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re: A few facts about Tre Morgan play at home
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:38 pm to deuceiswild
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:38 pm to deuceiswild
quote:Do y’all not watch the games? It was a hard it ball at 3B. It’s the exact scenario along with right back at the pitcher where you DONT go with no outs. Because you are asking to be thrown out at home.
Why is it a terrible decision with a left handed hitter? What are the odds the hitter sends a rocket right w5 you when you're on the third base line? It was the right call.
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Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:41 pm to ell_13
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It was a hard it ball at 3B.
Jay should have specified to freeze in that scenario but I don’t think he thought Beloso was physically capable of doing it.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:46 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Jay should have specified to freeze in that scenario but I don’t think he thought Beloso was physically capable of doing it.
Freezing doesn’t change anything. He would have still been out.
He wasn’t getting back to the bag after the 3B fielded the ball behind him.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:52 pm to ell_13
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Morgan said they were in a call to go on any ground ball. That’s so fricking stupid with no outs.
It's only stupid if you're playing against a stupid team with a stupid coach. Every WF infielder had it in his mind to turn two or get the sure out at first rather than throw home and take unnecessary risk.
And the includes the third baseman. It was just unfortunate for us that a left handed hit a laser down the third base line that was caught in such a way that the 3B only option was to throw it home and take his chances.
And they made a major league play. Tip your hat to them, and curse the baseball gods for allowing a lefty to hit a ball hard to that precise location.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:59 pm to ell_13
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Do y’all not watch the games? It was a hard it ball at 3B. It’s the exact scenario along with right back at the pitcher where you DONT go with no outs. Because you are asking to be thrown out at home.
Generally you'd be correct. But Had he froze and not gone, what would have been different? He'd have gotten tagged out at third or gotten himself into a rundown and you end up in the same place. The third baseman was not going to be able to throw to second, and I seriously doubt he'd have attempted a throw to first if Morgan had "froze". Morgan had no option but to go. Getting back to third was not an option.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:00 pm to deuceiswild
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curse the baseball gods for allowing a lefty to hit a ball hard to that precise location
And the same ump who chased Floyd ruling against us when on replay he PROBABLY got it wrong but there wasn’t indisputable evidence.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:02 pm to deuceiswild
Just about every comment on this thread is partially right. But here’s the bottom line.
It came down to one play. We sent Tre home from 3b with nobody out and runners on third and first on an infield hit. If you run the bases right- that’s bases loaded, no outs. They made the play, then got a double play and made us pay for it.
No reason to do that when you’re on 3b. You stay close to the bag and if it gets through- you score! Period!
That Tre did what was coached, didn’t slide correctly, etc is all true. No outs - not the right base running call.
It came down to one play. We sent Tre home from 3b with nobody out and runners on third and first on an infield hit. If you run the bases right- that’s bases loaded, no outs. They made the play, then got a double play and made us pay for it.
No reason to do that when you’re on 3b. You stay close to the bag and if it gets through- you score! Period!
That Tre did what was coached, didn’t slide correctly, etc is all true. No outs - not the right base running call.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:07 pm to LA007
Other than an error I don't see a situation where you end up with bases loaded and no outs with a hard hit ball hit at an infielder no matter how you run the bases.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:08 pm to Lester Earl
Didn’t need to go on contact with 0 outs and all the mo.
If he stays put you have runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out
If he stays put you have runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:09 pm to LA007
Damn impressive that you have 2 post in 13 years. & it about how a black screwed up on Juneteenth
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:11 pm to deuceiswild
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It's been confirmed that he was going on contact. As he should have been!
Lol you idiot
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:11 pm to sunnydaze
Consider every single possibility that could have happened from a viewpoint of having a left handed hitter at the plate.
Then ask yourself if you'd seriously have Morgan stand on the bag until contact is made with the ball.
Then ask yourself if you'd seriously have Morgan stand on the bag until contact is made with the ball.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:12 pm to deuceiswild
I do take back what I said about “freezing”.
When he saw it coming his way he should have dove back to 3rd immediately and forced a throw to 1st.
When he saw it coming his way he should have dove back to 3rd immediately and forced a throw to 1st.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:13 pm to deuceiswild
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Consider every single possibility that could have happened from a viewpoint of having a left handed hitter at the plate.
Then ask yourself if you'd seriously have Morgan stand on the bag until contact is made with the ball.
Exactly
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:16 pm to UnoMe
Wow. I don’t think Tre did screw up. He could’ve made a better slide to the outside, but I clearly took issue with the run on contact decision with no outs, runners on first and third. Only that because in 6 pages it hadn’t been mentioned. His bat kept us in the game. So, you misinterpreted pretty much everything I said.
And, I agree, it could have been one out, runners at 2d and 3rd if 3baseman just holds Tre and goes to first.
And, I agree, it could have been one out, runners at 2d and 3rd if 3baseman just holds Tre and goes to first.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:21 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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When he saw it coming his way he should have dove back to 3rd immediately and forced a throw to 1st.
I can agree with this. But I don't think it was a real option from Morgan's point of view. Sure, he may have been safe, but there's a very good chance the third baseman tags him as he's diving for the bag. I believe this is the reason Morgan hesitated.... he wanted to get back to third for a split second.
And I say that after just going back and rewatching it about a dozen times. From Morgan's point of view that was a real risk to dive back to third.
It was just a very unfortunate place to have the ball hit, and a major league play on their part.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:22 pm to ell_13
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Do y’all not watch the games? It was a hard it ball at 3B. It’s the exact scenario along with right back at the pitcher where you DONT go with no outs. Because you are asking to be thrown out at home.
He would have got tagged out if he went back to third base
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:24 pm to deuceiswild
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I can agree with this. But I don't think it was a real option from Morgan's point of view. Sure, he may have been safe, but there's a very good chance the third baseman tags him as he's diving for the bag. I believe this is the reason Morgan hesitated.... he wanted to get back to third for a split second.
I can promise you a ball hit to the 3rd basemen was the last thing Morgan was expecting. I’d bet it wasn’t even discussed with him by the 3B coach.
I can count on one hand the number of time Beloso has hit the ball to the left side of the shortstop this entire season, and still have fingers to spare.
They were probably much more concerned with the shot straight to the 1B.
This post was edited on 6/19/23 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:27 pm to sunnydaze
I agree one out and runners at 2d and 3rd would have been most likely scenario if Tre isn’t running on contact. Best case is 3baseman fools around with Tre and everyone is safe, bases loaded. Either would have been better.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 11:32 pm to RB10
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I can promise you a ball hit to the 3rd basemen was the last thing Morgan was expecting. I’d bet it wasn’t even discussed with him by the 3B coach.
I believe this as well. And for the reasons you stated. Aggressiveness will be inversely proportional to the risk. And I think being aggressive in that situation was the right call. It just happened to bite us. There's always some risk.
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