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re: Homebrewing Thread: Volume II

Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:34 pm to
Posted by Bleed P&G
New Orleans
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Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:34 pm to
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I thought it was pulling in CO2 from your breath?

It only does this as you blow to start the siphon. Once the siphon is going, it is then pulling in air. However, I would expect that there would be a layer of CO2 on top of the beer from fermenation that should blanket it from the air, but this is just a guess.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:34 pm to
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As the beer leaves the carboy the space if filled with air through the filter.


Ah, gotcha. It's too much of a pain in the dick to hook up a CO2 line to that. I'll continue to just use sterile siphon starter as i believe the degradation due to O2 is minimal if i make a good IPA.

I think most brewery practices are negligible during homebrewing (thanks to brulosophy). Granted, if i had an easier way of doing o2 free transfers, i'd jump on that in a hot minute.
This post was edited on 9/20/16 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Bleed P&G
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2003
2972 posts
Posted on 9/20/16 at 3:43 pm to
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i believe the degradation due to O2 is minimal

For me, a keg of IPA doesn't last long enough for me to worry about O2 effects.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:08 am to
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a keg of IPA doesn't last long enough


Like all o2 exposure this is really the key.

If you're kegging your IPA and drinking it within a week or two I'd be surprised if you notice a difference.

If you're handing out bottles or shipping to competitions then it can (not necessarily will) make a dramatic difference in the longevity of your beer.
Posted by Canuck Tiger
Member since Sep 2010
1726 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:07 am to
I have found that by the time an IPA has fully carbed and dropped clear (or as clear as it's going to get) in the keg that the overwhelmingly powerful juiciness of my initia dry/keg hop charge has mellowed.

I DO transfer from chronical to keg with co2, and I still notice a difference.

I suspect that this is partly due to using a 6-8oz keg hop in a sack and actually drinking hop particles in the haze for the first week.

It's not like the beers aren't still hoppy but they're at like 85% of hop saturation. If you're drinking a keg faster than me then you need to stop worrying about hop flavor and go get a liver enzymes screen done :)
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 12:17 pm to
Anyone ever re-hopped a keg? After the keg is carbonated, tried to add some hops and seal back up?
Posted by Bleed P&G
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:01 pm to
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Anyone ever re-hopped a keg? After the keg is carbonated, tried to add some hops and seal back up?

I have not, but I have considered buying one of these to remove and replace keg hops. I'm not sure how effective it will be, and at the price they sell for, it's not something that I want to buy and experiment with, but it might work.

Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16269 posts
Posted on 9/21/16 at 4:11 pm to
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Anyone ever re-hopped a keg? After the keg is carbonated, tried to add some hops and seal back up?


I have before, when a pale ale I made with El Dorado hops was rather underwhelming. Dropped a couple mesh tea balls filled with Citra into the keg. It was much better after that.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:05 am to
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I have before, when a pale ale I made with El Dorado hops was rather underwhelming. Dropped a couple mesh tea balls filled with Citra into the keg. It was much better after that.


Where do you get mesh tea balls from?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:09 am to
UPDATE on Cucumber Gose: So i kegged teh gose yesterday and force carbed. I added 1/2 lb of cucumber in the keg in a mesh bag.

Well, i was curious how the cucumber was going to come through, so i took a taster pull. Wow, this thing is terrific. Good acidity, and the cucumber is very noticeable. It almost reminds me of homemade pickles. I guess i never put 2 and 2 together that a sour cucumber is a pickle. But it is very good. I had to take another taster for additional research. It also has a beautiful color.

Also, previous to dry hopping the gose with 2 oz of citra, my ph was 3.25. After dry hopping it appeared to be 3.41 and tasted less tart as before. Does dry hopping raise ph in a gose? Flavor is still spot on, just curious if hops factor on ph, post fermentation/acidification.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27092 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:38 am to
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Does dry hopping raise ph


Yes.

quote:

Results showed that a mean pH increase of between pH 0.040 ± 0.003 and 0.056 ± 0.006 at a rate equivalent to 0.5 lb./bbl. of dry hops added. When adding dry hops equivalent to 3.0 lbs./bbl. there was a mean pH increase of pH 0.233 ± 0.022 and 0.332 ± 0.031. There was no significant correlation between the hop attributes analyzed and the increase in beer pH during dry hopping, and there was no significant correlation between the beer attributes analyzed and the increase in beer pH during dry hopping.


Source
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15944 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:48 am to
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Where do you get mesh tea balls from?



i bought a pack of 6 for $8 on Amazon a few weeks ago
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16269 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:55 am to
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Where do you get mesh tea balls from?


Got mine from Amazon. They are pretty cheap, and you can usually get 6 of them for less than $10. Each one holds almost exactly an ounce of pellet hops, in my experience.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52787 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 1:00 pm to
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i bought a pack of 6 for $8 on Amazon a few weeks ago


Mine will be in Tuesday.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16269 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 1:48 pm to
On a different note, it's good to see that Brew at the Zoo scaled the hours back. It's from 6:00 til 9:00 now instead of 10:00. That's a good thing IMO. That last hour just turned into a drunk fest, and it actually made the event less enjoyable.
Posted by LoneStarTiger
Lone Star State
Member since Aug 2004
15944 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 1:55 pm to
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Mine will be in Tuesday.


a word of advice... don't pack them full of pellets. only fill about halfway because the pellets will expand
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 2:03 pm to
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6:00 til 9:00 now instead of 10:00. That's a good thing IMO. That last hour just turned into a drunk fest, and it actually made the event less enjoyable.


completely agree...

We spent the last hour the past two years dealing with drunks who were slamming whatever we had on tap as fast as they could.

Hopefully the food vendor situation is better this year too. I know it's a beer event, but if you are going to tell people that beer and food are included in the price of admission, you really should have food available for most if not all of the event.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14692 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 2:06 pm to
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We spent the last hour the past two years dealing with drunks who were slamming whatever we had on tap as fast as they could.


Yep. Didn't notice the change at first but glad to see it this year.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16269 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 2:26 pm to
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We spent the last hour the past two years dealing with drunks who were slamming whatever we had on tap as fast as they could.


Same at our setup. s14 and I were pouring for these 2 completely wasted guys last year that could barely stand up.

quote:

Hopefully the food vendor situation is better this year too. I know it's a beer event, but if you are going to tell people that beer and food are included in the price of admission, you really should have food available for most if not all of the event.


From the Brew at the Zoo website:

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Our past two Brew at the Zoo's were WILD times, and we want to say thanks to not only all who came, but all who provided us with their feedback afterward!

One thing we're changing this year is providing MORE FOOD! We know this has been the battle cry of many of our guests. So what are we going to do about it? While we will continue to offer food tasting from local restaurants on a first-come, first-serve basis, we're also working to bring in a few stations that will be located throughout the event with FULL portions of food to help satisfy that post-work hunger.
Posted by LSUGrad00
Member since Dec 2003
2428 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 3:09 pm to
That's awesome..

The group that runs that event has been one of the most responsive to suggestions I've dealt with.
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