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re: Houston-The culinary and cultural center of the south
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:05 pm to TheIndulger
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:05 pm to TheIndulger
Cultural: No, the number of tourists visiting Houston, smiling as they step off of the airplane at George Bush, saying "wow, I can't believe I'm finally in Houston" is pretty low and probably limited to NASA fanatics.
These NASA fanatics will discover Houston pretty quick, as Houston went to the Baton Rouge School of Urban Planning, and therefore looked at its main internationally known entity and placed the largest airport in the area an hour and a half away from it (at least).
Culture implies history, and realistically Houston is too "new" and too imported to have much of if.
I've seen Cajun and Creole restaurants (in varying, and mostly disappointing, qualities) in many cities in the US. I've found Louisiana hot sauce in a basement grocery store in Beijing. I haven't even seen a "Houston" style restaurant in Houston.
Culture also implies some level of uniqueness. What is one thing that Houston does better than any other place in the world? Houston may have the best Vietnamese food in the south, but is it better than the Vietnamese food in Vietnam? Is there anyone in Germany right now planning on a trip to Houston to experience their great imitations of some other regions specialties?
Houston is the great imitator, maybe the best in the US. But it is the cultural Capitol of nothing.
These NASA fanatics will discover Houston pretty quick, as Houston went to the Baton Rouge School of Urban Planning, and therefore looked at its main internationally known entity and placed the largest airport in the area an hour and a half away from it (at least).
Culture implies history, and realistically Houston is too "new" and too imported to have much of if.
I've seen Cajun and Creole restaurants (in varying, and mostly disappointing, qualities) in many cities in the US. I've found Louisiana hot sauce in a basement grocery store in Beijing. I haven't even seen a "Houston" style restaurant in Houston.
Culture also implies some level of uniqueness. What is one thing that Houston does better than any other place in the world? Houston may have the best Vietnamese food in the south, but is it better than the Vietnamese food in Vietnam? Is there anyone in Germany right now planning on a trip to Houston to experience their great imitations of some other regions specialties?
Houston is the great imitator, maybe the best in the US. But it is the cultural Capitol of nothing.
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:09 pm to BRIllini07
BOOM
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:09 pm to BRIllini07
Houston and Dallas constantly try to one up each other but I can't fathom one being demonstrably better in many areas over the other.
I am from the South and have lived in Texas 20 years and TX isn't southern.
As for food there is a difference between the down home comfort food in the two places. Any big city has people from all over with the different cuisines but I am talking about the basic country food like BBQ, chicken fried steak, grits, greens, okra, all of it.
I am from the South and have lived in Texas 20 years and TX isn't southern.
As for food there is a difference between the down home comfort food in the two places. Any big city has people from all over with the different cuisines but I am talking about the basic country food like BBQ, chicken fried steak, grits, greens, okra, all of it.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:14 pm to BRIllini07
some people consider Ballet, Opera, Symphony, Art, Culture,, Houston and NYC are the only American to have each NOLA doesn't come close
Some consider Major league sports to be Culture, Houston has that NOLA does not
Others consider a vast array of different ethnic groups, citizens from multiple countries a wide variety f religion to be a part of a rich cultural tapestry Houston the most diverse of American cities
and there are those that think institutes of Higher learning are vital to a communities cultural strength
Rice, UH, St Thomas, UT Med Center, Baylor College of Medicine are all better schools than anything NOLA has to offer,, maybe Tulane is better than TSU
maybe
history implies history
Culture implies Culture
stupid is as stupid posts
Some consider Major league sports to be Culture, Houston has that NOLA does not
Others consider a vast array of different ethnic groups, citizens from multiple countries a wide variety f religion to be a part of a rich cultural tapestry Houston the most diverse of American cities
and there are those that think institutes of Higher learning are vital to a communities cultural strength
Rice, UH, St Thomas, UT Med Center, Baylor College of Medicine are all better schools than anything NOLA has to offer,, maybe Tulane is better than TSU
maybe
history implies history
Culture implies Culture
stupid is as stupid posts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:15 pm to gthog61
Anyone who has spent significant time in Houston, the South, and the Southwest, must be laughing their asses off at the people claiming Houston isn't southern, like I am.
It's not redneck Bama or Mississippi southern, thankfully, but southern nonetheless. Certainly nowhere near West Texas, NM, or AZ. How absurd.
It's not redneck Bama or Mississippi southern, thankfully, but southern nonetheless. Certainly nowhere near West Texas, NM, or AZ. How absurd.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:22 pm to GRTiger
quote:mehhhhh,,, Houston is Southern although not as southern as Memphis, Atlanta or NOLA
It's not redneck Bama or Mississippi southern, thankfully, but southern nonetheless. Certainly nowhere near West Texas, NM, or AZ. How absurd.
its Western-ish ( Rodeo) but nothing like LA, or Phoenix, even El Paso
its in a sense a crossroad City , a mix of DARE I SAY IT different "cultures" that make Houston unlike other cities and very tough to compare to anywhere else
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:22 pm to BRIllini07
How does that expression go, as an individual you are a collection of your experiences, or in this case the cumulative portfolio of your restaurants.
The hard thing for many people about Houston food is you can't point your finger and say that is Houston cuisine, we are diverse international city and the flavors combine to make a far tastier collective dish than what New Orleans has to offer.
The hard thing for many people about Houston food is you can't point your finger and say that is Houston cuisine, we are diverse international city and the flavors combine to make a far tastier collective dish than what New Orleans has to offer.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:27 pm to WG_Dawg
I love how you're always jumping into threads to give shitty opinions about New Orleans or other cites when you obviously have never been.
As for this thread, I'm not a restaurant connoisseur but I know enough to realize that Houston is one of the most highly rated international cuisines in America. It also has a bit more culture than people realize. In the loop is pretty underrated for yuppies and it's a solid setup for a lot of people. Only complaint from me is lack of outdoors stuff available.
As for this thread, I'm not a restaurant connoisseur but I know enough to realize that Houston is one of the most highly rated international cuisines in America. It also has a bit more culture than people realize. In the loop is pretty underrated for yuppies and it's a solid setup for a lot of people. Only complaint from me is lack of outdoors stuff available.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:27 pm to WG_Dawg
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This post was edited on 4/11/16 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:28 pm to Larry Gooseman
Tex-Mex is Houston , invented here and in SA but perfected and expanded here
And Ninfas invented the Nacho's and that should count for somthing
And Ninfas invented the Nacho's and that should count for somthing
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:31 pm to OWLFAN86
It is on the southern side of whatever cutoff there is. You're right, the culture is a blend, but on the aggregate, in everyday life, it's much more like Atlanta or bigger NC cities than Phoenix, El Pass, etc.
It's a unique type of Southern, but then again, so is Nola. It's what makes both great, imo.
It's a unique type of Southern, but then again, so is Nola. It's what makes both great, imo.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:33 pm to GRTiger
quote:agree 99%
It is on the southern side of whatever cutoff there is. You're right, the culture is a blend, but on the aggregate, in everyday life, it's much more like Atlanta or bigger NC cities than Phoenix, El Pass, etc.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:42 pm to cjared036
quote:
Bernadines
Just had dinner here. Holy frick. Great meal.
Poscol
Peska
Foreign Correspondents
The Original Ninfas on Navigation
The Queen Vic
Pondicheri
Uchi
Ka
El Tiempo
Dolce Vita
Teotihuacan
Indika
Hyunh
Max and Julie's
Cafe Rabelais
Black and White
Liberty Kitchen
And then you've got breakfast/brunch at Kraftsmen Bakery, Baby Barnaby's, Tiny Boxwoods...
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:48 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
Tex-Mex is Houston , invented here
Nope.
quote:
The cuisine grew out of the Rio Grande Valley but came into its own in San Antonio. “In the 1870s, chili queens in San Antonio started becoming nationally and internationally famous. That’s when Tex-Mex started getting on the map of Americans in earnest.
quote:
And Ninfas invented the Nacho's
Are you reciting from their corporate marketing brochure? Ninfas didnt invest nachos. They were invented in Mexico near Eagle Pass.
quote:
Nachos originated in the city of Piedras Negras, Coahuila, Mexico, just over the border from Eagle Pass, Texas.[3][4][5] In 1943, the wives of U.S. soldiers stationed at Fort Duncan in nearby Eagle Pass were in Piedras Negras on a shopping trip, and arrived at the restaurant after it had already closed for the day. The maître d'hôtel, Ignacio "Nacho" Anaya, invented a new snack for them with what little he had available in the kitchen: tortillas and cheese. Anaya cut the tortillas into triangles, fried them, added shredded cheddar cheese, quickly heated them, added sliced pickled jalapeño peppers,[Note 1] and served them. When asked what the dish was called, he answered, "Nacho's especiales". As word of the dish traveled, the apostrophe was lost, and Nacho's "specials" became "special nachos".[6]
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:50 pm to Zappas Stache
Facts are not welcome around these parts
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:51 pm to Zappas Stache
I could type some shite and post it on a website
doesn't make it fact
tex mex as a culinary discipline happened in Houston,, we had the $$ , the customers, multiple restaurants to make it become big time
doesn't make it fact
tex mex as a culinary discipline happened in Houston,, we had the $$ , the customers, multiple restaurants to make it become big time
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:53 pm to Zappas Stache
Ninfa's purportedly popularized fajitas. I think that's what he meant.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:54 pm to Lou Pai
quote:sure lets go with that
Ninfa's purportedly popularized fajitas. I think that's what he meant.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:54 pm to TheIndulger
Houston- The Carpetbagger Capital of the South
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:58 pm to ManBearTiger
quote:but but Houston isn't in the south
Houston- The Carpetbagger Capital of the South
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