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re: Houston-The culinary and cultural center of the south

Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:54 am to
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:54 am to
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well the argument here was about dining not how great each city is in every socioeconomic metric.


Try to keep up

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My original statement was that NO is a shitty place with shitty people and is mainly a destination for people to get drunk and party. I'm not sure it matters that I don't know what kind of spices are in New-Orleans-specific gumbo. What you have alluded to is that the city itself wants to create a perception of a year-round party to attract party-goers. Which leads back to my original point.


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This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 11:58 am
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:57 am to
If you mention any city even on the same page as Nola, the site flips it's shite. Houston is a cool city and has a lot to offer.


It just still isn't southern.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38671 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Nashville is also a city vastly undergoing changes and reformation. Personally, t is the anti-Detroit. I have never seen anything quite like it (in a positive sense).

We've worked down here for about 15 years now and it is night and day difference. 15 years ago, you didn't go to Broadway. 21st Ave was "the hip place to be".The Gulch didn't exist. The Convention Center didn't exist. 12 South was a restaurant or two. East Nashville and Germantown were crime ridden hell holes. Now they are thriving and it appears to be just the start. It'll be interesting to see it another 10 or 15 years from now.


That describes many southwest cities including Houston, Dallas and Austin. Even San Francisco is changing rapidly and areas that were once no man lands are now hip hoods. Oakland especially is seeing neighborhoods gentrify because of the high cost of living in SF.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:11 pm to
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What is Houston really doing unique? Cutting edge? Revolutionary? What chefs are there?


Ever hear of the James Beard Award?

I'll just leave this here...

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Chris Shepherd of Underbelly won Best Chef Southwest in 2014


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and Tyson Cole of Uchi won in 2011


2016 noms:

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Best New Restaurant
Helen Greek Food & Wine

Outstanding Bar Program
Anvil Bar & Refuge

Outstanding Restaurateur
Tracy Vaught, Houston (Hugo's, Caracol, Backstreet Café)

Outstanding Service
The Pass

Best Chef: Southwest
Manabu Horiuchi, Kata Robata
Hugo Ortega, Caracol
Seth Siegel-Gardner & Terrence Gallivan, The Pass
Justin Yu, Oxheart


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This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38671 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:23 pm to
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and Tyson Cole of Uchi won in 2011


So Houston takes credit for Uchi?
Posted by Early Cuyler
Member since Jan 2009
4291 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:25 pm to
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Ever hear of the James Beard Award?

I'll just leave this here...

Chris Shepherd of Underbelly won Best Chef Southwest in 2014 quote: and Tyson Cole of Uchi won in 2011


I'll just leave this here:
2016
Outstanding Chef: Donald Link, Herbsaint

Best New Restaurant: Shaya

Outstanding Bar Program: Arnaud's French 75 Bar; Cure

Outstanding Pastry Chef: Kelly Fields, Willa Jean

Outstanding Restaurateur: JoAnn Clevenger, Upperline

Outstanding Service: Brigtsen's; Restaurant August

Outstanding Wine Program: Commander's Palace

Best Chef South: Justin Devillier, La Petite Grocery; Michael Gulotta, MoPho; Slade Rushing, Brennan's; Michael Stoltzfus, Coquette; Isaac Toups, Toups' Meatery

2015

Alon Shaya, Domenica, Pizza Domenica, Shaya - Best Chef: South

2014

Hansen's Sno-Bliz – America's Classic

Pêche Seafood Grill – Best New Restaurant

Sue Zemanick, Gautreau's – Best Chef: South (tie)

Ryan Prewitt, Peche Seafood Grill – Best Chef: South (tie)


2013

Tory McPhail, Commander's Palace – Best Chef: South

Emeril Lagasse – Humanitarian of the Year

2011

Stephen Stryjewski, Cochon – Best Chef: South

2009

Ella Brennan, Commander's Palace – Lifetime Achievement Award

2007

Donald Link, Herbsaint – Best Chef: South

2006

John Besh, Restaurant August - Best Chef: South

New Orleans Restaurant Community - Humanitarian of the Year

2005

Galatoire's – Outstanding Restaurant

Willie Mae's Scotch House – America's Classic

2002

Anne Kearney, Peristyle – Best Chef: Southeast

1999

Jamie Shannon, Commander's Palace – Best Chef: Southeast

Mosca's – America's Classic

1998

Frank Brigtsen, Brigtsen's – Best Chef: Southeast

1996

Commander's Palace – Outstanding Restaurant

1993

Commander's Palace – Outstanding Service

Susan Spicer, Bayona – Best Chef: Southeast

1991

Emeril Lagasse, Emeril's – Best Chef: Southeast
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36407 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:37 pm to
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If you mention any city even on the same page as Nola, the site flips it's shite. Houston is a cool city and has a lot to offer.


In case you missed it there are quite a few delusional Houston homers here. Like the clown who said Houston has the best restaurants in the entire country. I shouldn't even have to elaborate but NYC is unequivocally the best food city in the country.
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
3841 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Ever hear of the James Beard Award?


Yeah. It's being hosted at the Lyric Opera of Chicago. Also, see my original post of:

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Grant Atchaz's Alinea, The Aviary?
Tony Mantuano's Spiaggia, Terezo Piano, Bar Toma?
Takashi Yagiashi's Snapping Turtle?
Stephanie Izard's Girl and Goat?
Arun Sampanthavivat's Arun's Thai?
Dave Beran's Next?
Paul Kahan's Dove's Luncheonette, Big Star, Nico Osteria, The Publican?
Carrie Nahabedian's Nadha and Brindlle?
Jean Jeho's Everest?
Gale Gand and Rick Tramoto's TRU?
Jimmy Banno's Purple Pig?
Rick Bayless Frontera Grill, Xoco, and Topolobampo?


Chicago has a ton of winners. Houston...not so much.

Ironically, it's Houston that is "all hat, no cattle."
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8239 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:57 pm to
Houston has some awesome food, especially on the ethnic side, but LOL at the James Beard argument.
Posted by Haydo
DTX
Member since Jul 2011
2942 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:01 pm to
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Houston has some awesome food, especially on the ethnic side, but LOL at the James Beard argument.


Just a response to the question of what houston is doing unique, who notable chefs are, etc.

I'm not one of the asshats on here trying to compare to NYC
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:09 pm to
Oh yeah Austin has grown incredibly in the past 10 years and it is not slowing down.

A lot of good tech jobs coming there and they also have benefitted greatly from the shale boom.

I'm note sure of your angle on aesthetics. Austin area is very pretty. rolling hills and lakes. Westlake for example.

Your right on the Outdoor Hub, but I think you are selling short the lakes and state parks in the area. tons to do.
Posted by offshoreangler
713, Texas
Member since Jun 2008
22314 posts
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:21 pm to
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Texican/Bar B Q...? Yes it does... Food in general... Not even close...




I was referring to the quality/variety of ethnic restaurants in this city compared to New Oleans.


Context clues....use them cocksucker.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 1:24 pm
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