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re: Sooooo, .....TSA found a loaded revolver in my carry-on this morning.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:03 am to loopback
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:03 am to loopback
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I understand that you can't take it on an airplane and I support that, but for fricks sake people make a mistake sometimes. Particularly when they CC or are avid gun enthusiasts. They should not be FINED for absent mindedly leaving a gun (thier personal property) inside a bag (also thier personal property)
I think the ever-increasing number of CC'ers in this country will start making this a more common occurance. It will become quite the money-grab for the ole gubment.
But I completely agree with you. If you have a sparkling record and a permit, I think the fine is a bit ridiculous to be exercising a constitutional right.
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:04 am to dat yat
Almost made a similar mistake going on a hunting trip. I was wearing my hunting coat so I didn't have to pack it and I was waiting for a couple of folks to show up at check in and for some reason I reached into an inside pocket and I had about 13 .22 bullets in there. Needless to say they got dumped in the mens restroom at Hobby in Houston.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:25 am to dawg23
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As was noted, he probably won't get away "unscathed."
I meant unscathed in the immediate sense, specifically a trip to the crossbar hotel.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:28 am to dat yat
Contrast this with the Deputy Dawg dude at the Ouachita Parish courthouse as I emptied my pockets before going thru the scanner to find I had my little 2" pocket knife.
I had observed before, when this happened, usually the officers just let the folks in, but put the knife in a basket and held it until the person came back thru.
Most are polite.
Barney Fife (Deputy Dawg, aforementioned), goes into a spiel about if you want to keep your knife don't try to sneak it in. Having learned you can't win against anyone burdened with such self importance, I just nodded and went in.
It was hard to take the lecture again when I came back 15 minutes later and left with the knife.
They seem to be expecting a major attack at the courthouse, because there are at least 2 officers there most times I have been thru.
I didn't get that much grief when, going thru the check point in Jackson Airport, I emptied my pockets to find a knife. The officer was cool: he handed it back to me and said I had plenty of time to go put it in my vehicle.
I had observed before, when this happened, usually the officers just let the folks in, but put the knife in a basket and held it until the person came back thru.
Most are polite.
Barney Fife (Deputy Dawg, aforementioned), goes into a spiel about if you want to keep your knife don't try to sneak it in. Having learned you can't win against anyone burdened with such self importance, I just nodded and went in.
It was hard to take the lecture again when I came back 15 minutes later and left with the knife.
They seem to be expecting a major attack at the courthouse, because there are at least 2 officers there most times I have been thru.
I didn't get that much grief when, going thru the check point in Jackson Airport, I emptied my pockets to find a knife. The officer was cool: he handed it back to me and said I had plenty of time to go put it in my vehicle.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:32 am to dat yat
A coworker of mine who travels often was caught last fall with a bread-knife in his laptop bag. He had brought the knife to work for a soup bowl potluck at the office a few days earlier and had meant to take it out when he got home but forgot.
Bottom line though, he was taken to "the room" and interrogated for quite some time and later released. He was prosecuted (not certain if federal or local) and had to hire a lawyer, appear in court, pay court fees and a fine, and now has a "record". Very costly mistake.
As someone mentioned, when you travel often, these kinds of innocent mistakes can and do happen because traveling itself becomes a mundane routine.
Bottom line though, he was taken to "the room" and interrogated for quite some time and later released. He was prosecuted (not certain if federal or local) and had to hire a lawyer, appear in court, pay court fees and a fine, and now has a "record". Very costly mistake.
As someone mentioned, when you travel often, these kinds of innocent mistakes can and do happen because traveling itself becomes a mundane routine.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 10:37 am to LSUCouyon
There are a lot of different personalities and maturity levels in law enforcement or any other profession. These particular guys were all about my age. In fact the JP officer had trouble reading the serial number off the revolver. I offered to loan him my reading glasses, he chuckled, but then took me up on it. 
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:02 am to Hammertime
quote:So your answer to making a mistake would be mad at the one that found it?
If I was a fricking terrorist, do you honestly think I'd try to sneak a gun on a plane with me?
I would be sweating buckshot and apologizing for being a dumbass...no offense to the OP.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:12 am to dat yat
Suddenly I feel a lot better about what happened to me last month.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:29 am to Alahunter
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Glad you weren't in NY or one of those states when this went down.
True dat. I recentl flew for the first time in about 18 years. Security check at New Orleans took about 30 seconds. I thought, "Well this isn't so bad. I guess people just exaggerate the whole TSA thing." Then we got to LAX for the flight home. Took about 45 minutes to go through the whole TSA process, and they did practically everything shy of a colonoscopy. I would feel very fortunate getting a free pass for a loaded gun. Definitely not the time to cop an attitude. My contriteness in that situation would be nothing short of offering a bj from my wife.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:36 am to Judge Smails
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I meant unscathed in the immediate sense, specifically a trip to the crossbar hotel.
I understand. And I agree that a stay at that particular hotel would likely be pretty scathing.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 11:39 am to 911Moto
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BJ from my wife.
You must have an awesome wife; both of mine would have let me go to jail.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:28 pm to dawg23
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pretty scathing
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Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:47 pm to Judge Smails
I've never understood how people don't know where their firearms are or forget they are in a bag etc. I'm not trying to bash the op bc I hear it all the time but I just don't see how that happens personally.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 12:55 pm to dat yat
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ou must have an awesome wife; both of mine would have let me go to jail
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I've never understood how people don't know where their firearms are or forget they are in a bag etc. I'm not trying to bash the op bc I hear it all the time but I just don't see how that happens personally
I use to think this too until I started carrying various handguns with me. Do it quite often now, though I will not get on a plane now without a check off of each one. Man they are handing out hefty finders fees for those things.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 1:38 pm to dat yat
dat yat,
Sorry to hear of your troubles, but glad you've not had any severe consequences.......thus far. I made a similar mistake a few years ago. I took my son and some friends on a ground squirrel hunting trip. We flew from Shreveport to Reno, NV. Trip there went fine. On the way home, I decided to move some items from a check on bag to carry on bag as I was afraid my check on was close to the weight limit. Into my carry on I put a bag I use to store some gunsmithing tools. Unfortunately, I forgot there were a small fixed blade knife w/ the gunsmithing tools. The TSA at Reno found the knife. The lady was very nice and professional. She told me if I wanted to keep the knife, I could mail it home at a nearby kiosk (was going to cost $15 for a $10 knife) or go back to the ticket counter and have it put in my luggage. When I got to the ticket counter, the luggage had already been put on the plane. The ticket agent gave me a small box, I taped the knife to the inside of the box and she had the box placed on the plane. Felt kinda weird claiming the small box when it came off the luggage at Shreveport.
Sorry to hear of your troubles, but glad you've not had any severe consequences.......thus far. I made a similar mistake a few years ago. I took my son and some friends on a ground squirrel hunting trip. We flew from Shreveport to Reno, NV. Trip there went fine. On the way home, I decided to move some items from a check on bag to carry on bag as I was afraid my check on was close to the weight limit. Into my carry on I put a bag I use to store some gunsmithing tools. Unfortunately, I forgot there were a small fixed blade knife w/ the gunsmithing tools. The TSA at Reno found the knife. The lady was very nice and professional. She told me if I wanted to keep the knife, I could mail it home at a nearby kiosk (was going to cost $15 for a $10 knife) or go back to the ticket counter and have it put in my luggage. When I got to the ticket counter, the luggage had already been put on the plane. The ticket agent gave me a small box, I taped the knife to the inside of the box and she had the box placed on the plane. Felt kinda weird claiming the small box when it came off the luggage at Shreveport.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:21 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
It happens.
I read a stat yesterday that TSA finds roughly 2 guns a day, mostly in the south and western states. I bet they find a lot more knives and other items.
I read a stat yesterday that TSA finds roughly 2 guns a day, mostly in the south and western states. I bet they find a lot more knives and other items.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 2:45 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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took my son and some friends on a ground squirrel hunting trip
I had to read this no less than 4 times. Would not compute.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 3:09 pm to Langston
I have left a number of lethermen/sog tools around Canada – need them for fieldwork – forget they are in a backpack etc. The CDN version of TSA find said item – I make a donation of the leathermen/SOG tool to the screeners – they should be pretty well equipped now. Its not even a secondary search/inspection just you cant have it on the plane – it either goes to TSA or you go back out thru security. Now the mining industry and explosive residue have a little more splainin to do when they don’t pass the chromotograph wipe down test ……. They get a secondary search – but its very common for the mining industry to have explosive residue on them.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 5:20 pm to dat yat
I used to be paranoid about this (still sort of am) because I would bring gun stuff in my briefcase to go to the range by my office with my bosses. Didn't like the idea of bringing a range bag to work and definitely won't leave it in my car.
Now I have a dedicated briefcase that isn't for flying. I also check pretty thoroughly before trips, although I only travel about once a month.
Now I have a dedicated briefcase that isn't for flying. I also check pretty thoroughly before trips, although I only travel about once a month.
Posted on 4/16/14 at 5:41 pm to mikeytig
That happened to a friend of mine pre 9-11. Lucky you had reasonable TSA agents, in California or New York you will still be there
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