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re: Newman basketball hit with Recruiting violations
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:40 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Is there anything catholics won't cheat at?
Someone clearly knows nothing about Newman.
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:48 pm to ned nederlander
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Perhaps I’m in the minority here, but who honestly cares. If a highschool wants to put athletics on pedestal to the point they are plugging in recruits, that’s a decision a school can make.
In theory I completely agree. And if enough others agree, they can vote to change the rules. Until then, these are the rules that the LHSAA governs by, and if you break them, there are consequences, like forfeiting games and suspending coaches.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:58 pm to AtlantaLSUfan
Newman didn’t. Randy and his ego did though.
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:59 pm to TheRouxGuru
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Newman is mostly Jewish homeboy
Only the ones that pay
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:01 pm to choupiquesushi
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Actually I am hearing the school did not have much knowledge of what was going on with basketball.
So lack of institutional control is their defense?!?!
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:04 pm to chalmetteowl
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It’s a talking point. Do LHSAA rules and Louisiana culture impede the development of “national” high school athletic programs? Is it hurting our kids in comparison to other states? It seems like most of the “national” programs popping up in LA have been dinged one way or another
I’m not against national programs, but they should not be competing for LHSAA championships.
Or the LHSAA can start an “open” division where recruiting, immediate transfers, etc is allowed
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 12/19/23 at 10:53 pm to LSUFanHouston
No conniving supporters operating outside of the schools control
Posted on 12/19/23 at 11:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Or the LHSAA can start an “open” division where recruiting, immediate transfers, etc is allowed
I’m in favor of this common sense approach. Cut and paste from the CIF.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 12:28 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:What? You mean you don’t think Timmy Byrd should be allowed to win class B state title games by 80 with 8 division 1 players on his roster when his opponent is some farm school with a total enrollment of 35 kids?
I’m not against national programs, but they should not be competing for LHSAA championships.
Shame on you.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:25 am to choupiquesushi
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No conniving supporters operating outside of the schools control
Well shite
Posted on 12/20/23 at 7:29 am to chalmetteowl
Impossible that the school “didn’t know”. Administration knows what goes on at their school, they just chose to turn a blind eye. They deserve everything they get and if the LHSAA digs deep enough there’s other sports not playing by the rules also.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:32 am to Bayouboogaloocrew
It's very possible. Considering the following and I am by no means saying this is what Newman did - but it is what another school did...
1.If a parent pays there tuition and the money was given to them by someone else or the actually qualified for financial aid through the proper channels - all good.
2. If a parent turns in proper paper work noting where they live - schools are not required to go to the home and determine who lives there or owns the property or that it's even a house.
3. any thing that happens on a summer league or non school team - is not the schools business.
BTW this has happened at both public and private schools. Much easier to pull off in hoops because it takes fewer kids.
The reference to tim byrd but a public school in the 90s had a parent do some outlandish stuff(all legal) to make it to the schools only 2 finals.
From what I understand upon learning some things the school went to the LHSAA right away. I wish the LHSAA would go back to publicly reporting details of violations.
1.If a parent pays there tuition and the money was given to them by someone else or the actually qualified for financial aid through the proper channels - all good.
2. If a parent turns in proper paper work noting where they live - schools are not required to go to the home and determine who lives there or owns the property or that it's even a house.
3. any thing that happens on a summer league or non school team - is not the schools business.
BTW this has happened at both public and private schools. Much easier to pull off in hoops because it takes fewer kids.
The reference to tim byrd but a public school in the 90s had a parent do some outlandish stuff(all legal) to make it to the schools only 2 finals.
From what I understand upon learning some things the school went to the LHSAA right away. I wish the LHSAA would go back to publicly reporting details of violations.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 8:49 am to choupiquesushi
Come on man…you’re a smart guy. Do you really believe the administration at Newman had no clue the basketball team was up to shady shite. No way anyone can ever make me believe that. High quality school officials are all over EVERYTHING that is going on at their schools.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:05 am to Bayouboogaloocrew
You'd be surprised at how easy schools or school systems can be fooled. I am going by what people associated with the school and people with schools that picked up transfers and they are pretty much putting this all on 3-4 people.
The tell tale will be is if there is turnover in the athletic administration which is what happens any time significant LHSAA sanctions are handed out. Now if any athletic admin folks leave there for better jobs - that also paints a picture.
Unlike the paper work lapses that affected some recent noteworthy sanctions that's all on the school.
The window to this got opened wide with the "hazing"
I'll see someone high on their totem pole at an event this week - I'm curious to what he'll have to say.
The tell tale will be is if there is turnover in the athletic administration which is what happens any time significant LHSAA sanctions are handed out. Now if any athletic admin folks leave there for better jobs - that also paints a picture.
Unlike the paper work lapses that affected some recent noteworthy sanctions that's all on the school.
The window to this got opened wide with the "hazing"
I'll see someone high on their totem pole at an event this week - I'm curious to what he'll have to say.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:48 am to GynoSandberg
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Paying players cash at tournaments
I’m assuming we’re not talking about meal money?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 9:57 am to choupiquesushi
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I wish the LHSAA would go back to publicly reporting details of violations.
Can Newman release the report if they choose ? or is that prohibited by the LHSAA ?
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:05 am to yaherrdme
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Can Newman release the report if they choose ? or is that prohibited by the LHSAA ?
Schools can release whatever they want. LHSAA doesn’t do it to protect the schools privacy.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:05 am to choupiquesushi
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The window to this got opened wide with the "hazing"
What??
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:13 am to whodat77
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Schools can release whatever they want. LHSAA doesn’t do it to protect the schools privacy.
And when they did release them students’ names were redacted… that was acceptable
This post was edited on 12/20/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 12/20/23 at 10:21 am to whodat77
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Schools can release whatever they want.
If players are named I think FERPA comes into play. May have to be careful what they release. Not sure how those LHSAA investigative reports read.
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