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re: Newman basketball hit with Recruiting violations

Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:22 pm to
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:22 pm to
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And I don’t think they were recruited. I think there was an appeal and visibility to playing with Arch that ED white or whereever didn’t offer. the football team may have outliers like AJ Johnson but in general is just a well coached operation. The basketball thing is a joke on the other hand and should be fun to watch unravel.


Doesn’t matter if they were recruited to the extent Randy recruits. They switched schools for athletics and didn’t sit out a year. That’s illegal. Maybe not AS illegal as what basketball is doing, but illegal is illegal.

And yes, football is well coached and they work with current students unlike basketball who pushed their current students to the side for Randy’s recruits. But they have plenty of “outliers” like AJ. Or even kids like Kai Donaldson who were recruited by Randy but still played football.
Bottom line, recruiting is recruiting, illegal players are illegal players. Defending football by saying they only have a few illegal players is what’s wrong with the system.
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
9483 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 2:54 pm to
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Newman
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catholics
Um, wut?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8313 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 3:02 pm to
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Is there anything catholics won't cheat at?


Newman is mostly Jewish homeboy


Try again
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/19/23 at 3:44 pm to
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And yes, football is well coached and they work with current students unlike basketball who pushed their current students to the side for Randy’s recruits. But they have plenty of “outliers” like AJ. Or even kids like Kai Donaldson who were recruited by Randy but still played football. Bottom line, recruiting is recruiting, illegal players are illegal players. Defending football by saying they only have a few illegal players is what’s wrong with the system.


I’m not defending them, i think it’s laughable how much the school sold their soul to sponsor a corrupt AAU team. But the football team isn’t close to comparable to the basketball racket. But while we’re on football, the AJ Johnson thing was a bad look and backfired spectacularly.
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
7961 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 4:35 pm to
Private schools can’t recruit?
Posted by NS Tide
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2018
122 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 4:35 pm to
Actually saw Randy in MSY this morning. Guess he now has some time in his hands and was getting away for a bit
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30649 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 4:53 pm to
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I’m not defending them, i think it’s laughable how much the school sold their soul to sponsor a corrupt AAU team.
Actually I am hearing the school did not have much knowledge of what was going on with basketball.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30649 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 4:55 pm to
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didn’t go after CHS that all fell into his slap while investigating another school - but u already probably knew that

Yeah, I know. I’m just saying it was a part of it. It was in chs best interest to just accept and move on. I think it’s worked out and no one even cares any more about it.



actually for Bonine it was horrible timing because he had spent two years cultivating groups of 4a and 5a principals to vote to get back together - The brother martin forfeits and the CHS situation may have garnered just enough support for the vote to fail
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30649 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 4:57 pm to
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So are the Bordelon brothers, who still live in Thibodeaux.
Once they established residency in Newman's district(which they did and stayed for the proper amount of time - WHICH they did - they are then legal regardless of where they live after that.
Posted by Federal Tiger
Connecticut
Member since Dec 2007
7938 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:22 pm to
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Actually I am hearing the school did not have much knowledge of what was going on with basketball.


Great defense. I have no idea who those kids are or where they came from. May work with the LHSAA.
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 5:41 pm to
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I’m not defending them, i think it’s laughable how much the school sold their soul to sponsor a corrupt AAU team. But the football team isn’t close to comparable to the basketball racket. But while we’re on football, the AJ Johnson thing was a bad look and backfired spectacularly.


Agree. And yes, the AJ situation was absurd. They were looking to become The Blind Side 2, and ended up housing a criminal.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47675 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 6:04 pm to
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think it’s laughable how much the school sold their soul to sponsor a corrupt AAU team


I knew something was up when Josh Preston was there every game taking pics and video from different states
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 8:39 pm
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 8:00 pm to
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Once they established residency in Newman's district(which they did and stayed for the proper amount of time - WHICH they did - they are then legal regardless of where they live after that.


Correct. Now they are eligible. Point is they weren’t eligible their first year and Newman should have required them to sit out as the rules require but they didn’t.
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
Member since Jan 2008
107744 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 8:03 pm to
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Actually I am hearing the school did not have much knowledge of what was going on with basketball.


Then they didn't want to know. Worst kept secret in New Orleans.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23109 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 8:31 pm to
Why the heck does Newman care so much about basketball? Play with your actual students, not with kids from AAU.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47675 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Play with your actual students, not with kids from AAU.


But then how would they possibly get Bronny’s Sierra Canyon team to play down here?

It’s a talking point. Do LHSAA rules and Louisiana culture impede the development of “national” high school athletic programs? Is it hurting our kids in comparison to other states? It seems like most of the “national” programs popping up in LA have been dinged one way or another
This post was edited on 12/19/23 at 8:48 pm
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4281 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 8:44 pm to
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Doesn’t matter if they were recruited to the extent Randy recruits. They switched schools for athletics and didn’t sit out a year. That’s illegal. Maybe not AS illegal as what basketball is doing, but illegal is illegal.


Perhaps I’m in the minority here, but who honestly cares. If a highschool wants to put athletics on pedestal to the point they are plugging in recruits, that’s a decision a school can make.

If parents want to move their 14/15/16/17 year old kids around for sports, it’s just another in a long line of parenting values I disagree with but who actually cares.

That sports played by 14 year olds is now more heavily regulated than college sports seems kind of stupid to me.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8313 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Actually I am hearing the school did not have much knowledge of what was going on with basketball.


You seriously can’t believe that, can you? You seem like a fairly well put together person.

You don’t think that some admin at Newman looked at their team and thought “hmmmm, something doesn’t look right” ?
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
8313 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:13 pm to
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Perhaps I’m in the minority here, but who honestly cares. If a highschool wants to put athletics on pedestal to the point they are plugging in recruits, that’s a decision a school can make.


I sort of kind of want to agree with you, but at some point, you have to have a level playing field for everyone…


If I’m being honest, when I hear schools like Zachary, Curtis, WM & Evangel (back in the day) brag about winning football titles, I just kind of roll my eyes because they’re supposed to.. they’re not on even playing fields like the majority of the other schools

They really need to police the shite better, and if they’re going to turn a blind eye to illegal players playing at new schools, then those schools need to have their own divisions or classes
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 12/19/23 at 9:27 pm to
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Actually I am hearing the school did not have much knowledge of what was going on with basketball.


What a joke. Of course they knew. Students parents coaches and administrators. The school fills out paperwork, approves scholarships, and signs off on every athlete. How could they possibly not know? No one hid it.
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