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re: A few facts about Tre Morgan play at home
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:45 am to LSBoosie
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:45 am to LSBoosie
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He also bobble the fricking ball
You mean the double clutch to create an angle to get the throw off? If the 3B does anything differently he doesn’t get Tre out. It was a great play by both him and the catcher.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 9:55 am to Shaq4prez
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He was hugging the line when he CAUGHT the ball.
I don’t really care that you are crawfishing as long you know the facts now
Also don’t use words that mean something else to a baseball guy. You look dumb
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:08 am to Lester Earl
baseball guy? self proclaimed? its ok to be wrong. And when you are, you refuse to acknowledge it. you also struggle with fact vs. opinion. but thanks for giving the entire board the FACTS about that play
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 10:09 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 10:26 am to Broski
Exactly. He was going to have a difficult play just going to first.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:04 am to TigerMac81
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He was going to have a difficult play just going to first.
Beloso is barely out of the batters box when 3B catches the ball
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:08 am to Rum Ham
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Him going home wasn’t the problem. The little league slide was the problem. And he weirdly hesitated right before he got home. One of those slides that you see all the time where they swipe the plate with their hand gets him home safely. We weirdly slide right into the catcher.
yep - that was the worst slide I have seen since the last time we got called out at home.
We do not seem to have any fundamentals in sliding. Is that why we seldom try to steal a base?
Both plays at home would have been safe easily with a heads-first slide going for the outside corner of the plate.
On this one when his knee hit the ground before his hands got to the plate it was over. knee outstretched in the air his hands would already be on home plate.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:08 am to TigerMac81
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Exactly. He was going to have a difficult play just going to first.
Nah. He would have easily thrown Beloso out. Beloso is incredibly slow.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:10 am to Lester Earl
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If he didn’t go, that’s a double play with Beloso running.
Super unlikely, but I'm not mad about it
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:11 am to Shaq4prez
Hugging the line = defensive positioning term
For next time
For next time
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:13 am to Lester Earl
Out of everything from the game, that play pissed me off the least.
What else was he suppose to do in that situation?
What else was he suppose to do in that situation?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:16 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Can’t assume defensive execution, sure. But neither runner’s speed is preventing that from being a double play.,
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:19 am to Lester Earl
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Hugging the line = defensive positioning term
A step inside the infield grass = playing in
For next time
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:24 am to Lester Earl
I don't think any "baseball guys" are faulting Morgan for going on contact
I wish for Morgan's sake that the throw was better without a play at the plate
But the fact remains that the 3rd baseman had a difficult time getting the ball to the C and Morgan's inept slide resulted in him being tagged out
Any conventional slide is safe on that play
I wish for Morgan's sake that the throw was better without a play at the plate
But the fact remains that the 3rd baseman had a difficult time getting the ball to the C and Morgan's inept slide resulted in him being tagged out
Any conventional slide is safe on that play
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:28 am to Lester Earl
Based on their positioning I don’t think you can assume a double play. The 3B would have either attempted a tag on Morgan returning to the bag, or checked him and gone to first. They were definitely playing for two in the middle, but I don’t think they were on the corners.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:47 am to Lester Earl
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Hugging the line = defensive positioning term
I was not referencing a positioning term. I was referencing his "geographical location" to the line as he caught it. so now you are arguing semantics. Ultimately you know what I meant but insist on your path.
He was straddling the line as he entered his throwing motion
He was approaching the
He was along side the
He was near the
He was close to
He was bordering the
There ya go. I chose other words for you. you can stop deflecting and choose your next argument with someone else
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:49 am to MOT
Yea it depends on where Morgan is on the baseline. If he wasn’t going on contact, likely less aggressive and closer to the bag
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:49 am to Lester Earl
My thoughts:
the play is to go on contact.
To me, Tre looked to be jogging expecting to be out by a mile and get hung up in a run down to allow Merrifield to get to third and Beloso to second.
Not ideal, but you still have 2nd and 3rd with only 1 out and that is the decision you make when you either decide to go on contact, or read the down angle of the hit, or the 3B coach tells you go on contact anywhere except to 3B or P.
I think the crap slide was a result of not knowing the 3B was double pumping, Tre being surprised that he was not out by more, and at the last minute he sees the catcher expecting the ball and thats the best he came up with.
Sucks, but this was no doubt the gamechanger.
Adding salt to the wound, Wes Johnson calling get me over curveballs that were getting blasted rather than sticking with fastballs that hitters were late on and fouling off. Take that to Georgia.
Ok. thats it. Lets beat TN today
the play is to go on contact.
To me, Tre looked to be jogging expecting to be out by a mile and get hung up in a run down to allow Merrifield to get to third and Beloso to second.
Not ideal, but you still have 2nd and 3rd with only 1 out and that is the decision you make when you either decide to go on contact, or read the down angle of the hit, or the 3B coach tells you go on contact anywhere except to 3B or P.
I think the crap slide was a result of not knowing the 3B was double pumping, Tre being surprised that he was not out by more, and at the last minute he sees the catcher expecting the ball and thats the best he came up with.
Sucks, but this was no doubt the gamechanger.
Adding salt to the wound, Wes Johnson calling get me over curveballs that were getting blasted rather than sticking with fastballs that hitters were late on and fouling off. Take that to Georgia.
Ok. thats it. Lets beat TN today
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:52 am to Lester Earl
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Can’t assume defensive execution, sure. But neither runner’s speed is preventing that from being a double play.,
His momentum is going towards the dugout. He has to stop that, make an accurate throw to 2nd which would be 110-115 feet away, and then a quick turn and accurate throw to 1st. A double play on that ball is nearly impossible
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:58 am to Lester Earl
This all makes sense. I never understand why LSU fans never wanna give credit to the opponent. WF is a great team and they made a phenomenal defensive play. That does not mean LSU sucks.
IF Tre goes back to 3rd, best case scenario it’s a bang bang play. He probably gets tagged out there too. I’ll pick the close play at the plate for the go ahead run 10/10 times in that situation. It was a good call, WF just executed better. It sucks, but it happens.
IF Tre goes back to 3rd, best case scenario it’s a bang bang play. He probably gets tagged out there too. I’ll pick the close play at the plate for the go ahead run 10/10 times in that situation. It was a good call, WF just executed better. It sucks, but it happens.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:03 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
2nd and 3rd with one out would not have been a bad situation. Probably would have drawn a walk next to set up the dp though.
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