Athanasius

Launch this new Board ASAP. No further hold ups needed! We all want it, we are all waiting for it eagerly.

A)Should be called Philosophy, Religion, Science Board. (or any different order of those 3 terms).

B)Could also be thought of as the Deep Thinking Board maybe, as that is what it is and the opposite of the OT.

C)Normal TD rules need only apply as BrerTiger Quoted. They are sufficient for the task. Name one problem or issue that TD normal rules does not address? Enforcing those rules however is up to TD staff if they desire to be consistent.

D)We are all just waiting patiently for this Board to be created already. And if any Admin is desiring more help of us in this thread; we do not have a clue more what they want of us unless they come to this thread and fill us in better what they are looking for.

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But the very help being asked for here is how to make such distinctions!

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I know: I was just playing. :lol:

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Doc Fenton

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Thanks for your time responding to my questions.

Chicken:

You should not create separate Religion board imo. Why is because A)it will end up being the most empty board. B)all Religious talk should be in the Political board where all the other liberal/conservative debates happen. It seems like that is it's natural home, or maybe OT can make a baby case as well. Either way, not many care about Religion and so hardly anyone will go to a new board. Only a small few would go there, usually the two extremes like arch Atheists/gay lobbyist vs Fundamentalist protestants and or Arch Conservative Catholics. Ie, people that love the bible-read the bible-obey the bible, and people that hate, disagree, attack the bible. What would you do about topics of abortion. That is deff a political issue. But it very much is a religious and or philosophical issue. And what about Gay marriage, or other issues. Again, very much political, however they always end up, turn up religious/philosophical.

But do one if you desire, your website. But such a board will be dead in no time. It's when catchy titles in mainstream boards draw people. And the liberals and Conservitives argue about politics there in poli board all the time. And how ones belief systems, faith, religion, or lack of such, effect our voting and politics. Belief systems effect the way we view culture. Thus, politics and religion go hand in hand, imo. No need for new board, imo.

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you have no clue what you are talking about and the "lie from a pit of hell" line is cute but just tells me you have no idea how many different versions of the bible there are, how hotly debated the different interpretations are, and how much evidence there is that people have picked and chosen from the options to preach the version they want to talk about

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You want to try me?

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Come on guys - the bible is a hodgepodge of texts which have been translated repeatedly, edited, had context removed, and otherwise altered

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That is a lie from the pit of hell. Your twisting truth might work with a baby Christian that does not know their stuff, but not on me bro. The very Greek/Hebrew texts are awesomely preserved. It may be true that one text to the other might have a dot or hash not there or missing, the most minor of things. But there is such great volumes of them, of each book, that we can compare. And when they find new scrolls, like dead sea ones, and match with more recent ones, they are a match. I don't think you really want to attempt to get into a Biblical Textual debate with me bro. For you will find that your little re-spun talking points from others attacking such things are not true. And you will be pointed out for not having a clue what you are talking about. There are many of us that eat, drink, sleep the Bible. Your not even remotely going to know what you are talking about, you being a man that does not care to understand the Bible. And attempting to spread lies will only make you look like a fool.

And so many were translated into other languages that we can easily cross check them. The accuracy of scripture attack is just a lie from the pit of hell done by people that hate God and the truth which rests inside that scripture. You are not fooling anybody.

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Picking out a few passages which justify hating homosexuality is no more logical than accepting slavery, stoning adulterers, condoning genocide, stoning people who work on teh sabbath, or calling the consumption of shellfish an abomination

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Again, you have not any clue what you speak about. There is a old Covenant and a new one. The new Testament Church is under the New one, ie Jesus. The old Testament Israel was the only nation on earth where the Nation/Govt and the Religion were one in the same and ordered by God. They had different rules and customs. Much was meant for types and shadows of things to come, things having fulfillment in actual things New Testament and with Jesus. The Old Covenant is no more. It has been done away with. But there is a new Kingdom created. But this one is invisible and Jesus is the King. So those old ceremonial laws of old Israel such as not eating pork ect.. do not apply, as the New Testament talks about all this. To understand any issue or passage, you have to understand those things in their Context. And you clearly do not understand such. So when you quote those OT ceremonial laws or such things, us Christians just shrug our shoulders as they do not apply. We know that. But apparently you do not. And your attempt to Cherry Pick things that are not relevant in any way shape or form is pathetic. You clearly show you ignorance of the Bible and Christianity by doing so.

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Its pretty much time that we grew up as a culture and stopped this silliness. If you have an opinion just be a man and say you don't like gay people

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Grew up? If you have not checked the culture yet, the culture is getting much more wicked in all ways. And history shows the further a country gets away from God, it turns wicked. That is why our country is going to pot...just look around and study history. As far as not liking gay people. I think you get easily confused. Christians that believe the bible clearly teaches that homosexuality is a abomination before God and of his creative ways do not beat up gays. We could care less what they do in their homes. Plug males poop shoots all day long if you desire. The only problem we have is you trying hard to brainwash our children that it is ok or normal or natural. That, we take offense to. And as for Marriage, that is a religious thing. No one is keeping you from living with a another guy, having him dressing up in dresses like a woman, and getting your waste hole plugged every night. And no one is holding you back from getting a power of attorney, if you want to be committed to someone, so that you can get death, hospital, other rights. But don't try to lie and call man on man wedding marriage, for its not. And don't try to force your liberal propaganda down our children's throats. True Christians treat all people the same. We would be the last to beat anyone up for being gay. That is not the way of Jesus. But neither is the way of Jesus to Lie and Call what His Father said was a Abomination unto his eyes.

You have been preaching this liberal "Diversity Training stuff" for several years now. Yet the only ones that cannot be handle Diversity is you guys. You want to use that to mean indoctrinate. And you guys preach Tolerance for everybody, however you are the most In-tolerant of other views people there are! There is a word for such and it is called Hypocrites.

Frankly there should be no hate laws of any kind. Murder should be punished equal for all people, and not special classes. That is all this guy was against. Not agreeing with setting up special classes. A true Christian would never beat up a gay person. However, its funny, a street preacher went to Frisco a while ago, and got the crap beat out of him by tons of gay guys. You use double standards and are hypocrites. And everything elts is just a cover for you to try to Ram your perversion down our throats and get our children to except and endorse your perverted ways. And it's never going to happen with us. Just to let you know...

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The sin mentioned here is lust, which is uncontrollable sexual urge. Homosexuality and uncontrollable sexual urge are not the same thing.

None of the verses you cite say that homosexuality is a sexual perversion.

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You are most incredibly incorrect. Your attempts to spin God's Truth in His word are obvious.

The Context of those verses is not general lust such as a man for a woman. It is homosexual lust. We know that because the context explains that to us clearly. God gave them over to their lust, then he goes on to explain what that lust was; first lesbian lusts, then male homosexual lusts as the males the text says abandoned natural relations with women. And it does indeed describe those homosexual "indecent acts" as a "perversion". Anyone with a 1st grade reading level can see that the passage indeed equates the word perversion with Homosexuality. And anyone with even a basic Biblical Comprehension level knows how often and forceful and the abundance that scripture condemns homosexuality. And anyone who says otherwise will just display their folly of the Bible and look like a fool.

Such is no shock as earlier in the Old Testament it calls Homosexuality a Abomination. "18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." The biblical word abomination is the strongest word one can use. That is how God see's it. Suck acts are a Abomination to His eye-site. It goes against his created natural Holy ways and perverts it.

I can list passage after passage about Gods views recorded in His word against Homosexuality if you like. And if you want to try to play the game of lets see if I can spin and lie about it, go right ahead. But you will lose each single time doing so. And you will look like a fool. Your choice.

The NCAA is investigating all of CF regarding recruiting services, not just Oregon. And just look at how much annually Oregon has been spending on them. Not even in the same ballpark as the Bama's of the world. There might be something there, but not one program is worried. This is old news.

Yes, try switching your cooking style.
Fry whole in butter with lemon pepper or, Salt/pepper/lemons or if desire dip in egg/flour batter before frying. If have to grill, try wrapping them up in aluminum foil each one with whatever sauce you wish. I like to go Mexican/hot sauce but add tons of sauce as grilling drys them too much. Or if you want the best taste for your little trout, smoke them just like salmon are done. Just smoke them whole.

If trout are under 20 inches skip the whole Fillet idea. The only way you can do it is with tweezers and it will be a pain for smaller trout. Trout/steelhead/salmon have tons of natural flavors. One really does not need much and one cannot ruin them doing so. Out West where you are at just frying or baking them, such as on a cookie sheet with 1-2 inches of water on the bottom and cut unions on the bottom to not scorch the trout will easily do. Some guys cook them in dishwashers(wrapped in A. foil), such as steelhead and they turn out great.

If you wanted the most simple and quick way and a great taste just fry them whole in butter as mentioned up top. That is the most common way they are cooked out West. ~Enjoy.