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re: Louisville fan here to clear up some misconceptions
Posted by CardinalSin on 1/21/11 at 10:29 am to OU812
Wow you guys are really butthurt over this hire aren't you? With all the football smack talk you'd think I had wandered over to the Alabama forums or something. I double checked and this IS just the LSU forum right? I forgot to check my SEC sense of entitlement at the door, lol.
Anyway in response to a couple of you all, obviously my opinion isn't going to be welcome over here because you all want to like Kragthorpe, and that's fine. Someone mentioned that I should do a list of his pros and cons, well the reason I didn't do the list is because he doesn't have any. There was LITERALLY *NOTHING* positive about his abilities as a coach OR an offensive coordinator. Keep in mind when he ran the offense himself it was our lowest offensive output in 3 decades. Hope that's comforting for you. With a MUCH worse team this year, Sanford brought our offensive stats up 30 spots.
I'm not going to waste a bunch more time over here. You all sound awfully bitter about Krags being hired, and you should. Obviously you all have the better football conference but your basketball teams may as well play in the MWC. What a shitty basketball conference. Even UK's team of "studs" is 2-2 in the SEC, LOL.
I hope this forums keeps posts for a long time, after Krags gets fired after a pathetic year, I will be GLAD to come back and say I told you so. I wasn't just commenting on his ability as a HC you fricking morons, he was THE WORST OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR LOUISVILLE HAS EVER HAD in his one year of doing it alone. Oh and btw, you guys aren't 'Bama. You're not even Florida. Tone down the entitlement a little please, lawl.
Anyway in response to a couple of you all, obviously my opinion isn't going to be welcome over here because you all want to like Kragthorpe, and that's fine. Someone mentioned that I should do a list of his pros and cons, well the reason I didn't do the list is because he doesn't have any. There was LITERALLY *NOTHING* positive about his abilities as a coach OR an offensive coordinator. Keep in mind when he ran the offense himself it was our lowest offensive output in 3 decades. Hope that's comforting for you. With a MUCH worse team this year, Sanford brought our offensive stats up 30 spots.
I'm not going to waste a bunch more time over here. You all sound awfully bitter about Krags being hired, and you should. Obviously you all have the better football conference but your basketball teams may as well play in the MWC. What a shitty basketball conference. Even UK's team of "studs" is 2-2 in the SEC, LOL.
I hope this forums keeps posts for a long time, after Krags gets fired after a pathetic year, I will be GLAD to come back and say I told you so. I wasn't just commenting on his ability as a HC you fricking morons, he was THE WORST OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR LOUISVILLE HAS EVER HAD in his one year of doing it alone. Oh and btw, you guys aren't 'Bama. You're not even Florida. Tone down the entitlement a little please, lawl.
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Louisville fan here to clear up some misconceptions
Posted by CardinalSin on 1/20/11 at 3:50 pm
I know what you're thinking, why am I over here wasting my time on an LSU forum? To be honest I don't really know. I came to see the reaction from your fanbase about the Kragthorpe hire and when I see all of these lies about my favorite program I guess I felt I had to clear the air. Let me just dive right in here...
First off, one of the biggest misconceptions about Kragthorpe's tenure here is that he inherited some kind of 'mess' from Petrino, that Petrino had a team full of thugs that didn't listen, broke laws, broke curfew, beat women, etc. etc. etc. This is simply not true. Anyone who has been around the program at all will tell you that Petrino is an absolutely NO nonsense kind of guy. He had 4 arrests during his tenure at Louisville. All 4 kids were sat for at LEAST a few games.
The biggest reason fans of other schools think there was a 'mess' of some sort is because our AD fed this BS to the media to cover his arse on his terrible hire. This is the first and ONLY bad hire Tom Jurich has ever made at UL. He has made amazing hires in nearly every other major program we have and IMO has been the best AD in the country for the past 12 years, but that is beside the point. Steve was his friend and when Steve didn't perform on the field, Tom had to make things up to keep the fans happy.
The second thing I'd like to address is how people consider Steve a "standup guy". This may appear to be the case on the outside but in reality he is a scumbag of the highest degree. 75% of the team was under a 2.0GPA under Kragthorpe. The Brohm family, which had blessed us with 4 players over the years, tons of money and support off the field, and who attended nearly every game was basically told to hit the road by Kragthorpe after Jeff Brohm served one year as OC. The Brohm family to Louisville football is about as important as it got and Kragthorpe single handedly ruined that relationship. He had players failing out of class while he preached to them about 'character' and 'morals', etc. etc. He then stole millions of dollars he felt he 'earned' from the University even though under him was our worst tenure in over a decade. He inherited a top 10 team and couldn't even make a bowl game. It's pathetic.
Yes he had the 6th best offense in the country in his first year, but he inherited a top 10 offense and didn't run the offense his first year. The year that he ran the offense we were something like 96th. We were absolutely AWFUL. I honestly cannot believe your coach picked Kragthorpe over Sanford. Louisville fans all consider us having dodged a bullet on that one, because Sanford is awesome, but I'm not here to gloat.
Anyway I'm sure most of you all as fans won't believe me any of this but I don't really care. I wanted to give you all the heads up to get rid of this clown as soon as possible. Don't fall for his lies, his BS rhetoric about doing things 'the right way'. I'm not saying that program should accept criminals on the football field but 'the right way' involves instilling discipline in kids, making sure they work HARD at both football and school. Charlie Strong has come in and won a bowl game in his FIRST YEAR with Kragthorpe leftovers while having the team GPA up over 3.0. Every aspect of our team was revitalized. It just goes to show you what a mess Kragthorpe left us in.
Anyway I wish him luck. I hate him for what he did to our program, and he is the biggest lying POS I have ever encountered in D1 athletics but I don't wish him ill will. I hope his wife is doing well and I hope he finds success at LSU though I know he won't.
First off, one of the biggest misconceptions about Kragthorpe's tenure here is that he inherited some kind of 'mess' from Petrino, that Petrino had a team full of thugs that didn't listen, broke laws, broke curfew, beat women, etc. etc. etc. This is simply not true. Anyone who has been around the program at all will tell you that Petrino is an absolutely NO nonsense kind of guy. He had 4 arrests during his tenure at Louisville. All 4 kids were sat for at LEAST a few games.
The biggest reason fans of other schools think there was a 'mess' of some sort is because our AD fed this BS to the media to cover his arse on his terrible hire. This is the first and ONLY bad hire Tom Jurich has ever made at UL. He has made amazing hires in nearly every other major program we have and IMO has been the best AD in the country for the past 12 years, but that is beside the point. Steve was his friend and when Steve didn't perform on the field, Tom had to make things up to keep the fans happy.
The second thing I'd like to address is how people consider Steve a "standup guy". This may appear to be the case on the outside but in reality he is a scumbag of the highest degree. 75% of the team was under a 2.0GPA under Kragthorpe. The Brohm family, which had blessed us with 4 players over the years, tons of money and support off the field, and who attended nearly every game was basically told to hit the road by Kragthorpe after Jeff Brohm served one year as OC. The Brohm family to Louisville football is about as important as it got and Kragthorpe single handedly ruined that relationship. He had players failing out of class while he preached to them about 'character' and 'morals', etc. etc. He then stole millions of dollars he felt he 'earned' from the University even though under him was our worst tenure in over a decade. He inherited a top 10 team and couldn't even make a bowl game. It's pathetic.
Yes he had the 6th best offense in the country in his first year, but he inherited a top 10 offense and didn't run the offense his first year. The year that he ran the offense we were something like 96th. We were absolutely AWFUL. I honestly cannot believe your coach picked Kragthorpe over Sanford. Louisville fans all consider us having dodged a bullet on that one, because Sanford is awesome, but I'm not here to gloat.
Anyway I'm sure most of you all as fans won't believe me any of this but I don't really care. I wanted to give you all the heads up to get rid of this clown as soon as possible. Don't fall for his lies, his BS rhetoric about doing things 'the right way'. I'm not saying that program should accept criminals on the football field but 'the right way' involves instilling discipline in kids, making sure they work HARD at both football and school. Charlie Strong has come in and won a bowl game in his FIRST YEAR with Kragthorpe leftovers while having the team GPA up over 3.0. Every aspect of our team was revitalized. It just goes to show you what a mess Kragthorpe left us in.
Anyway I wish him luck. I hate him for what he did to our program, and he is the biggest lying POS I have ever encountered in D1 athletics but I don't wish him ill will. I hope his wife is doing well and I hope he finds success at LSU though I know he won't.
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