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DrWAVeSport
| Favorite team: | LSU |
| Location: | Shreveport, LA |
| Biography: | Graduate LSUS |
| Interests: | Haynesville Shale Play & LSU Football |
| Occupation: | Retired |
| Number of Posts: | 19 |
| Registered on: | 6/4/2008 |
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re: Haynesville Shale North of Benton??
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 9/2/08 at 3:23 pm to TigerDog83
quote:
ElmGrove = DrWaveSport.
TigerDog83,
In this instance, you are 100% wrong.
DrWAVeSport 9/2/08
Elm Grove, hang in there!
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 7/1/08 at 3:41 pm to cwill
quote:
If I was up there I'd tell the lesse I'd lease at $35,000/Ac and take no royalty as I'm pretty sure most will never see a penny in royalty.
According to the landmen/O&Gs who are "leasing up" the rest of NWLa...the best bet is to rely on a future payout of 25% royalty payment...and not rely on a "larger" upfront bonus payment/acre.
The NWLa mineral/landowner/homeowner is being sold the "lease for less" bonus $ and "reach for royalty" $..."royalty money is where the payoff comes in...not bonus moneys."
OK..What's the true story???? The pundits over here cannot seem to make up their collective minds (for being the "expert" bloggers).
The "haynesvilleshale.ning" bloggers are attempting to help each other...not deride each other. Without them...some of the TDs would still be signing them up for $200/acre 1/8 royalty.
Thank G for the web! It has made this play much more equitable for NWLa! (IMO)
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/21/08 at 10:09 am to tigernorth
Re: RRT Trust 30 and Moncla 31 wells off South Wallace Lake Road (very south Caddo): Sec 30 T16N R13W Field #9715 Spud date on RRT 3/21/08; No spud date on Moncla 31
You Field Guys out there, have any comments per the above? I cannot seem to find anyone who wants to comment. Thanks!
You Field Guys out there, have any comments per the above? I cannot seem to find anyone who wants to comment. Thanks!
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/12/08 at 2:55 pm to TigerDog83
per rentals...No private landowner will receive this, no matter the acreage size? Are you sure? If no royalties are paid because of no production, then why would it matter if the leased property was state or privately owned? Or, are rentals "historically" paid to the state and not private landowners?
Thanks,
Thanks,
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/12/08 at 12:59 pm to TigerDog83
For more information per "rental" go to:
LINK
Then go to "Lease sale & tract history; then choose date; then check "rental" column Most recent dates are recorded thru 6/11/08 (Info provided by Melinda @ Haynesvilleshale.ning.com
I am looking at Caddo/Bossier/Desoto/Red River/Bienville/Nachitoches specifically
Let me know what you guys think. Thanks for the information grapevine!
DrWAVeport 6/12/08
LINK
Then go to "Lease sale & tract history; then choose date; then check "rental" column Most recent dates are recorded thru 6/11/08 (Info provided by Melinda @ Haynesvilleshale.ning.com
I am looking at Caddo/Bossier/Desoto/Red River/Bienville/Nachitoches specifically
Let me know what you guys think. Thanks for the information grapevine!
DrWAVeport 6/12/08
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/12/08 at 12:30 pm to TigerDog83
Anyone know what "rentals" are going for in South Caddo?
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/8/08 at 11:57 am to TigerV
Dear TigerV: (I am trying to improve my blogging etiquette.)
Thank you for the dialogue that you have been a large part of on this blogging venue. I do not want to give you the impression that I am at odds with you. On the contrary, I wholeheartedly agree with you on many points. I just think we are coming to this discussion from two separate paths that (hopefully) will merge to the same place: a positive growth for all who are involved in this Haynesville shale story.
I apologize to you if I misunderstand or misinterpret some of your points and if I am not better relaying to you some of mine.
I joined this discussion in an effort to better understand the curent atmosphere that surrounds NWLa. And, believe it or not, you have been extremely helpful. I applaud you and the other "in the know" bloggers who are sharing vital information with those of us who are getting involved from the landowner's standpoint.
I read everything that you blog, disagreeing with some things, but agreeing with many others. And, I have been interested in all of your opinions. You have given me many points to "chew" on concerning this business of O&G and E&P.
Thank you for all the information that you have provided for so many. I do appreciate receiving your comments.
DrWAVeSport 6/8/08
Thank you for the dialogue that you have been a large part of on this blogging venue. I do not want to give you the impression that I am at odds with you. On the contrary, I wholeheartedly agree with you on many points. I just think we are coming to this discussion from two separate paths that (hopefully) will merge to the same place: a positive growth for all who are involved in this Haynesville shale story.
I apologize to you if I misunderstand or misinterpret some of your points and if I am not better relaying to you some of mine.
I joined this discussion in an effort to better understand the curent atmosphere that surrounds NWLa. And, believe it or not, you have been extremely helpful. I applaud you and the other "in the know" bloggers who are sharing vital information with those of us who are getting involved from the landowner's standpoint.
I read everything that you blog, disagreeing with some things, but agreeing with many others. And, I have been interested in all of your opinions. You have given me many points to "chew" on concerning this business of O&G and E&P.
Thank you for all the information that you have provided for so many. I do appreciate receiving your comments.
DrWAVeSport 6/8/08
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/8/08 at 11:11 am to TigerDog83
Dear TigerDog83:
Please accept my apology for the "incorrect grammer and language." I will attempt to do a better job of conveying my blogging opines (oops...opinions). I am not spending time editing, as I believe you are graciously pointing out to me. I know time constraints and being in a hurry are not adequate excuses for my blogging etiquette.
However, pursuant to your suggestions, I will try to do a better job.
Thank you for your help and direction,
Sincerely yours,
DrWAVeSport
P.S. I'm sorry, my blogging moniker is not really good grammer/language either. I guess we all have to live with some things.
Please accept my apology for the "incorrect grammer and language." I will attempt to do a better job of conveying my blogging opines (oops...opinions). I am not spending time editing, as I believe you are graciously pointing out to me. I know time constraints and being in a hurry are not adequate excuses for my blogging etiquette.
However, pursuant to your suggestions, I will try to do a better job.
Thank you for your help and direction,
Sincerely yours,
DrWAVeSport
P.S. I'm sorry, my blogging moniker is not really good grammer/language either. I guess we all have to live with some things.
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/8/08 at 10:27 am to TigerV
quote:
Contrary to what a lot of people on this board think, this play is still not defined, and for any one person to come on here and say that the OG companies know what is under the ground and are just trying to screw the land owners is full of shite.
This is a "PLAY." So far so good. The only thing that is going on in NWLa is the "PLAY" per se) portion of an O&G stake. The 1st act of this play is the leasing up of land. And...that is what has to be timed by the O&Gs and the landowners.
Under your premise, then Chesapeake, and PetroHawk and Goodrich, etc., have made statements to the press, shareholders, bankers, and institutional investors...that they are betting the farm...on..."that the OG companies know what is under the ground" and exactly how to get to it, and they are going to bring great returns to their stakeholders in the future! Under your premise...No such thing yet exists in reality... They even "outed" each other in order to get their own stock prices moving.
"...CHK still leasing, just having to pay more than in the past."
"Have improved drilling efficiency and reduced average days to drill...20-25 days."
"Increased rig count to 45 rigs, to accelerate acreage development, increase production and capture strong returns."
If you are correct...and all of this $$$$ is going nowhere...but in leasing contracts and promises of royalty payments...? You tell me, then. Data are coming soon, just hold on for a few more months.
Nothing personal...you contradicted yourself from one paragraph to your next paragraph. Defined the field yourself (in the 1st) and turned around and "Contrary to what a lot of people on this board think, this play is still not defined." (in the 2nd)
Your comments are true oilfield talk if I ever hear it. (My Father retired from O&G...have heard it all my life). Retired when the last bust came into Ok, Tx, and NWLa...not pretty.
If there is any segment of the "PLAY" that is responsible for the higher Bonus$, the higher royalty %ages, the landmen being frustrated over landowners' informing themselves and requiring better leases, the slightly "higher cost of doing business in NWLa, and Ft.Worth,Arlington, Tx, etc., etc., etc....
Then it's the O&G companies themselves who let that one go! They messed up! They couldn't stand it anymore...and had to spill the beans to the press. Not the landowners. For whatever the reasons...they drop kicked this barrel over on their own heads!
Quit blaming everyone else for trying to pay attention and becoming their own best advocate...sounds like sour grapes to me.
DrWAVeSport 6/8/08
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/7/08 at 11:58 am to DrWAVeSport
Just picked up my mail this a.m. Another letter...from XTO (Ft. Worth)
Dadgumit...Should of signed with the first one...NOT!
Dadgumit...Should of signed with the first one...NOT!
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/7/08 at 11:34 am to TigerDog83
quote:
I laugh when I hear these people who have land way up North or way down to the South who think they are in the shale and are holding out for offers. People are leasing in these places, but it's not going to be for big money because it's not going to be for the Haynesville shale.
Homeowners/everywhere around Sport and Bossier in particular/No one is going to drill for O&G on your property....However...Several Subdivisions are being offered $10K per homeowner.
If you are a homeowner...without any substantial property...the Bonus $$$ are going up, just same song...second verse...as in the Barnett.
Evangel just leased $10,700/acre. I don't know who will be laughing last. But no one around here is signing for much less.
And...Just heard...leases going for $15K between Ellerbe Rd. and Norris Ferry (south Sport).
No company is going to stop leasing right now...There are at least 10 O&Gs that I know are leasing right now...right here.
Again...I agree with other speculating bloggers...It is the mineral owner's choice. So, do your homework and contact several companies, don't wait for them to send you a generic letter.
(Have received 4 letters in 3 months, myself)
Go to: ning.com and visit "Haynesville" and get some different stuff there. Go every place on the web you can find...lots of chatter out there.
And no one is "laughing" at you.
DrWAVeSPort 6/7/08 a.m.
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 4:32 pm to GeneralLee
quote:
Interesting map today on page 13 of Chesapeake's 2008 Shareholder Report, for those interested....
Funny Map!!!! Around here, supposedly (per some "In The Know" O&G reps/landmen) the Haynesville Shale area is shrinking as we breathe! How awesome...That to the SHAREHOLDERS, BANKERS, ISTITUTIONAL INVESTORS, ETC...the Haynesville Shale map has quadrupled in size!
Oh...By the way CNBC just this second put a "buy" out for Monday a.m. for Chesapeake and PetroHawk...how funny! More $$$$$ for their pocket.
OK...Back the truck up a minute...On the one hand, some are blogging...Take what you can get NOW...because things just aren't as rosy as you the mineral owner may be thinking. AND...then on the 180% opposite hand...TODAY....Read the Stockholder presentation by Chesapeake..."Still Leasing...just having to pay more than in the past." No kidding Sherlock!
That map of Chesapeake needs to be enlarged and posted on every street corner in Caddo and Bossier! Then the mineral owners can ask...Ok...which Haynesville Shale map am I in? The one that has grown in leaps and bounds at your Stockholder meeting...or the one that some (speculators with lease in hand) keep telling us...sorry your property just isn't in the most recent seismic info we have right now...No really...that map is teeny, tiny?" And..."Please sign here...." That's some funny stuff out there.
There is a major fiduciary responsibility that Companies are required to uphold when speaking to their investors and holders of their debt. And, for my money, let's play on Chesapeake's side...HEAVEN IS SITTING IN THE HAYNESVILLE SHALE!
Good Job Chesapeake...You just confirmed the potential for us all!
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 3:16 pm to TigerDog83
Are you saying that local O&G attorneys are not knowledgeable about O&G contracts and some of the most simple stuff "AFEs." Come on now....I think thou protests too much....Statutory force pooling are scary words for most...
I never saw an individual landowner issued and AFE for what we are talking about. And if these plays are worth the contract papers they are written on...everybody needs to take a deep breath and relax alittle.
Everything will be OK! Promise!
I never saw an individual landowner issued and AFE for what we are talking about. And if these plays are worth the contract papers they are written on...everybody needs to take a deep breath and relax alittle.
Everything will be OK! Promise!
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 2:56 pm to TigerDog83
quote:
And you haven't leased? You better lease before they send you an AFE. If not, you are going to get runover. You won't make a penny until the wells in your section pay out on a UNIT basis, which might be a decade from now. Regarding the point about what you call "schmucking" by the oil and gas companies; it is their job to pay as little as possible for leases. That is the nature of capitalism. Buy low and sell high. If you don't like that then I suggest you try the weather in Moscow as I hear it is lovely this time of year. These people should be grateful to the oil and gas companies for offering Northwest Louisiana residents the chance of a lifetime instead of complaining about how much money they left on the table. Royalties are where the real money lies anyways.
FYI...Belong to a larger group of landowners...and FYI... deal is on the table...FYI...no landmen involved...
Lighten up alittle...The cat is out of the bag...and now mineral owners will get a a more equitable deal...The game is played both ways, for all of us who live in the good 'ol USA.
Thank you for your concern though, Seems you are just as concerned for me not getting "run over" by the O&Gs as I have been opining about others.
Seems we all don't want to get the short end of the stick.
Will let you know "the rest of the story" when things get to cooking big.
Remember, the price for Crude and NG are BIGGER driving forces in these plays than just about anything else.
DrWAVeSport
P.S. Read an article from NARO-Texas Convention (The Woodlands, TX) "Where Does The Money Go?" by John R. Hays, Jr., per who gets the lion's share of royalties. With the reductions at the wellhead that pile up, better go for the highest Bonuses up front!
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 1:32 pm to GeneralLee
Landowner in Bossier parish has property all over the parish, mostly around the Central section/Red River side on up to Benton.
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 1:20 pm to DrWAVeSport
Before getting back to my REAL job...One of the largest land owners in Bossier parish, just signed lease for $10,000 per acre. Mucho acres! (For A Fact!) Don't yet know the skinny on royalty, but knowing this deal maker...he wasn't schmucked.
Just some more FYI.
Just some more FYI.
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 1:08 pm to LSU0358
Drop in the bucket, per the O&G companies...They have already made their money from the initial leases in each of the plays they have been involved with during the past 3 years...let alone the rise in their financials, stock and balance sheet #s. By the next quarter or two...They better have something to show to their stakeholders...so should be seeing some major claims in the near future for this run to keep getting sold by the O&Gs.
FYI, two wells going in half a mile from my property two miles south of Shreveport, Caddo.
Still haven't leased. But...my neighbor did for $9,000/acre and 25% royalty.
FYI, two wells going in half a mile from my property two miles south of Shreveport, Caddo.
Still haven't leased. But...my neighbor did for $9,000/acre and 25% royalty.
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/6/08 at 12:38 pm to TigerDog83
Sorry...Don't mean to his a sore spot with anyone on either side of the deal making. FYI I worked for an O&G company for 10 years...I know the game.
And...YES...The SAME O&G Players in the Barnett are the SAME as in the Haynesville. The Barnett shakedown started almost 3 years ago...Same song and dance that is playing out in our area.
They KNEW it all!!! They have known for years this shale was in NWLa and were insiders as to knowing they had the new technology and that the NG prices were climbing higher/in tandem with the Crude Oil prices...
Most were suckered in Ft. Worth/Arlington and most have been suckered in NWLa. Nothing personal to anyone...not from my point of view.
Business is Business...I agree.
But, give us all a break, no one appreciates getting schmucked. Bet not even you.
And...the 800+ who attended last night's Haynesville Shale Play Meeting @ Captain Shreve H.S. in Shreveport (including the Mayor, City CAO Tom Dark, O&G attorney Lang Wedgeworth, etc.) seem to be in agreement with moi. Nobody needs to be taken complete advantage of here...That's my opine...and, nothing personal to any bloggers' opinions. Each to his own.
I am enjoying your opines too. Thanks again for the info from the other side of the play.
DrWAVeSport 6/6/08 NG @ $12.70 as we speak.
And...YES...The SAME O&G Players in the Barnett are the SAME as in the Haynesville. The Barnett shakedown started almost 3 years ago...Same song and dance that is playing out in our area.
They KNEW it all!!! They have known for years this shale was in NWLa and were insiders as to knowing they had the new technology and that the NG prices were climbing higher/in tandem with the Crude Oil prices...
Most were suckered in Ft. Worth/Arlington and most have been suckered in NWLa. Nothing personal to anyone...not from my point of view.
Business is Business...I agree.
But, give us all a break, no one appreciates getting schmucked. Bet not even you.
And...the 800+ who attended last night's Haynesville Shale Play Meeting @ Captain Shreve H.S. in Shreveport (including the Mayor, City CAO Tom Dark, O&G attorney Lang Wedgeworth, etc.) seem to be in agreement with moi. Nobody needs to be taken complete advantage of here...That's my opine...and, nothing personal to any bloggers' opinions. Each to his own.
I am enjoying your opines too. Thanks again for the info from the other side of the play.
DrWAVeSport 6/6/08 NG @ $12.70 as we speak.
re: Haynesville Shale
Posted by DrWAVeSport on 6/5/08 at 9:15 pm to TigerDog83
Per leasing with land men: Good friends of mine leased this past Fall 100+ acres in south Caddo parish for $120/acre and small royalty...my neighbor just signed lease on 13 acres/$9,000/acre and 25% royalty...7+ months have passed between these two deals. One signed through a representative of an O&G co. and one signed directly with the O&G. The JP Morgan fellas believe that lease-hold (interest only) contracts per acre (with some kind of computer mumbo-jumbo about a royalty calculation worked into their computer models) are worth (to the mineral owner) as of May 08...between $10K and $42K per acre/Bonus moneys. Spoke with them myself. Big spread. Today...I still talk with landowners in Shreveport/Bossier/Red River/Desoto who are being approached for $2K up to $5K Bonus moneys and are being told that this "deal" is a one shot...this day only offer by the O&G companies. Nothing adds up here. And...the O&G companies are submitting legal notices to the State Conservation Commissioner that include "force pooling" clauses in them. Not voluntary pooling...force pooling.
We need the straight talk from O&G experts that will help the mineral owners get a GREAT deal on their contracts. The O&Gs will be reaping thousands of X's the benefits and $$$$ far longer than the mineral owners. I don't see why any landowner...large...or small...should be getting schmucked in this process. Not one dime will the O&G CEO's be losing sleep over...they have already schmucked over 300,000 acres of landowners last Fall.
I think all sides of the Haynesville Shale Play could get GREAT deals if the leasors had as much integrity as my fellow neighbor leasees possess. Especially those who signed this past Fall, in good faith, with these companies (that "knew" what was sitting under the surface and "knew" exactly how this play was going down)!
Thanks for all the inside info you all are providing...It helps all of us in this HSP.
DrWAVeSport 6/5/08 p.m.
P.O. Check out Questar (bought lease-hold interest only in 22,000 acres (one parcel in Red River and one parcel in Bienville parishes)for $655 Million on Feb. 29, 2008. Press release 3/3/08. Questar/out of Utah....not even a big player in this play...
We need the straight talk from O&G experts that will help the mineral owners get a GREAT deal on their contracts. The O&Gs will be reaping thousands of X's the benefits and $$$$ far longer than the mineral owners. I don't see why any landowner...large...or small...should be getting schmucked in this process. Not one dime will the O&G CEO's be losing sleep over...they have already schmucked over 300,000 acres of landowners last Fall.
I think all sides of the Haynesville Shale Play could get GREAT deals if the leasors had as much integrity as my fellow neighbor leasees possess. Especially those who signed this past Fall, in good faith, with these companies (that "knew" what was sitting under the surface and "knew" exactly how this play was going down)!
Thanks for all the inside info you all are providing...It helps all of us in this HSP.
DrWAVeSport 6/5/08 p.m.
P.O. Check out Questar (bought lease-hold interest only in 22,000 acres (one parcel in Red River and one parcel in Bienville parishes)for $655 Million on Feb. 29, 2008. Press release 3/3/08. Questar/out of Utah....not even a big player in this play...
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