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They don’t ever work, and the reason they don’t is because we have no business engaging at all. It never will work, because we have no business engaging at all. It will never be embraced by the host country, because we have no business engaging at all.

If you’ve read my posts in this thread you’d see that’s exactly what I’m implying. The US has a massive amounts of soft pier to export around the world and we’ve ignored for at least a generation
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Socialism really sucks.


Socialism is actually awesome. The problem is that human beings aren’t capable of adhering to it.
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The internal operations of other countries is none of our business, nor should it be.


Sure, it shouldn’t be but it is, and that’s a reality that is inescapable. Until the United States ceases to exists or is so weak that no on gives a shot then that’s just the way it is. So we can figure out a better way or continue to wage war on a global scale. Pick your poison bro.
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Justification has everything to do with it. Our foreign policy’s presumption of omnipotent power is one of the worst things about this country and the reason we create infinitely more geopolitical problems than we solve.

The means of our mingling is immaterial. The fact we do it at all is the problem

This is a silly thought process. It assumes an end state of utopia that is impossible the same as progressives do with their nonsense ideas. Grow up
Trump was such Hitleresque politician that he literally allowed to ridiculous impeachments against his regime under his watch and allowed people to burn effigies of himself feet from his front door on a daily basis.
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So long as you hold that belief, you’re never allowed to be surprised when the US is resented, reviled, and/or hated abroad.
All of this is overstated and over exaggerated. We aren’t reviled or hated by most people.
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We have zero justification for the level of meddling we undertake.
Justification has zero to do with it.

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And we aren’t even good at it.
Agreed, hence why I said we need to find a better way.
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I’m arguing against anyone who thinks the United States should have any say in who governs any other nation.
While I agree in principle, it’s just not realistic. The US is the largest economy in the world. We’re going to influence the rest of the world in some way. We just need to find a better way of doing it.
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The fact that Afghanistan is falling into Taliban hands so quickly is proof that we never should have occupied the country to begin with, and anything past establishing a base of operations to seek out and kill bin Laden and immediately abandoning it after he was taken out has been an immense waste of blood and taxpayer money.


Its funny that we spend trillions on special forces designed specifically to train these armies to fight against organizations like the taliban and ISIS and everytime those forces get their asses locked despite massive advantages in technology and training. We should really re think our reliance on SOF forces, whom are by ever measure complete failures. Also, the CIA is completely incapable of predicting or influencing these events. Basically our most highly trained and highly funded military units and intelligence professionals are impotent.
I’m not sure why you’re arguing with me. My first post in this thread was that it’s not our job to protect the Afghans from themselves
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They cheered it. Disgusting animals.
Dude the average Afghan has spend probably about 2 seconds of his entire life giving a frick about the US. And I promise you many more Afghans have fought, bleed and died fighting al Queda and the taliban than Americans have.
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Kabul will fall before 8/31
The city of Kabul was hosting massive pro Taliban rallies at huge soccer stadiums with the leaders of the taliban as speakers at least 5 years ago. These were that the US government observed in real time. Kabul will go to the Taliban on day one post US forces
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God speed Afghan people
Godspeed indeed. Unfortunately it’s not our job to protect them form themselves for eternity.
It’s called the praetorian guard. It’s common amongst totalitarian regimes
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Well then you'd be a hypocrite.
No I wouldn’t. I very clearly stated that in any civilized society some amount of taxation(theft) is necessary. The issue what is too little or too much.

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but if you move the goalposts as its convenient for you then there's probably no real reason to continue the banter.
Ive moved no goalposts. If so please tell me where I have so I can address it.

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So the government is akin to the mafia now?
Exactly how are they different? Both make every move to further their own goals. Both “tax” people under their sphere of influence. Both use that money to kill people that they deem need to be killed. Philosophically what’s the difference?
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You were just a shite partner involved with another shite partner. shite businessman. shite fisherman. All the same thing.

No. they aren’t the same thing because I don’t subsidize the other shite partner or businessman or fisherman with the money that I’ve earned. That’s the difference. Your analogy has me paying the guy who won’t wash dishes at my business to to frick my wife while I still pay for it. It’s nonsensical.
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But a person's decision to come to work or stay at home is not very different than a person choosing with whom to transact
Taxpayer provided stimmies and benefits are not market forces.

Yes, government policies can have the same affect as free market forces on the market but that does not mean they are same thing. One is natural occurrence in the market and the other is forced by an outside entity.
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You can't be "taxation is theft guy" and also "muh roads and muh public schools" guy.
Sure I can ??

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If you're benefitting from taxes (e.g. public schools, an educated populace, good infrastructure) then it isn't theft. You're getting something for your money.
Lots of small businesses used to “benefit” from paying “protection money” to the mob too.
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Let's say you have a smoking hot wife. A dime. A 10. And you find out someday that she's been cheating on you and has left you for another guy or girl. A conversation takes place where you learn that she left you because you never rinse your dishes and leave a mess in the sink.


Did the government tax me and provide the guy who did dishes for her? If not then your analogy is fricking retarded.

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She's obviously a piece of shite for walking off behind something so trivial, but what does it say about you that you couldn't contribute just a little more to keep a balanced ecosystem?
I don’t think you understand the definition of balanced ecosystem. If I go to the Amazon rainforest and burn down a million acres do we blame the endangered species there for not anticipating the outside influences not in their control?
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In capitalism, worth is determined by market forces not government or philosophical rhetoric.
Apparently to him, market forces and government rhetoric or policy are one in the same.
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I'm sure you'd love to live in a world where there is not public education or public works upkeep, but I wouldn't.



It’s very clear that you did not comprehend the post you replied to
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As for why each business hurting for labor is unable to attract the workers they desire, I could begin to speculate. However, if want the labor (whether they're on the couch or at a competitive firm) you're going to have to attract them. For most, that means more money.
Youre almost there man. A few more posts and you’ll actually understand inflation.