Lance Criminal 23

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Socialism really sucks.

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Socialism is actually awesome. The problem is that human beings aren’t capable of adhering to it.

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Justification has everything to do with it. Our foreign policy’s presumption of omnipotent power is one of the worst things about this country and the reason we create infinitely more geopolitical problems than we solve.

The means of our mingling is immaterial. The fact we do it at all is the problem

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This is a silly thought process. It assumes an end state of utopia that is impossible the same as progressives do with their nonsense ideas. Grow up

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So long as you hold that belief, you’re never allowed to be surprised when the US is resented, reviled, and/or hated abroad.

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All of this is overstated and over exaggerated. We aren’t reviled or hated by most people.

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We have zero justification for the level of meddling we undertake.

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Justification has zero to do with it.

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And we aren’t even good at it.

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Agreed, hence why I said we need to find a better way.

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The fact that Afghanistan is falling into Taliban hands so quickly is proof that we never should have occupied the country to begin with, and anything past establishing a base of operations to seek out and kill bin Laden and immediately abandoning it after he was taken out has been an immense waste of blood and taxpayer money.

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Its funny that we spend trillions on special forces designed specifically to train these armies to fight against organizations like the taliban and ISIS and everytime those forces get their asses locked despite massive advantages in technology and training. We should really re think our reliance on SOF forces, whom are by ever measure complete failures. Also, the CIA is completely incapable of predicting or influencing these events. Basically our most highly trained and highly funded military units and intelligence professionals are impotent.

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They cheered it. Disgusting animals.

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Dude the average Afghan has spend probably about 2 seconds of his entire life giving a frick about the US. And I promise you many more Afghans have fought, bleed and died fighting al Queda and the taliban than Americans have.

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God speed Afghan people

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Godspeed indeed. Unfortunately it’s not our job to protect them form themselves for eternity.

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Well then you'd be a hypocrite.

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No I wouldn’t. I very clearly stated that in any civilized society some amount of taxation(theft) is necessary. The issue what is too little or too much.

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but if you move the goalposts as its convenient for you then there's probably no real reason to continue the banter.

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Ive moved no goalposts. If so please tell me where I have so I can address it.

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So the government is akin to the mafia now?

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Exactly how are they different? Both make every move to further their own goals. Both “tax” people under their sphere of influence. Both use that money to kill people that they deem need to be killed. Philosophically what’s the difference?

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But a person's decision to come to work or stay at home is not very different than a person choosing with whom to transact

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Taxpayer provided stimmies and benefits are not market forces.

Yes, government policies can have the same affect as free market forces on the market but that does not mean they are same thing. One is natural occurrence in the market and the other is forced by an outside entity.

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Let's say you have a smoking hot wife. A dime. A 10. And you find out someday that she's been cheating on you and has left you for another guy or girl. A conversation takes place where you learn that she left you because you never rinse your dishes and leave a mess in the sink.

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Did the government tax me and provide the guy who did dishes for her? If not then your analogy is fricking retarded.

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She's obviously a piece of shite for walking off behind something so trivial, but what does it say about you that you couldn't contribute just a little more to keep a balanced ecosystem?

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I don’t think you understand the definition of balanced ecosystem. If I go to the Amazon rainforest and burn down a million acres do we blame the endangered species there for not anticipating the outside influences not in their control?

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I'm sure you'd love to live in a world where there is not public education or public works upkeep, but I wouldn't.

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It’s very clear that you did not comprehend the post you replied to

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oooh, you're a "taxation is theft" guy.

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Of course it’s theft ??. The only thing that matters is how much we deem is too much or too little theft. Obviously a society devoid of taxes is impossible but by very definition it is theft. You either give the government your money or you are punished in some way.

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No money was taken from me as a result of the pandemic outside of the normal course of business.

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Why is this relevant? Money was taken by the government for you and given to people who did nothing to earn it and now people like you are having a hard time finding employees. This isn’t complicated.

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Insofar that as a consumer can freely choose which businesses they wish to transact with

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So many businesses weren’t forced to shutdown during Covid because they were deemed nonessential?

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If the workforce is not incentivized to return to a job where they make shite wages, you cannot be surprised if they choose to stay home and get paid.

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The logical way to incentivize them would be to takeaway the benefits that are incentivizing them not work. Not force massive inflation on the entire population.

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Well, it appears that exactly that has happened. They found a new source of income

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Oh! You’ve figured it out! Take away their source of “income” and see what happens.

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No money was taken from my business by the government.

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I am a small business owner.

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no you’re not

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What we're seeing is that many, many private businesses were paying their employees so little that a few stimmies and unemployment benefits were more attractive than coming to work.

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So you admit that the government took money from businesses that employ people, forced those businesses to either shutdown or reduce staffing, then gave the money they took to those former employees and now it’s the onus of the business owner to compete with the stimulus and unemployment that they actually paid for just to get employees to come to work?

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That's awfully young to come out normal after killing someone. Hope it all works out.

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The only reason people think this is because they’ve been told by mass media and the entertainment industry that they should feel that way. Killing other people has been around since humans were alive. If it’s done in self defense or during war it’s not an unnatural act.