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GSMBA16,
The FIN 720 last test was fine and should go smoothly if you've made it this far. The problems were generally a little less complex than the practice, and the true/false questions seemed less tricky than some of his other tests. I got A's on all four.
The FIN 720 last test was fine and should go smoothly if you've made it this far. The problems were generally a little less complex than the practice, and the true/false questions seemed less tricky than some of his other tests. I got A's on all four.
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You literally don't have to do any of the work for ISDS 705. Only the tests count. Everything in the tests comes from the textbook, and if you have a PDF you can search the textbook during the test for the relevant phrasing on the questions.
If you have any kind of IT background, you probably don't even need to do that, but it doesn't take long to double-check stuff.
You could probably not even read the textbook at all, but I did to keep myself disciplined for my other classes.
Also, he assigned reading of some paper on hypothetical database architecture designs, which was interesting but waaaaay inappropriate for the class, which is more like "here's stuff you should know about how IT projects work."
If you have any kind of IT background, you probably don't even need to do that, but it doesn't take long to double-check stuff.
You could probably not even read the textbook at all, but I did to keep myself disciplined for my other classes.
Also, he assigned reading of some paper on hypothetical database architecture designs, which was interesting but waaaaay inappropriate for the class, which is more like "here's stuff you should know about how IT projects work."
re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
Posted by zdt on 10/12/17 at 5:01 pm to Jasons_MBA_Acct
Jason,
I also have an IT background. My previous degree did not include accounting/econ or much in the way of statistics, so I took both BADM 700 and BADM 701. You're not going to find a lot of people who had similar backgrounds who skipped the classes because they've been hard prerequisites up until nowish.
That said, I agree with DieDaily's general assessment that the Stats/Econ combined was a little rough in terms of information density, but they were interesting/useful (mostly for Econ 705). The accounting/finance was like 90% accounting, and there was a lot of overlap with ACCT 701, in that the concepts were the same in both but approached from different perspectives. There wasn't anything in the Finance side that was needed before the Finance classes; it was basically just time value of money.
I probably could have done without both, but I learn crazy fast, so that's not necessarily helpful advice for most people.
Also, I opted for the Finance specialization. When I applied in February for the March session, the concentration was an extra class beyond any other in the program, so that seemed ridiculous. They dropped MADM 720 from the core requirements like a week before I started, but I'd already gotten my books and it was one of the few classes that I could take without taking the prerequisite classes first, so I just kept it as an elective. Due to the course rotation schedule, doing the Finance concentration would have forced me to take an extra session. Considering that the concentrations and specializations and whatnot don't show on your diploma, just think of them as electives ('cause they are) and take the ones that you want to take.
I also have an IT background. My previous degree did not include accounting/econ or much in the way of statistics, so I took both BADM 700 and BADM 701. You're not going to find a lot of people who had similar backgrounds who skipped the classes because they've been hard prerequisites up until nowish.
That said, I agree with DieDaily's general assessment that the Stats/Econ combined was a little rough in terms of information density, but they were interesting/useful (mostly for Econ 705). The accounting/finance was like 90% accounting, and there was a lot of overlap with ACCT 701, in that the concepts were the same in both but approached from different perspectives. There wasn't anything in the Finance side that was needed before the Finance classes; it was basically just time value of money.
I probably could have done without both, but I learn crazy fast, so that's not necessarily helpful advice for most people.
Also, I opted for the Finance specialization. When I applied in February for the March session, the concentration was an extra class beyond any other in the program, so that seemed ridiculous. They dropped MADM 720 from the core requirements like a week before I started, but I'd already gotten my books and it was one of the few classes that I could take without taking the prerequisite classes first, so I just kept it as an elective. Due to the course rotation schedule, doing the Finance concentration would have forced me to take an extra session. Considering that the concentrations and specializations and whatnot don't show on your diploma, just think of them as electives ('cause they are) and take the ones that you want to take.
From the Master of Business Administration section of the 2017-2018 course catalog:
Sure looks like you can miss up to two sessions in a row without any particular consequences, and beyond that you're mostly placing yourself at the mercy of future program requirement changes. It's probably worth talking to your student coordinator if you have specific concerns.
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Catalog
If a student withdraws from the program for more than two regular sessions, he/she must re-enter under the catalog in effect at the time of re-entry.
quote:
Time Limit
A student has eight years to complete the MBA degree starting when he/she begins graduate-level coursework. If the student does not meet the time limit requirement before graduate courses are completed, he/she must re- enter under the catalog in effect at the time of re-entry or obtain approval from the Graduate Studies Committee, the Dean of the College of Business, Education, and Human Development, and Graduate Council to extend the time limit.
Sure looks like you can miss up to two sessions in a row without any particular consequences, and beyond that you're mostly placing yourself at the mercy of future program requirement changes. It's probably worth talking to your student coordinator if you have specific concerns.
Socal77,
I think they're trying to confirm that it's going to be open book again. Any responses that specifically applied to the last session aren't relevant, because the course policy could change for next session.
From what I remember, Dr. Lin put it in his big long list of things to do before the test for each module in Moodle. It will be very clear from his description there. He is clearly the type of teacher that does not want to field the same question from hundreds of students. As I mentioned before, it wasn't in the syllabus last time, so its omission this time does not represent a change.
I think they're trying to confirm that it's going to be open book again. Any responses that specifically applied to the last session aren't relevant, because the course policy could change for next session.
From what I remember, Dr. Lin put it in his big long list of things to do before the test for each module in Moodle. It will be very clear from his description there. He is clearly the type of teacher that does not want to field the same question from hundreds of students. As I mentioned before, it wasn't in the syllabus last time, so its omission this time does not represent a change.
For people waiting on graduation information, the reports went to the last office of approval this morning, apparently, and will be on the way to the registrar next. People should feel free to fill out the graduation application and submit it as I mentioned in my previous post.
https://www.lsus.edu/offices-and-services/records-and-registration/graduation
https://www.lsus.edu/offices-and-services/records-and-registration/graduation
re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
Posted by zdt on 10/2/17 at 3:02 pm to Jeaux Cool
The ISDS705 syllabus didn't say tests would be open book last term either (I just checked), but it was posted somewhere in the information on Moodle for the class (which is no longer available for me to view).
re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
Posted by zdt on 10/2/17 at 11:37 am to Benny The Jet
I got a similar email a few weeks ago when I asked about it.
The link is a little funky: https://lsusdmm.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0uKamxAGmZGmePP
Here's the body of the email from the program coordinator (without the link, which I put above):
I have not received anything yet from the registrar's office. I talked to the records team on Friday because I wanted to make sure I could submit the graduation application on time (since the deadline is tomorrow), and the graduation packet didn't have an email address to send it to, only the physical building room. I was told that they had not received my degree checkout yet, so they would not be able to process my graduation application or add the fee to the mylsus site. I plan to follow up later today since I still haven't heard anything.
Graduation packets can be found here: https://www.lsus.edu/offices-and-services/records-and-registration/graduation
As that page says:
The link is a little funky: https://lsusdmm.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_0uKamxAGmZGmePP
Here's the body of the email from the program coordinator (without the link, which I put above):
quote:
You are enrolled in all of your final classes. Congrats.
Click on this link to submit a request for a degree check out: Fall Degree Checkout Request
Your degree checkout will be sent to the registrar’s office. During each term I run reports of who is eligible for degree conferral during the week after the last date to drop with a W. I send degree check outs for students and once the registrar’s office processes it, you will receive an email from the registrar’s office with a graduation application and they will add the $50 fee for your diploma processing then if appropriate and give you further directions for your degree conferral. The graduation ceremony is Dec. 17th at 2pm and it is optional but we encourage you to attend if you desire to do so. Your degree will be conferred after the conclusion of the 7 week term.
Watch your mylsus email for this notification. My office does not provide anything further beyond submitting the checkout which will not be done until the reports are run in late September for those completing in fall AP1 and late November for those completing work in AP2. There is also nothing required for you to do until you receive the graduation application from the registrar’s office email which will be sent prior to any deadlines. Further details will be contained in that packet sent from the registrar’s office.
I have not received anything yet from the registrar's office. I talked to the records team on Friday because I wanted to make sure I could submit the graduation application on time (since the deadline is tomorrow), and the graduation packet didn't have an email address to send it to, only the physical building room. I was told that they had not received my degree checkout yet, so they would not be able to process my graduation application or add the fee to the mylsus site. I plan to follow up later today since I still haven't heard anything.
Graduation packets can be found here: https://www.lsus.edu/offices-and-services/records-and-registration/graduation
As that page says:
quote:
Once completed, e-mail to registrar@lsus.edu or fax to 318-797-5286. Deadline to submit the Graduation Application to the Records Office is Tuesday, October 3, 2017.
GSMBA16, I took the FIN720 test and found it comparable to the other two. I've had A's on all three.
re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
Posted by zdt on 9/22/17 at 4:58 pm to AstroTiger
I've seen these sorts of "oh god, everything is so hard" threads for a few classes. BADM701 and ECON705 had them. Like FIN720, I've definitely seen each of them called "the toughest class in the program." Since all my previous classes disappeared from Moodle, I can't really look back to see about some of the other classes.
Personally, I can't give real negative feedback for this professor on either FIN720 (halfway through) or FIN710. For me, they're structured well, with minimal fluff. I learn well on my own and don't attend the zoom sessions of any of the professors. I recommend building Excel spreadsheets for the various problem types for all of the Finance classes, since Finance has a lot of formula-based calculations. They reduce the time taken and the likelihood of a calculation error. People can get tripped up on the test when he combines several problems into one (find a value based on one formula, use it to get the answer from another formula).
The one specific piece of feedback I would give is to be very careful of problems vulnerable to rounding error, because they crop up from time to time and can make none of the answers look correct until you round in the same way the professor did. In the class materials, he rounds early and to few digits. On the tests, he seems to round very late.
Also, he likes tricky true/false questions based on comprehension of things not explicitly spelled out in the material, which is where I tend to miss points. A lot of the time I feel like both answers could be correct, if [some specific consideration not in the problem]. Those questions tend to be worth the least, so that helps.
It sucks to see people struggling when they're reportedly putting in the time and effort. If you're good at inferring concepts from examples, good at math, and otherwise prefer learning on your own, these classes are fairly painless and rewarding. I enjoy them more than writing 1000 word essays and memorizing bullet points for exams on half a dozen similar motivation theories (and the names of the authors) for MADM 701.
Personally, I can't give real negative feedback for this professor on either FIN720 (halfway through) or FIN710. For me, they're structured well, with minimal fluff. I learn well on my own and don't attend the zoom sessions of any of the professors. I recommend building Excel spreadsheets for the various problem types for all of the Finance classes, since Finance has a lot of formula-based calculations. They reduce the time taken and the likelihood of a calculation error. People can get tripped up on the test when he combines several problems into one (find a value based on one formula, use it to get the answer from another formula).
The one specific piece of feedback I would give is to be very careful of problems vulnerable to rounding error, because they crop up from time to time and can make none of the answers look correct until you round in the same way the professor did. In the class materials, he rounds early and to few digits. On the tests, he seems to round very late.
Also, he likes tricky true/false questions based on comprehension of things not explicitly spelled out in the material, which is where I tend to miss points. A lot of the time I feel like both answers could be correct, if [some specific consideration not in the problem]. Those questions tend to be worth the least, so that helps.
It sucks to see people struggling when they're reportedly putting in the time and effort. If you're good at inferring concepts from examples, good at math, and otherwise prefer learning on your own, these classes are fairly painless and rewarding. I enjoy them more than writing 1000 word essays and memorizing bullet points for exams on half a dozen similar motivation theories (and the names of the authors) for MADM 701.
A situation not unlike the one in ACCT 701 is happening in FIN 720. Apparently a good number of people are struggling mightily with the class (average for test 1 after adjusting for one question and makeup exams was 71%, average for test two was 75%), and since the syllabus explicitly states there will be no opportunities for extra credit, Professor Hsieh is sticking to that. To his credit, he looked into how other professors have handled these kinds of curveballs and found that none of the ones listed as having provided extra credit opportunities explicitly forbade it in the syllabus, and he consulted with one of the chairs. He also moved up the start date of the third exam so people had the opportunity to take it before the withdrawal deadline. In future versions of this class, he plans to adjust the content to help, removing some of the international finance content that (in his 30 years teaching experience) tends to be the thing students struggle with the most. He describes it as "somehow students are allergic to exchange rates."
He also notes that previous FIN 720 classes used a textbook, and with the program choice to not ask students to purchase textbooks, some of the content was restructured accordingly, with a greater emphasis on exchange-rates.
There are only 57 participants listed in the class today (including the professor), so as a non-core class it's obviously not going to get the same attention, but this seemed like useful information for prospective students. There will likely be growing pains with a number of classes that have previously used external resources like Cengage or expensive textbooks.
(For what it's worth, I'm not struggling with FIN720 and I did just fine with the same professor in FIN710 last session. I don't have a finance background, but there are at least a couple people in the class with finance backgrounds who are struggling.)
He also notes that previous FIN 720 classes used a textbook, and with the program choice to not ask students to purchase textbooks, some of the content was restructured accordingly, with a greater emphasis on exchange-rates.
There are only 57 participants listed in the class today (including the professor), so as a non-core class it's obviously not going to get the same attention, but this seemed like useful information for prospective students. There will likely be growing pains with a number of classes that have previously used external resources like Cengage or expensive textbooks.
(For what it's worth, I'm not struggling with FIN720 and I did just fine with the same professor in FIN710 last session. I don't have a finance background, but there are at least a couple people in the class with finance backgrounds who are struggling.)
According to the graduation paperwork, honors designations are awarded for undergraduate degrees only.
There is, apparently, a Beta Gamma Sigma (business degree honor society) chapter that you may be eligible to join with a higher GPA.
Other than that...GPA is probably not hugely relevant to anything other than bragging rights and/or future academic program admittance.
There is, apparently, a Beta Gamma Sigma (business degree honor society) chapter that you may be eligible to join with a higher GPA.
Other than that...GPA is probably not hugely relevant to anything other than bragging rights and/or future academic program admittance.
Note that Proctorio requests a camera sweep of your room partway through exams. It's annoying, because you have to stop whatever you were doing and do that immediately. The only times I haven't had to do that on a Proctorio exam is when the test was very short (like five to ten minutes). My understanding from a previous class is that the sessions are available for a teacher (or class coach) to review, but that it's also being automatically processed for obvious issues (like your face disappearing or something).
I don't ever think about proctors or whatever while taking a test, so it doesn't bother me at all whether it's record/review like Proctorio or a live proctor.
I don't ever think about proctors or whatever while taking a test, so it doesn't bother me at all whether it's record/review like Proctorio or a live proctor.
GSMBA16,
I normally don't really get into my grades much, but since FIN720 is an elective, you're probably not going to get as many responses.
I thought the first FIN720 test was decently challenging, but a lot of it came from the awkward wording the teacher sometimes uses, especially on the true/false questions or where it wasn't 100% clear which currency was supposed to be compared against which (matters for percentage change calculations).
The structure and difficulty of the test was very similar to those from his FIN710 class last session. I got a 92.98% on this FIN720 test, which was lower than any of grades I got for FIN710. My general advice would be to be very comfortable with the practice problems in the textbook, consider investing time in setting up Excel sheets to quickly work the same kinds of problems quickly, and that he likes to ask you to solve for some part of the equation that he never had you solve for in the practice problems, so be ready for that, too. And for the weirdly-worded true/false questions...read that section of the textbook and just try to sort it out. Those are usually worth fewer points anyway. I had a lot of time left over on this test, but I nearly ran out of time on the third test of FIN710 (as did a lot of people on the internal discussion chat), so I'd strongly recommend that you pre-work the problems in Excel in case some particular test ends up being tight on time. It's also worth noting that the tests are not weighted evenly; that is, this test was worth 57/188 total available points, just over 30% of the course grade.
For everyone else talking about FIN701's first test,
I had 3 or 4 math problems (two sections each). I opted to just work them quickly and focus on getting answers for everything, then go back to show my work for potential partial credit. I didn't have time to show my work on everything, and submitted with 33 seconds left. I suspect I probably spent too much time on my writing, but it all worked out.
I normally don't really get into my grades much, but since FIN720 is an elective, you're probably not going to get as many responses.
I thought the first FIN720 test was decently challenging, but a lot of it came from the awkward wording the teacher sometimes uses, especially on the true/false questions or where it wasn't 100% clear which currency was supposed to be compared against which (matters for percentage change calculations).
The structure and difficulty of the test was very similar to those from his FIN710 class last session. I got a 92.98% on this FIN720 test, which was lower than any of grades I got for FIN710. My general advice would be to be very comfortable with the practice problems in the textbook, consider investing time in setting up Excel sheets to quickly work the same kinds of problems quickly, and that he likes to ask you to solve for some part of the equation that he never had you solve for in the practice problems, so be ready for that, too. And for the weirdly-worded true/false questions...read that section of the textbook and just try to sort it out. Those are usually worth fewer points anyway. I had a lot of time left over on this test, but I nearly ran out of time on the third test of FIN710 (as did a lot of people on the internal discussion chat), so I'd strongly recommend that you pre-work the problems in Excel in case some particular test ends up being tight on time. It's also worth noting that the tests are not weighted evenly; that is, this test was worth 57/188 total available points, just over 30% of the course grade.
For everyone else talking about FIN701's first test,
I had 3 or 4 math problems (two sections each). I opted to just work them quickly and focus on getting answers for everything, then go back to show my work for potential partial credit. I didn't have time to show my work on everything, and submitted with 33 seconds left. I suspect I probably spent too much time on my writing, but it all worked out.
You can just cite the article you're writing about like everything else and leave the link only in the references. There's no reason to include two links.
I did that on both of my submissions (although only one has been graded currently, obviously).
Edit: And literally all of my references (except for the textbook, which I also cite) have been online articles. I include the URLs for every one.
I did that on both of my submissions (although only one has been graded currently, obviously).
Edit: And literally all of my references (except for the textbook, which I also cite) have been online articles. I include the URLs for every one.
I wouldn't press my luck if I were you. I'm not sure why everyone was calling this teacher salty a page back, but my guess is that her general responses are unfavorable.
I've also never had a paper hit above 10% just from references. I would try to get that score down by either swapping some references out with other ones (I usually have plenty to spare), adding some more content to the main body, or some combination of the two.
It's worth calling out, however, that I believe Turnitin tries to skip bibliographies/references on documents (as indicated by document markup) and probably can't when it's submitted as a big block of plaintext.
I've also never had a paper hit above 10% just from references. I would try to get that score down by either swapping some references out with other ones (I usually have plenty to spare), adding some more content to the main body, or some combination of the two.
It's worth calling out, however, that I believe Turnitin tries to skip bibliographies/references on documents (as indicated by document markup) and probably can't when it's submitted as a big block of plaintext.
I'm not that surprised the averages for the discussion are low.
If you scroll through the posts from week 1, it seemed like a lot of people failed to use the APA format for references and a lot of people failed to include at least 3 external references. I'd guess at least 50% of posts didn't meet one or the other. There were even a few that didn't exceed 1000 words. It's not listed on the rubric, but a lot of posts didn't use the correct subject.
It's not a huge stretch to imagine that people who overlook the simple, objective items on the rubric didn't demonstrate great analysis of the concepts or otherwise submitted poor writing.
If you scroll through the posts from week 1, it seemed like a lot of people failed to use the APA format for references and a lot of people failed to include at least 3 external references. I'd guess at least 50% of posts didn't meet one or the other. There were even a few that didn't exceed 1000 words. It's not listed on the rubric, but a lot of posts didn't use the correct subject.
It's not a huge stretch to imagine that people who overlook the simple, objective items on the rubric didn't demonstrate great analysis of the concepts or otherwise submitted poor writing.
I'll try one last time since this board has moved quickly a few times; if someone could send me the FIN701 textbook I'd be very grateful.
Edit: Thanks, Socal!
Edit: Thanks, Socal!
samyn,
Both of these classes had mandatory subscription codes for the online components for me. BADM700 I had a physical textbook for the accounting portion (with Cengage code) and I didn't find a current digital copy of the finance textbook (which was only needed for a couple of chapters).
BADM701 had a Pearson MyStatLab subscription for the stats portion and a McGraw-Hill subscription for the, both of which included the texts. The Pearson stats book was inaccessible several times due to site maintenance, but I was able to extract the stats texbook PDF from their Android app (since it functionally was just a wrapper) and can share that. Their app was really awful to use.
Both of these classes had mandatory subscription codes for the online components for me. BADM700 I had a physical textbook for the accounting portion (with Cengage code) and I didn't find a current digital copy of the finance textbook (which was only needed for a couple of chapters).
BADM701 had a Pearson MyStatLab subscription for the stats portion and a McGraw-Hill subscription for the, both of which included the texts. The Pearson stats book was inaccessible several times due to site maintenance, but I was able to extract the stats texbook PDF from their Android app (since it functionally was just a wrapper) and can share that. Their app was really awful to use.
re: LSUS Online MBA Reviews
Posted by zdt on 8/7/17 at 9:04 pm to Jeaux Cool
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