Jerry ZP

why are they lying?

What proof do you have

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1. It a fricking sport and not the reason for a university.

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You'd rethink what LSU or other SEC institutions are without its football. Its identity and public image is embedded in Saturday afternoons. And its a revenue generator.

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2. We literally replace players at min every 4-5 years. How can you say they are not replaceable? A good chancellor is worth wayyyyyyy more to a university than a kid that will be in campus for a few years.

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QUALITY players are not replaceable. Without top flight talent, we are FIU or Mid Tenn State. Without talent, no one goes to the games. Without talent, we dont win. Without talent, we dont make money. Without talent we are ULL.

There are less highly skilled athletes in this whole than chancellors...their skills are easier to find than top flight athletes.

Tip of the ice berg.


What happens if Bama players walk out?

Players largely arent there for the "traditions" and fraternal activities of these institutions (ones in which you and I participate in)--- they were largely kept out for years on years. They are there to play for Nick Saban, get ready for the NFL, and get a quality education if allowed to.

They dont need the fan base, regardless of what we think. If they feel like they can achieve their goals in an environment more inclusive, then they'll stop coming to Bama and the likes, and the coaches will stop coming here because they'll realize they cant coach there.

We're kidding ourselves with we dont think this climate has empowered others to act out.

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100% without a doubt I would give up season tickets and never attend another LSU game in my life.

LSU would never see another dime from me.

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I respect you for your honesty.

I respect you for saying you care more about your entertainment and potentially the source of your entertainments humanity.

I dont respect you as a person though.

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I had a guy connected to the situation tell me some inside stuff and there's much more to the situation than what people know. But it all comes back to money.

Here's what I was told fwiw.

Missouri loses Saturday night. After the game, there are several racially charged incidents between fans and players. The locker room turned very negative to the fan base and they decided to throw in with the grad student guy who they were friends with.

From what I was told, there was not much of a division in the locker room including Pinkle and everyone agreed to it. I know the story said there was division. IDK. Anyway, the players start striking.

The NCAA attorneys approach several institutions at Missouri and tell them they're free to forfeit the game Saturday but they advise them the forfeiture will cost the school north of 3 million. At that time the school decided they were going to get rid of Wolfe.

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Interesting. Money always speaks and Football is the cash crop. Not surprised.

That racial incident sounds like something I could see going on at any LSU school.

Contrary to what many fans think, some of our players see themselves as people first and not football players. They comment on how they know their football playing status effectively shields them from some of the racial shite other students endure. Now that the floodgates are open, and players are emboldened, I worry because all it will take is a couple drunk fans, rantards, or SEC frat boys to ignite the flames. All it will take is one more slightly more offensive frat boy banner at a frat house, and then we will be caught up in this shite storm.

How do we stop this from going own? Im in a way, very glad that the banner came out before this missouri stuff became national news.

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LSU players have goals for the next level. They would play

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But I'm sure there are many prospects on Mizzou's team as well. Sometimes there are causes true to a person that are more important to them than playing a game.

I'm curious as to whether or not SEC coaches have sat down with their superiors and teams and discussed this situation. We would be silly to think that a situation like the mizzou situation couldnt pop up at an SEC school, especially with our past history. How do you think Les Miles or another coach should address this situation? Imagine this happening at BAMA or Ole Miss -- the college football world would turn upside down.

I think coaches should have gone to the players and asked them to address there concerns. The coach needs to volunteer himself to the players and have open ears to them. Once he does that, take their issues to the president and his board. Here they can figure out a way to implement and broker the necessary changes needed to PREVENT this from happening at a lower level. The last thing we all need is another mizzou. I'm not talking about pandering to all the students-athletes concerns, but implementing necessary and appropriate institutions that will eventually benefit the whole student body. Nothing is lost from being more inclusive and attentive to the needs of your money generators. This, in my eyes, is the only way, in this current climate, to keep these situations at bay. The athletes now know they have more power than anyone on campus, and they are emboldened. It would benefit everyone if the LEADERS LED and took the initiative to advance their campus. There is nothing lost by being inclusive, unless you dont think these are partnerships (but you think they are power struggles).

This way, the president and coach look proactive, and we avoid the situation going on at mizzou. I would pray for this to not happen at the alma mater, but I could see it happening. We arent immune to the struggles the missouri students have noted.

They are suggesting that

black =/= wealthy, but if black = wealthy, then black person =/= black person :lol:

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Politically? Yes.

The 2016 POTUS election will show the black vote 93% for Hillary as it would be for any Democrat.

The White vote will split as will the Asian and Hispanic votes. Blacks, though, 90%+.

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We dont have a shared history.

As a white conservative male, in the south, we are pretty monolithic. I forget the actual stats, but it isnt far off. Does that say we make our own decisions or not?

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Hey, a-hole, the problems in black society are because of their allegiance to the Democrat party. The Democrat Party destroyed the black family in exchange for votes. You have repayed your new masters well with the voting block but have gotten nothing in return but misery

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Okay, Im not black :lol:

But even as white conservative male, you and I know we arent pandering to anything they want or need. Why would they run to us? Is there any inclination that they'd be better off running red, even as we spew openly xenophobic rhetoric towards them and other minority groups?

I'm all for conservative ideals and policies, but we're doing our damnest to tell others they arent welcomed. Once we climb that bridge and adapt, we'll be set and in control