Nikon just released the best digital stills camera ever

Well, at that price I think I'll just buy two

You can shoot low raw. Something like 11mp

And they released this just after the eclipse.

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also heard Nikon will release a full frame mirroress later in the year. Now that would be incredible if hey do it right.

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Yeah their mirrorless offerings in the past failed but I too would be really interested


I went mirrorless an love the Electronic viewfinder on my fuji. You see exactly what your image will look like.

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Sony is developing the full frames of the future, high quality mirrorless. The A9 is stunning

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in mirrorless you don't actually "see" through the optics when looking through the viewfinder. You see an electronic visual representation, correct?

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he D850 went on sale today.

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Saw an ad for it. Kinda moved.

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Clearly the 5DM4 was the better camera and the 50 Mp of the 5DS pulled in more info, but it was noisy and lacked depth

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Generally what happens when you pack pixels into the same size sensor. Larger pixels >> smaller pixels if all else are equal

Yep after doing some research I'm no longer wowed by spec sheets.

I was with a defense contractor client performing evaluations of the Sony A7s II vs. the Canon ME20F-SH for a military surveillance video application at 3:40 in the morning in the mountains of Oregon where we were shooting an SUV stopped on a mountain road, no lights, and various items scattered around the vehicle all from a distance of 75+/- yards. Requirement was for 30 fps. Lenses were Sigma 20mm ART, both cameras set at 1/20, f/1.4.

At 200,000 ISO, the Sony appeared slightly better, but neither had the level of detail required under starlight. At only 128,000 ISO, the Sony already had seriously bad magenta heat fringing all around the edges bleeding into lots of horizontal magenta banding and extreme noise. The Canon looked very clear and with usable information. However, as we cranked up ISO to 256,000, the Sony was giving more info, but the magenta problem got worse. At 407,000, the magenta color problem, horizontal banding and noise from Sony was so bad it was unusable, but the Canon started popping out detail, like the road surface, the items around the SUV and and colors.

At ISO 574,000, we could start making out the width of the road, looking into the SUV, greater detail in the Milky Way, where the bottom of the vehicle was separated from the ground below, etc.

At ISO 811,000 we could make out the wisps of clouds in the night sky and see the power lines on telephone poles nearby. At ISO 1,620,000, we could make out the driver, the rims on the wheels, and the edge details for the items around the SUV.

At ISO 2,290,000 it started getting a little noisy, but we were able to create a completely usable image, with good definition, enough to clearly define what might be going on, but not enough to create facial recognition. At ISO 3,230,00 the night sky was exceedingly bright but we could see into the vehicle enough to define the differences between the right and left areas of the vehicle.

For fun, we removed the Sigma lens and replaced it with a 400mm Canon lens at f/2.8 and cranked the shutter speed down to 1/4 with ISO 2,290,000. That allowed us to make out the color of the driver, his shirt color, the license plate, the vehicle color, and there was more than enough info there to produce facial recognition. Under starlight. Amazing camera, but it does not provide frame capture. That has to be done in post editing. That said, we shot the video in Canon Log, so when we did our post editing, the level of color, contrast and detail that came out was pretty incredible.

Great camera if you need to shoot video in the dark or dark conditions. Pretty much an industrial camera, though. Surprised that the sensor doesn't come under ITAR-like regulations because I've looked at products, like EBAPS, that are also very good in the dark, and the government regulates where it can be sold outside the U.S. to keep it out of the hands of the bad guys.

I would love to get a fuji xt-20 or soemthing similar for a travel camera. I love their lenses and they're button layout is second to none. I agree on their lenses also.

It still can't hold a candle to Nikon's glass selection out there though. FF sake I can buy the same 180mm prime that Stanley Kubrick used on numerous of his movies for under $300. You just can't beat that.