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re: Why does Klopp get a pass regarding how he handles domestic cups?
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:34 pm to jordan21210
Posted on 2/7/20 at 12:34 pm to jordan21210
So not so different. He didn’t even try to beat Everton.
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Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:29 pm to djsdawg
Yes he did
He played first team players, it was rotation players with some youngsters in it.
That’s not the same as a full u23 squad with out him even on the touch line.
He played first team players, it was rotation players with some youngsters in it.
That’s not the same as a full u23 squad with out him even on the touch line.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:31 pm to McCaigBro69
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It’s two freaking matches
Yes but the CWC is sort of what started this whole debacle in the first place when we had to play a game in Qatar 12/17 and a game at Villa 12/18. It’s just the schedule congestion in general.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:33 pm to djsdawg
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So not so different. He didn’t even try to beat Everton.
As mentioned, we had some first team guys playing in that match. And also Chelsea are a bit more in form than Everton...that’s putting it nicely.
I just don’t see Klopp trotting out another U23 squad this time around.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Yes he did
He played first team players, it was rotation players with some youngsters in it.
That’s not the same as a full u23 squad with out him even on the touch line.
Gomez was the only starting 11 that played in the game.
5 guys who started that game also started the shrewsbury game.
If you want to call that trying, I am not going to agree.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 1:52 pm to jordan21210
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And also Chelsea are a bit more in form than Everton...that’s putting it nicely.
You sure? Everton hadn’t lost in a month going into that game, outside of man city, which included a strong win over Chelsea, and are only 8 points down to Chelsea right now. Klopp still chose a much weaker squad to play in that game.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:15 pm to djsdawg
Chelsea haven’t played well lately, but still think overall they are a more troubling side than Everton. They’ve been near the top of the PL consistently all season. Everton dabbled in the relegation zone for a while.
Also, look at that lineup vs Everton again. There was some youth but it was majority first team guys: Adrian, Gomez, Milner, Lallana, Origi, Minamino. Ox subbed in and Henderson and Mane were also both available.
Also, look at that lineup vs Everton again. There was some youth but it was majority first team guys: Adrian, Gomez, Milner, Lallana, Origi, Minamino. Ox subbed in and Henderson and Mane were also both available.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:49 pm to djsdawg
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Gomez was the only starting 11 that played in the game.
5 guys who started that game also started the shrewsbury game.
If you want to call that trying, I am not going to agree.
If you play first team members that’s trying
Posted on 2/7/20 at 2:58 pm to jordan21210
Everton was trash early, but has been better than Chelsea since we thrashed them in December.
We essentially mixed 5 kids in with 5 backups in that game. Heck, It was mini’s first ever game for us. That’s not trying to win.
We essentially mixed 5 kids in with 5 backups in that game. Heck, It was mini’s first ever game for us. That’s not trying to win.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 3:13 pm to djsdawg
So you think Klopp wasn’t trying to win a derby 
We put that squad out bc of holiday fixture congestion not because he didn’t want to win.
And since depth is still an issue his style of play is very taxing
We put that squad out bc of holiday fixture congestion not because he didn’t want to win.
And since depth is still an issue his style of play is very taxing
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 3:23 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Laugh all you want to, but the lineup in that game supports my claim.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 3:28 pm to djsdawg
You are an idiot
You been posting nonsense but this takes the cake
If Klopp flat out tried to not win a match vs Everton the locals would be going nuts
Was it a full strength squad ? No but it was competitive enough especially with the holiday fixture congestion
You been posting nonsense but this takes the cake
If Klopp flat out tried to not win a match vs Everton the locals would be going nuts
Was it a full strength squad ? No but it was competitive enough especially with the holiday fixture congestion
Posted on 2/7/20 at 3:51 pm to StraightCashHomey21
You have been reduced to nonsensical trash talk for days now, and it’s not getting any better.
If that lineup vs Everton was a mix of backups and starters, you would have a point, but it was a mix of kids and backups instead. That is very weak and you trying to argue otherwise makes you look clueless.
If that lineup vs Everton was a mix of backups and starters, you would have a point, but it was a mix of kids and backups instead. That is very weak and you trying to argue otherwise makes you look clueless.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:03 pm to djsdawg
Back ups are still first team players
You don’t play first team guys in an attempt to not win. They are professionals who want to compete
To argue otherwise is absurd
The only point was Klopp didn’t prioritize that match due to the league matches around it
To say he tried to not win is fricking dumb
You don’t play first team guys in an attempt to not win. They are professionals who want to compete
To argue otherwise is absurd
The only point was Klopp didn’t prioritize that match due to the league matches around it
To say he tried to not win is fricking dumb
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:14 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I never said backups weren’t first team. You just suck at reading.
Here are the 4 basic squad choices:
1. full strength
2. backups mixed with starters
3. Backups mixed with kids
4. All kids
Klopp went with a 3 in Everton FA cup. He sat all the stars, and replaced many of them with kids, which you don’t do when you want to win badly. He wouldn’t have done that if that were an EPL game.
Here are the 4 basic squad choices:
1. full strength
2. backups mixed with starters
3. Backups mixed with kids
4. All kids
Klopp went with a 3 in Everton FA cup. He sat all the stars, and replaced many of them with kids, which you don’t do when you want to win badly. He wouldn’t have done that if that were an EPL game.
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:17 pm to djsdawg
It was definitely a "if we win, great. If not, still great" line up.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:18 pm to djsdawg
Your stance is he tried to throw a derby match
He didn’t prioritize it due to fixture congestion
Your claim he tried not win is flat out stupid
He didn’t prioritize it due to fixture congestion
Your claim he tried not win is flat out stupid
This post was edited on 2/7/20 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:20 pm to pvilleguru
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was definitely a "if we win, great. If not, still great" line up.
Yea it’s a line up saying I have to league matches on either side of this and I can’t run my squad into the ground
Not I’m trying not win
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:27 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Your stance is he tried to throw a derby match
Nope. No wonder you are looking like a fool.
Posted on 2/7/20 at 4:29 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I think y'all are kind of arguing about semantics. No, he didn't try to "throw" the game, but most people would agree that a line up with half back ups/half kids is a sign that you aren't really trying to win.
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