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Thread, Anchored/Whacked by Tiger Ree: "Do-you-wish-we-had-tom-herman-now ?/79254410/"
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 10/7/18 at 10:16 pm
Fake News Alert: Ree & Buckeye Jeaux say IGNORE!!
When Tom Herman was winning early, Tiger Ree popped into a "What Could Have Been" muse Scoreboard Thread about Herman and went off like a crazed ranter, spewing sarcastic vitriol about Herman like he does Jimbo.
I have not posted much in a while because what point would it serve to challenge the Status Epilepticus of 5-0/#5 frenzy?
Ree then boasted that he had anchored my thread and called me a Dumbfrick for posting "all that for nothing"...Fake News, HaHa. Then a couple people added to it and he Whacked it.
Ree, Refrain from calling other Posters DUMBfricks. Also, Anchoring threads and getting them deleted is a real insecure, lowlife move on your part. Hang in there little buddy and get a grip rather than a gripe.
____________ The Deleted Thread:
We have never had a QB Coach after Jimbo. He and Saban resurrected LSU to the NC title in 2003 (w/Emmert/Bertman facilitation). Saban and Jimbo grew up 20 miles apart in WVA's 'cradle of Coaching. They are making the SEC great and they belong to LSU.
QB has changed because of 2010 Cam Newton. 2011 GOC was the pinnacle of Defensive SEC football. All 23 Defensive players on each side of the ball were drafted, including 1st Rounder Eric Reid. The season opened with #4 LSU vs #3 Oregon and Chavis directed a master class in 'never sacrifice size for speed. Mathieu, perfect example, scored the 1st TD of the year with a Strip/Scoop/Score. He, without a family, had to dodge inner city bullets like LF7 to get to LSU, both almost shot like Perrilloux was. #IMWITHKAP.
Reid Repping the DBU...and whoa look at those Black Panthers!! FYI All DBs are Black/Arfo-Americans, not a single White one has started since 2002: 75% of NFL is Black.
NFL owners have decided that kneeling will not be tolerated. But of course, as 100% wealthy white guys, police brutality and racial discrimination don’t affect them the same way as Kaepernick and his fellow African-American players.
Damn, Reid is Playing for the Black Panthers!!!
Now the paradigm is DTQB/RPO/Tempo and scoring. Saban learned his lesson in 2014 from Herman who beat him with Ohio State's 3rd string QB, Cardale Jones, making his 3rd start going 3-0 NC. and then Tajh Boyd & Deshaun Watson. Throw in Jimbo/Jameis Winston, Mariotta, Kiffin/Sims/Coker and you get Tua/Hurts and no one is beating Bama in the SECWest until Jimbo has another year to recruit.
The SEC is populated with the only 4 NC Coaches & their Assistants now that Miles is gone: Jimbo, Meyer, Saban, and Dabo. O, Aranda, Ensminger are good ole boyz that Alleva "I am the search" had on Staff. A shot of whiskey and he fired an NC Coach and went cheap and lazy. Alleva promised an Offensive Coach like Herman and Fisher and did not ante up. When the SECN pays out 40+ million/yr and rising, no excuse to go cheap and keep putting our DBs in the NFL.
This just a MEME/Satire..like Les "Better to be the Hammer than the Nail" Miles.
A year ago today the program was going into the FLA game unranked after historic losses to Troy and State and Alleva and Orgeron were tetering. Alleva called a meeting saying " you guys are going to get me fired".
O said he and Canada left the meeting having buried the hatchet....
When Tom Herman was winning early, Tiger Ree popped into a "What Could Have Been" muse Scoreboard Thread about Herman and went off like a crazed ranter, spewing sarcastic vitriol about Herman like he does Jimbo.
I have not posted much in a while because what point would it serve to challenge the Status Epilepticus of 5-0/#5 frenzy?
Ree then boasted that he had anchored my thread and called me a Dumbfrick for posting "all that for nothing"...Fake News, HaHa. Then a couple people added to it and he Whacked it.
Ree, Refrain from calling other Posters DUMBfricks. Also, Anchoring threads and getting them deleted is a real insecure, lowlife move on your part. Hang in there little buddy and get a grip rather than a gripe.
____________ The Deleted Thread:
We have never had a QB Coach after Jimbo. He and Saban resurrected LSU to the NC title in 2003 (w/Emmert/Bertman facilitation). Saban and Jimbo grew up 20 miles apart in WVA's 'cradle of Coaching. They are making the SEC great and they belong to LSU.
QB has changed because of 2010 Cam Newton. 2011 GOC was the pinnacle of Defensive SEC football. All 23 Defensive players on each side of the ball were drafted, including 1st Rounder Eric Reid. The season opened with #4 LSU vs #3 Oregon and Chavis directed a master class in 'never sacrifice size for speed. Mathieu, perfect example, scored the 1st TD of the year with a Strip/Scoop/Score. He, without a family, had to dodge inner city bullets like LF7 to get to LSU, both almost shot like Perrilloux was. #IMWITHKAP.
Reid Repping the DBU...and whoa look at those Black Panthers!! FYI All DBs are Black/Arfo-Americans, not a single White one has started since 2002: 75% of NFL is Black.
NFL owners have decided that kneeling will not be tolerated. But of course, as 100% wealthy white guys, police brutality and racial discrimination don’t affect them the same way as Kaepernick and his fellow African-American players.
Damn, Reid is Playing for the Black Panthers!!!
Now the paradigm is DTQB/RPO/Tempo and scoring. Saban learned his lesson in 2014 from Herman who beat him with Ohio State's 3rd string QB, Cardale Jones, making his 3rd start going 3-0 NC. and then Tajh Boyd & Deshaun Watson. Throw in Jimbo/Jameis Winston, Mariotta, Kiffin/Sims/Coker and you get Tua/Hurts and no one is beating Bama in the SECWest until Jimbo has another year to recruit.
The SEC is populated with the only 4 NC Coaches & their Assistants now that Miles is gone: Jimbo, Meyer, Saban, and Dabo. O, Aranda, Ensminger are good ole boyz that Alleva "I am the search" had on Staff. A shot of whiskey and he fired an NC Coach and went cheap and lazy. Alleva promised an Offensive Coach like Herman and Fisher and did not ante up. When the SECN pays out 40+ million/yr and rising, no excuse to go cheap and keep putting our DBs in the NFL.
This just a MEME/Satire..like Les "Better to be the Hammer than the Nail" Miles.
A year ago today the program was going into the FLA game unranked after historic losses to Troy and State and Alleva and Orgeron were tetering. Alleva called a meeting saying " you guys are going to get me fired".
O said he and Canada left the meeting having buried the hatchet....
quote:
Orgeron is 3-2 through five games this season, with a blowout loss to a mediocre Mississippi State team, its first non-conference home loss since 2000 and a narrow win over sputtering Syracuse. It’s the tenor of the results that are most troubling, as LSU inexplicably lacks the passion, fire and intensity that turned Orgeron into a caricature. “They don’t play hard,” a veteran college coach texted after watching the Troy debacle on Saturday night. “Troy was more physical!” Yahoo Sports conducted a half-dozen interviews last week with coaches, scouts and analysts who played LSU or studied them extensively this season. The results came back alarmingly consistent, an ugly autopsy that pinpointed all the things you wouldn’t expect from an Orgeron team: lack of effort, uninspired play at the line of scrimmage and a penchant to quit when things get tough. No one expected Orgeron to be an X’s and O’s savant or a visionary program builder. Expensive coordinators Matt Canada and Dave Aranda were given lucrative contracts to handle the details of the program. Orgeron’s job was to be the Cajun Dabo, delivering mojo, recruiting juice and motivation. Instead, the scary reality is that these Tigers don’t have any of the traits long associated without Orgeron. Somehow, the coach famous for his growl has a program with no bite. “It wasn’t what you expect,” said one assistant coach. “You expect guys ready to kick your arse. There wasn’t any fire. Genetically they weren’t as good. On film, they weren’t as good. But these guys, I don’t know. These guys, I don’t even know what to say. I can’t believe they play the way they do. They’re soft. Soft. It doesn’t make sense.” Added another personnel executive: “When everything got super tough against Mississippi State, they tapped out. State was giving it to them and they didn’t want any piece of it. They were tapping out the entire game.”
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Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 1/10/17 at 6:58 pm
Watson: "We we worked on that Pick All Year" ... And it was perfectly legal
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 1/10/17 at 11:15 am
Yes, Clemson ran a ‘pick play’ to beat Alabama. But it was totally legal.
Watson’s on-field interview. “All we needed was a good pick by [wide receiver Artavis Scott], and Tave picked him, and Renfrow got in the end zone,” Watson said, as confetti rained down. “… It was something we’ve worked on all year long, and it was a perfect time to call it.”
So-called pick plays, sometimes referred to as “rub routes” in certain situations, have become a staple of NFL and college football, especially near the goal line.
Watson’s on-field interview. “All we needed was a good pick by [wide receiver Artavis Scott], and Tave picked him, and Renfrow got in the end zone,” Watson said, as confetti rained down. “… It was something we’ve worked on all year long, and it was a perfect time to call it.”
So-called pick plays, sometimes referred to as “rub routes” in certain situations, have become a staple of NFL and college football, especially near the goal line.
Foster & Brown should have been ejected in the 1st Qtr - 2 Targeting Fouls Each
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 1/10/17 at 12:59 am
Without Foster swinging and hitting Watson in the head in the 1st Qtr and then launching and hitting him when he was already in the grip of 2 tacklers...and Brown targeting Williams twice Clemson would have beaten Bama by 5 TDs. It took Watson 2 Qtrs to clear his head and Williams missed about half the game. Phuk Saban and his dirty players. And, if a WR has ALA beaten they just level him with a vicious hit and take a 15 yd penalty from the LOS, this is not PI - that should be an ejection and the ball at the spot of the flagrant foul plus 15 yds. Plus the refs stopped play too many times and stopped Clemson Tempo.
Foster was flagged with a personal foul penalty while some thought the hit should have been considered targeting. Either way, that's the type of penalty Alabama is willing to live with. Saban had Foster send a message that slowed Watson for the rest of the game. Fifteen yards is something the coaches will take as a result. Dirty play is Saban's calling card.
LINK
The lack of consistency involving targeting has been maddening all season. In the previous drive, Alabama quarterback Jalen Hurts drew a roughing the passer penalty on Clemson from a slap to his helmet. That penalty was nowhere as egregious as either Foster’s clothesline or Averett’s demolition of Williams.
Foster wearing a Cowboy Collar knocks LSU Fournette out of game in 2014. Foster's trademark.
Foster was flagged with a personal foul penalty while some thought the hit should have been considered targeting. Either way, that's the type of penalty Alabama is willing to live with. Saban had Foster send a message that slowed Watson for the rest of the game. Fifteen yards is something the coaches will take as a result. Dirty play is Saban's calling card.
LINK
quote:
Oh look, another missed targeting call.
The Big 12 referee crew missed two obvious targeting penalties in the first quarter of Monday night’s College Football Playoff National Championship Game as college football continues to inconsistently define targeting.
Early in the game, Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster used his forearm to nearly decapitate Clemson quarterback Deshaun Watson to the tune of no whistle.
Ouch. LINK
— Dr. Saturday (@YahooDrSaturday) January 10, 2017
Later in the quarter, as Alabama’s Anthony Averett held up Clemson receiver Mike Williams following a first-down catch, defensive back Tony Brown landed a skull-crushing hit on Clemson’s star receiver. Williams is familiar with head and spine injuries as he missed most of last season with a broken neck.
Targeting? pic.twitter.com/nFnczBbDpz
— Dr. Saturday (@YahooDrSaturday) January 10, 2017
Brown smashed an already-slowed Williams who went limp momentarily and appeared to black out. Williams fumbled the ball into his chest and recovered it as he regained consciousness. While the play was still live, Brown obviously launched himself causing head-to-head contact with Williams.
Again, no whistle.
Williams was taken off to sideline and appeared to be dazed, but returned to the field minutes later.
The lack of consistency involving targeting has been maddening all season. In the previous drive, Alabama quarterback Jalen Hurts drew a roughing the passer penalty on Clemson from a slap to his helmet. That penalty was nowhere as egregious as either Foster’s clothesline or Averett’s demolition of Williams.
Foster wearing a Cowboy Collar knocks LSU Fournette out of game in 2014. Foster's trademark.
Ryan Clark Interview: Honored to Speak to Team, Former Players More Involved
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 10/10/16 at 11:15 pm
Ryan Clark's interview on Finebaum highlights Orgeron's campaign to get former players more involved in the program. The 12 minute Podcast is a great listen from a man who grew up wanting to play for LSU, and the NFL. His LSU & NFL 13 yr career are remarkable:
“Once a Tiger, Always a Tiger.” Coach O is co-opting a Pete Carroll USC approach to alumni, maybe your best recruiters, where former players have open access to all team facilities and practice. This omission is so obvious that it should have never been overlooked. More than 50 alumni joined the pre-game walk. Ryan Clark and former players infuse the program with NFL experience and serve as role models. Combine this with the open exchange of coaching ideas like Tom Herman, Saban, Sweeney, and Chad Morris do along with hosting of high school coaches to re-energize our program. Many programs host high school coaches 3 hrs a day and in return they get their recruits. LF's coach tried his best to steer him to Saban and almost did. Miles promised to visit modern offensive programs with open invitations and did not. Herman says what are you hiding from? Sharing is good for the game. The hard part is paying the price for championships, set long before me, and will be the same long after me. You have to be the best, from facilities, to players, to outworking, out scheming, and outhitting everyone else.
Many of you may have caught ESPN alum Ryan Clark on Finebaum. If not here is the podcast audio link - he is in the first 12 min: LINK
2 min video excerpt: LINK
The video is out of context because you get the false impression that he thinks Orgeron should be the next Coach. Please listen to the Podcast. He is well-informed, runs an NFL training facility in Baton Rouge, trains High School athletes, and donates considerable time to LSU when not away doing his NFL ESPN analyst job. His 13 yr career includes a Super Bowl and a Pro Bowl. The Super Bowl in 2008 came 1 yr after he collapsed on the field in Denver, had emergency surgery, and lost 30 lbs. His 2010 Pro Bowl was for leading the Steelers with 100 tackles. He does a lot of community work and treats LSU as sacred, something he says all former players share.
After a 4 yr stellar career at LSU he played 13 yrs in the NFL, retiring last year with a Super Bowl. Living in Baton Rouge, he has always been around the program mentoring DBs, working with Corey Raymond, exchanging ideas and coaching tips. He said that Miles just walks by him 99.9% of the time, but all of that changed when Coach O took over and immediately invited all former LSU players to join the pre-game walk, carrying signs "Once a Tiger, Always A Tiger". In addition Asst AD Sharon Lewis who oversees Recruiting and Alumni relations asked him to speak to the team before the FLA game.
LSU interim coach Ed Orgeron’s campaign to get former players more involved in the program doesn’t stop at inviting them to practice and the traditional walk down Victory Hill.
He said Coach O is "one of Us, the LSU Family", and that he has reunited the LSU alumni Family, the fans, the school, and the community. O has opened practices and facilities to former players who think of LSU football as something they help build and maintain with work and donations.
He commended Miles for his service to the program and LSU family but explained that there has been a disconnect with former players. As an NFL analyst he was once asked what would be his dream job after football and he said to be the 1st Black HC at LSU. He then joked maybe that is why Miles doesn't talk to me. He explained that Miles does not make involving alumni players a top priority and that left a disconnect that does not help the program.
There was a lot more in the interview with the ESPN analyst including his criticism of FLA as dishonorable, cowardly, and classless. He also talked about the Coaching Search and the expectation that all of Louisiana has that Alleva will open the checkbook and get the very best Coach available, a proven leader, builder, and winner.
Some fans have overlooked the past 3 yrs and said "remember when" and settled for good when good is the enemy of great. 10-10 SECW, 15-11 SEC with Miles and Cam is inexcusable when you consider this is the best Roster he has had and that he has had a #2 SEC roster, #5 national Roster since 2012.
quote:
"The average NFL career lasts 3.3 years, according to the NFL Players' Association; 78 percent of players go broke within three years of retirement and 15.7 percent file for bankruptcy within 12 years of leaving the league, according to a paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research."
“Once a Tiger, Always a Tiger.” Coach O is co-opting a Pete Carroll USC approach to alumni, maybe your best recruiters, where former players have open access to all team facilities and practice. This omission is so obvious that it should have never been overlooked. More than 50 alumni joined the pre-game walk. Ryan Clark and former players infuse the program with NFL experience and serve as role models. Combine this with the open exchange of coaching ideas like Tom Herman, Saban, Sweeney, and Chad Morris do along with hosting of high school coaches to re-energize our program. Many programs host high school coaches 3 hrs a day and in return they get their recruits. LF's coach tried his best to steer him to Saban and almost did. Miles promised to visit modern offensive programs with open invitations and did not. Herman says what are you hiding from? Sharing is good for the game. The hard part is paying the price for championships, set long before me, and will be the same long after me. You have to be the best, from facilities, to players, to outworking, out scheming, and outhitting everyone else.
Many of you may have caught ESPN alum Ryan Clark on Finebaum. If not here is the podcast audio link - he is in the first 12 min: LINK
2 min video excerpt: LINK
The video is out of context because you get the false impression that he thinks Orgeron should be the next Coach. Please listen to the Podcast. He is well-informed, runs an NFL training facility in Baton Rouge, trains High School athletes, and donates considerable time to LSU when not away doing his NFL ESPN analyst job. His 13 yr career includes a Super Bowl and a Pro Bowl. The Super Bowl in 2008 came 1 yr after he collapsed on the field in Denver, had emergency surgery, and lost 30 lbs. His 2010 Pro Bowl was for leading the Steelers with 100 tackles. He does a lot of community work and treats LSU as sacred, something he says all former players share. After a 4 yr stellar career at LSU he played 13 yrs in the NFL, retiring last year with a Super Bowl. Living in Baton Rouge, he has always been around the program mentoring DBs, working with Corey Raymond, exchanging ideas and coaching tips. He said that Miles just walks by him 99.9% of the time, but all of that changed when Coach O took over and immediately invited all former LSU players to join the pre-game walk, carrying signs "Once a Tiger, Always A Tiger". In addition Asst AD Sharon Lewis who oversees Recruiting and Alumni relations asked him to speak to the team before the FLA game.
LSU interim coach Ed Orgeron’s campaign to get former players more involved in the program doesn’t stop at inviting them to practice and the traditional walk down Victory Hill.
quote:Former LSU Safety Ryan Clark Speaks To Tigers ahead of FLA
Orgeron has revitalized the program since taking over for the fired Les Miles on Sept. 25. Dozens of ex-players accompanied the team on its walk to Tiger Stadium last Saturday, some holding a banner that read “Once a Tiger, Always a Tiger.”
He said Coach O is "one of Us, the LSU Family", and that he has reunited the LSU alumni Family, the fans, the school, and the community. O has opened practices and facilities to former players who think of LSU football as something they help build and maintain with work and donations.
He commended Miles for his service to the program and LSU family but explained that there has been a disconnect with former players. As an NFL analyst he was once asked what would be his dream job after football and he said to be the 1st Black HC at LSU. He then joked maybe that is why Miles doesn't talk to me. He explained that Miles does not make involving alumni players a top priority and that left a disconnect that does not help the program.
There was a lot more in the interview with the ESPN analyst including his criticism of FLA as dishonorable, cowardly, and classless. He also talked about the Coaching Search and the expectation that all of Louisiana has that Alleva will open the checkbook and get the very best Coach available, a proven leader, builder, and winner.
Some fans have overlooked the past 3 yrs and said "remember when" and settled for good when good is the enemy of great. 10-10 SECW, 15-11 SEC with Miles and Cam is inexcusable when you consider this is the best Roster he has had and that he has had a #2 SEC roster, #5 national Roster since 2012.
Brandon Harris/ LF7/ AJ Videos, Scrimmage Videos, Spring Break 4/12 Updates
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 3/27/15 at 5:46 am
4/8: Cameron: Harris has gone through a transformation this Spring: ESPN BR 104.5 Podcast
4/2: Scrimmage notes: LF7 4 TDs including swing pass from Harris, Jamal Adams 2 INTs, 1 a pick six
4/1: Tim Flecter Interviews Brandon Harris and Tre'Davious White
Harris talks about roommate DJ Chark's 4.3 speed, talent, and how LF7 is "catching everything thrown to him, making 'receiver-sick catches', catching everything."
Tre' White on Harris: "He has sort of taken control. . I feel like he is the guy who is going to make big time plays and big time throws in Tiger Stadium this year.”
3/31: LSU: Miles & Cameron see progress, little separation at QB: Cameron say Harris has Bionic Arm
At Spring Break, prolific passing from the QBs remained the most compelling story of spring practice. After Break, 11 practices and 3 closed Scrimmages, with only the Spring Game left, it is an open competition and likely will remain that way.
A tweet between Harris and Adams after the 4/2 scrimmage.
In his 3rd scrimmage recap he praised both QBs rapid growth: 3/28 Scrimmage 3: Miles Praises QBs, Still Looking for Separation Per Miles, as of 3/28 he has not seen separation between the two, still an open and undecided competition:
Post practice March 26th: A confident Brandon Harris refused to take off his pads after a day with no INTs 'where everybody caught a touchdown'. He talks throwing passes to spread receivers "Like a kid in a Candy Store", greatly improved strength, footwork, his fast wrist speed, ability to wrist flick a 60 yd+ pass, progressions, opening up the run game with 8 WRs, soon to be 12, TEs, and check downs to the RBs, running the offense with an effortless feel. He praised Cameron for working him hard, mentoring him, answering his questions and believes he is one of the best OC's, if not the best in the FBS. A nagging mild high-ankle sprain suffered in the AUB game is completely healed.
In the first scrimmage Harris reported having 4 passing and 2 rushing TDs, and a 4 TD per scrimmage average. His favorite pass is the 56 yd TD to DJ Chark, who is having a great year, having caught at least 5 TD passes in 3 scrimmages. Throwing a lot of TDs, with no TOs and not missing a check at the line of scrimmage since the ONE at AUB, the offense is really improving. He said that he and AJ are completely different in abilities and the coaches put each one in the best situation to succeed, to accentuate their strengths, and build an explosive and balanced offense. He and AJ are both being worked hard. He is only in competition with himself to be the best he can be. He played well in Tiger Stadium last year, enjoys watching the NMSU game where he went 7 for 7, and that the Auburn game has been motivation for everyone. Regarding off-field development, "I don't get in trouble, my Dad (Diesel) would kill me", but said he stays in the playbook, film study, and over-utilizes coaches and past QBs, and other experts, asking for help improving, wishing he could have spent a year with Mett or a 5th year senior QB. It would be okay if Miles never mentioned his name because he is happy with improving and confident about the year.
Brandon gets the nod in the first, Miles, being deceptively honest, supposedly flatly stated that AJ was Crisper and more productive in the second. Well, when you listen to and transcribe the presser after the second scrimmage, the first mostly live contact scrimmage for the QBs, it is not so clear nor does it correlate with the Harris interview:
3/21: Miles Breaks Down QB Play in Second Scrimmge
Spring Football Day 1: Les Miles Full Post-Practice Press Conference - We are going to throw the ball a lot
4/2: Scrimmage notes: LF7 4 TDs including swing pass from Harris, Jamal Adams 2 INTs, 1 a pick six
4/1: Tim Flecter Interviews Brandon Harris and Tre'Davious White
Harris talks about roommate DJ Chark's 4.3 speed, talent, and how LF7 is "catching everything thrown to him, making 'receiver-sick catches', catching everything."
Tre' White on Harris: "He has sort of taken control. . I feel like he is the guy who is going to make big time plays and big time throws in Tiger Stadium this year.”
3/31: LSU: Miles & Cameron see progress, little separation at QB: Cameron say Harris has Bionic Arm
quote:
The quarterbacks "got over a hurdle" in Saturday's scrimmage by combining for six touchdown passes, many through extremely tight windows. It was the best scrimmage showing since former Tigers quarterback Zach Mettenberger fired five consecutive touchdowns in a 2012 workout.
"They are ascending at a rapid level," Cameron said. Improved footwork and more confident decision-making from Jennings, who is driving his throws better. Harris is "a little bit more explosive", but has had to sync up his footwork with his strong arm", which he called BIONIC. For the first time in his life, he's having to learn how to anticipate and his anticipation has improved dramatically."
At Spring Break, prolific passing from the QBs remained the most compelling story of spring practice. After Break, 11 practices and 3 closed Scrimmages, with only the Spring Game left, it is an open competition and likely will remain that way.
A tweet between Harris and Adams after the 4/2 scrimmage. In his 3rd scrimmage recap he praised both QBs rapid growth: 3/28 Scrimmage 3: Miles Praises QBs, Still Looking for Separation Per Miles, as of 3/28 he has not seen separation between the two, still an open and undecided competition:
quote:
Scrimmage 3: (How does the QB battle this year look different from last year?) It’s year two they have really kind of been through it now and we expect more out of them. We expect them to not only execute the offense, their play, but also give us experience at the play caller, understand where we want to go, what we are supposed to do, and you know just a little heightened expectation (Are you seeing that?) Yeah, oh yeah. (What will tell you they are really better than they were last year?) I already know they are better than they were last year. But to find a real quality QB and have separation from one to the other, that’s what I am looking for, and you know, I am, I am not necessarily seeing that, and I think that the turn of the day, when one day it is certainly Anthony Jennings, that has probably performed better on more days, and then other days you know it’s been Brandon Harris
Post practice March 26th: A confident Brandon Harris refused to take off his pads after a day with no INTs 'where everybody caught a touchdown'. He talks throwing passes to spread receivers "Like a kid in a Candy Store", greatly improved strength, footwork, his fast wrist speed, ability to wrist flick a 60 yd+ pass, progressions, opening up the run game with 8 WRs, soon to be 12, TEs, and check downs to the RBs, running the offense with an effortless feel. He praised Cameron for working him hard, mentoring him, answering his questions and believes he is one of the best OC's, if not the best in the FBS. A nagging mild high-ankle sprain suffered in the AUB game is completely healed.
In the first scrimmage Harris reported having 4 passing and 2 rushing TDs, and a 4 TD per scrimmage average. His favorite pass is the 56 yd TD to DJ Chark, who is having a great year, having caught at least 5 TD passes in 3 scrimmages. Throwing a lot of TDs, with no TOs and not missing a check at the line of scrimmage since the ONE at AUB, the offense is really improving. He said that he and AJ are completely different in abilities and the coaches put each one in the best situation to succeed, to accentuate their strengths, and build an explosive and balanced offense. He and AJ are both being worked hard. He is only in competition with himself to be the best he can be. He played well in Tiger Stadium last year, enjoys watching the NMSU game where he went 7 for 7, and that the Auburn game has been motivation for everyone. Regarding off-field development, "I don't get in trouble, my Dad (Diesel) would kill me", but said he stays in the playbook, film study, and over-utilizes coaches and past QBs, and other experts, asking for help improving, wishing he could have spent a year with Mett or a 5th year senior QB. It would be okay if Miles never mentioned his name because he is happy with improving and confident about the year.
Brandon gets the nod in the first, Miles, being deceptively honest, supposedly flatly stated that AJ was Crisper and more productive in the second. Well, when you listen to and transcribe the presser after the second scrimmage, the first mostly live contact scrimmage for the QBs, it is not so clear nor does it correlate with the Harris interview:
3/21: Miles Breaks Down QB Play in Second Scrimmge
quote:
Miles: 130 play scrimmage, live tackle, we had the QBs live for the most part….At QB I think both guys are continuing to come, but uh, I think today, uh, uhhh, Jennings, uh, you know, probably just a little bit more productive overall, and uh, uh, eh uh…..I think the QBs are still in a, um, very competitive position amongst each other. To be honest with you I think, uh, Justin, uh, McMillan had a nice day today, thought he uh, made uh, a couple of very, very nice plays early on in the scrimmage and really right on through, so..(What did Jennings do out there that you really liked?) He just, he just, you know pretty crisp with his passes, you know threw a couple of TD passes, things like that (Do you think this spring he is playing with any more of a chip on his shoulder?) I think it is a very competitive spring. I think we are putting a lot in on them, and uh, I uh, you know I think that there is a, uh, I think that it is a good competition (How did Brandon do today?) Umm, statistically I’m not really familiar, nor do I really need to be, but uh, umm, eh you know, made some really big plays, both with feet and his hands, I mean throws, but uh, and still, you know, not as productive, and you know, uh, when you get to the film, and you know when you rotate guys, you wonder, you know, uh, was the route exactly the way it was supposed to be, you know do we have a protection issue, did he have to scramble to get it off, you know, all those pieces that you put together once you get, uh, you know film study, so uh, uh, not as, not as,uh, I think he is more capable than what he showed today.
Spring Football Day 1: Les Miles Full Post-Practice Press Conference - We are going to throw the ball a lot
Repost of Broken Video Link: Brandon Harris' TD To DJ Chark On Saturday
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 3/19/15 at 6:20 pm
LINK This is a repost of the video if you missed it when it first posted a few days ago on Mar 17th. Within less than a day the link was taken down and the video could not be found anywhere. 3000 people have viewed the repost and/or downloaded it in the past 12 hours. Enjoy if you missed it.
(Click on Link and download and save it if you want to restore full screen hi-res, slo-mo, pause, and to use frame by frame vs the clock in a media player)
This play is DJ Shark's (pronunciation) first pass & TD and he gets to flash his superior speed to shake off KTII on a perfect strike that hits him in full stride. Harris throws from the 32 and DJ hauls it in on the 12 so you have the ball traveling ~56 yds in just over 2 seconds or in the range of 52-56 mph which is NFL speed for a long throw. The record is 59-60 mph for shorter passes. It would be really interesting to know how many WR's were lined up, etc., as the defense looked spread out. Miles had to jump back 5 yds, but he really got to see and hear that pass whistle down the wire.
Harris has a cannon. He has a quick release, is a strong, fast runner, has good balance, and makes quick reads and accurate throws on the run - all qualities of a good dual threat QB. That means more explosive offensive passing plays utilizing 3+WR sets, which will spread the defense and open up the run game in a modern, balanced, attack. Miles has even mentioned the offense is functioning better using more pace...there is certainly a lot of untapped tactical potential there.
Slowing down the original video, 1 second to look left, 1 second to run left, 1 second to spin and reverse back, 1 second to stop, locate a receiver, 1/2 sec to set up and fire a 56 yd pass.
DJ is the same size and wt as KTII, 6'2" 185, but he has been timed at 4.4 and KT 4.57. There is a lot of receiver talent and speed and Tony Ball says he is focused on building their confidence. That play was a confidence builder for DJ and Harris.
Leo Jefferson wants son to go somewhere else, coaching issues
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 2/6/15 at 12:13 am
CeCe Jefferson's father tells Gainesville Sun "I want CeCe to go somewhere else"
"You tell the Gainesville Sun that he isn't going to fax it in. I won't let him.""I’m a die-hard Gator fan, but personally, I want CeCe to go somewhere else," Jefferson said. "I wanted to get him away from home. I didn’t want him in Gainesville, to tell you the truth."
CeCe Jefferson saga continues: Father details Florida coaches' alleged recruiting mistakes
The Jeffersons didn't know that Terrell Williams was leaving.
The in-home visit paled in comparison to the other in home visits, according to Leo.
"The coaches at Florida wanted the letter signed by 8:30 this morning so they could go on vacation," Leo said. Leo added, "They aren't going on vacation anytime soon because we're not sending that letter".
Leo also mentioned concern about Gators athletic director Jeremy Foley being involved in the firing of assistant coaches and how involved he is in the program. Leo doesn't believe that McElwain will have the power at Florida that Nick Saban, Hugh Freeze, Gus Malzahn, Les Miles and others have at their schools.
"You tell the Gainesville Sun that he isn't going to fax it in. I won't let him.""I’m a die-hard Gator fan, but personally, I want CeCe to go somewhere else," Jefferson said. "I wanted to get him away from home. I didn’t want him in Gainesville, to tell you the truth."
CeCe Jefferson saga continues: Father details Florida coaches' alleged recruiting mistakes
The Jeffersons didn't know that Terrell Williams was leaving.
The in-home visit paled in comparison to the other in home visits, according to Leo.
"The coaches at Florida wanted the letter signed by 8:30 this morning so they could go on vacation," Leo said. Leo added, "They aren't going on vacation anytime soon because we're not sending that letter".
Leo also mentioned concern about Gators athletic director Jeremy Foley being involved in the firing of assistant coaches and how involved he is in the program. Leo doesn't believe that McElwain will have the power at Florida that Nick Saban, Hugh Freeze, Gus Malzahn, Les Miles and others have at their schools.
OBJ Wins AP, SNews & PFWA Off. ROY, Play of Year, Jersey in HOF
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 2/1/15 at 1:13 pm
Background: His father played football at LSU and was roommates with Shaq, and his Mother, is Heather Van Norman from Windom, Minn. Don and Millie Van Norman adopted a biracial baby girl in 1970, and Heather turned out to be the most dominant high school track star in Minnesota history. OBJ, as a baby went to class with Mother and at the age of 4 he proclaimed that he was going to play in the NFL. Nutured to be a Star
OBJ ended his rookie season with 23 Giants Franchise records and 34 NFL Rookie and Single Season records!! OBJ 54 Franchise and NFL records (at bottom of page)
OBJ ROY Acceptance Speech Thanks Landry and Hill This has been a huge week for the very humble Beckham as he picked up AP Offensive Rookie of the Year and Bridgestone Play of the Year at the NFL Honors Awards on Saturday Night. He had earlier picked up ROY from Sporting News and the Professional Football Writer's Association. He captured 42 of 50 votes for the AP award. He thanked his parents who were there with him, Heather Van Norman and Odell Sr. as well as team mates and Landry and Hill who he referred to as his LSU Royal Familia and "without them I don't know where I would be" He dedicated his "HOF Play of the Year Catch" to Landry who he said spent hours pushing each other at LSU to develop the skills to catch one-handed. That video can be found on the same link above with the acceptance speech with HD versions of these and 20 other videos here: NFL.com Off ROY Awards
Humble, team first, Odell Beckham Jr. is the most-famous football player in the country after "The Catch'' for the New York Giants on Sunday night television, a leaping, over and behind the head three finger grab while backpedaling. His "the catch" jersey is in the Hall of Fame. OBJ Jersey Display in HOF Some thought that was overkill at the time..not now. It was honored as the Play of the Year. and is being called the greatest catch in NFL history and he says it has changed his life: Things will never be the same. LINK The video has been viewed millions of times on various outlets. NFL network: Beckham captures worldwide attention
Last year, in his LSU JR year OBJ had 1152 yds and 8 TDs in 13 games. He went 12th in the draft to the Giants and suffered a double hamstring tear, missing the entire offseason, training camp, and the first four games of the year. He did not know if he would play at all this year. When he did come back in the fifth week Victor Cruz was injured leaving Beckham and Rueben Randle, two former LSU team mates to carry the load, 2 WRs in a 3 WR scheme. Randle had his best year by far, inspired by Beckham, and chipped in 938 yds and 71 receptions. OBJ caught fire over the last 12 games, becoming the first 1000 yd receiver to miss the first 3 games (he missed 4) of the season. He was also the first Giants Offensive ROY in the 58 yr history of the AP award. His season as been dubbed the best rookie season in NFL History. NY Giants List Records OBJ Set
In just 12 games, Beckham posted 91 catches, 1,305 yards, 12 touchdowns and seven 100-yard games, all records. He became the first rookie to ever run the entire route tree and his genetically huge hands, sprinters genes, and soccer-trained feet, made him an elite route runner. In his years with LSU he and Landry had competitions to see who could make the most "ridiculous" one hand catches on and off the field. Week by Week Summary of His Season
He was proud of the awards because he had overcome injury and adversity with his team mates and had wanted to win a Heisman, and a national championship at LSU, and go top 10 in the draft (he went 12th) and fell short. Beckham, 22, revealed after playing in the Pro Bowl last Sunday that he had two separate tears in his hamstring. He was never 100 percent during a rookie season where he took the NFL by storm. OBJ Goals, Accomplishments, and Multiple Awards
The Catch: OBJ Jersey and Cleats go into the Hall of Fame
His Play of the Year made him famous and changed his life. It was a 3 finger grab, back-peddling (Mom always emphasized his footwork first), circus catch that is called the greatest catch in NFL history. It sent his cleats and Jersey to the Hall of Fame. At 5'11" OBJ has larger (10" width) hands than Mike Evans who is 6'5". He also has the same size hands as Jadeveon Clowney, who is 6'6". He had some of the largest hands at the NFL Combine, former LSU team mate Jarvis Landry has 10 1/4" wide handspan but OBJ's fingers are longer and skinnier. He credits his Nike Vapor Gloves for improving receivers ability to snag catches. Catch made possible by Nike Vapor Jet 3 Gloves? Well, now Nike made him a commemorative pair LINK and the complaints from former GOAT Jerry Rice have been made fun of in this Super Bowl commercial by an 8 yr old who says OBJ is NOW the GOAT LINK
Beckham pre-game entertainer: People show up early to see what he will do next. A former soccer player, Beckham (like David), is also famous for his footwork as well as his one-handed catches during warm-ups LINK and in games, and accurate passes with either hand. He kicked a 32 yard field goal after spinning the football like a top LINK, a 47 yard field goal in pro bowl warm-ups with narrow 14' goal posts (easily long enough for 55 yd) LINK and rainbow soccer style kicks where he runs down the field and flips a football off the ground and into the air with his feet and then kicks it into the stands hands-free Rainbow Soccer Kick w/Football
OBJ ended his rookie season with 23 Giants Franchise records and 34 NFL Rookie and Single Season records!! OBJ 54 Franchise and NFL records (at bottom of page)
OBJ ROY Acceptance Speech Thanks Landry and Hill This has been a huge week for the very humble Beckham as he picked up AP Offensive Rookie of the Year and Bridgestone Play of the Year at the NFL Honors Awards on Saturday Night. He had earlier picked up ROY from Sporting News and the Professional Football Writer's Association. He captured 42 of 50 votes for the AP award. He thanked his parents who were there with him, Heather Van Norman and Odell Sr. as well as team mates and Landry and Hill who he referred to as his LSU Royal Familia and "without them I don't know where I would be" He dedicated his "HOF Play of the Year Catch" to Landry who he said spent hours pushing each other at LSU to develop the skills to catch one-handed. That video can be found on the same link above with the acceptance speech with HD versions of these and 20 other videos here: NFL.com Off ROY Awards
Humble, team first, Odell Beckham Jr. is the most-famous football player in the country after "The Catch'' for the New York Giants on Sunday night television, a leaping, over and behind the head three finger grab while backpedaling. His "the catch" jersey is in the Hall of Fame. OBJ Jersey Display in HOF Some thought that was overkill at the time..not now. It was honored as the Play of the Year. and is being called the greatest catch in NFL history and he says it has changed his life: Things will never be the same. LINK The video has been viewed millions of times on various outlets. NFL network: Beckham captures worldwide attention
Last year, in his LSU JR year OBJ had 1152 yds and 8 TDs in 13 games. He went 12th in the draft to the Giants and suffered a double hamstring tear, missing the entire offseason, training camp, and the first four games of the year. He did not know if he would play at all this year. When he did come back in the fifth week Victor Cruz was injured leaving Beckham and Rueben Randle, two former LSU team mates to carry the load, 2 WRs in a 3 WR scheme. Randle had his best year by far, inspired by Beckham, and chipped in 938 yds and 71 receptions. OBJ caught fire over the last 12 games, becoming the first 1000 yd receiver to miss the first 3 games (he missed 4) of the season. He was also the first Giants Offensive ROY in the 58 yr history of the AP award. His season as been dubbed the best rookie season in NFL History. NY Giants List Records OBJ Set
In just 12 games, Beckham posted 91 catches, 1,305 yards, 12 touchdowns and seven 100-yard games, all records. He became the first rookie to ever run the entire route tree and his genetically huge hands, sprinters genes, and soccer-trained feet, made him an elite route runner. In his years with LSU he and Landry had competitions to see who could make the most "ridiculous" one hand catches on and off the field. Week by Week Summary of His Season
He was proud of the awards because he had overcome injury and adversity with his team mates and had wanted to win a Heisman, and a national championship at LSU, and go top 10 in the draft (he went 12th) and fell short. Beckham, 22, revealed after playing in the Pro Bowl last Sunday that he had two separate tears in his hamstring. He was never 100 percent during a rookie season where he took the NFL by storm. OBJ Goals, Accomplishments, and Multiple Awards
The Catch: OBJ Jersey and Cleats go into the Hall of Fame
His Play of the Year made him famous and changed his life. It was a 3 finger grab, back-peddling (Mom always emphasized his footwork first), circus catch that is called the greatest catch in NFL history. It sent his cleats and Jersey to the Hall of Fame. At 5'11" OBJ has larger (10" width) hands than Mike Evans who is 6'5". He also has the same size hands as Jadeveon Clowney, who is 6'6". He had some of the largest hands at the NFL Combine, former LSU team mate Jarvis Landry has 10 1/4" wide handspan but OBJ's fingers are longer and skinnier. He credits his Nike Vapor Gloves for improving receivers ability to snag catches. Catch made possible by Nike Vapor Jet 3 Gloves? Well, now Nike made him a commemorative pair LINK and the complaints from former GOAT Jerry Rice have been made fun of in this Super Bowl commercial by an 8 yr old who says OBJ is NOW the GOAT LINK
Beckham pre-game entertainer: People show up early to see what he will do next. A former soccer player, Beckham (like David), is also famous for his footwork as well as his one-handed catches during warm-ups LINK and in games, and accurate passes with either hand. He kicked a 32 yard field goal after spinning the football like a top LINK, a 47 yard field goal in pro bowl warm-ups with narrow 14' goal posts (easily long enough for 55 yd) LINK and rainbow soccer style kicks where he runs down the field and flips a football off the ground and into the air with his feet and then kicks it into the stands hands-free Rainbow Soccer Kick w/Football
ESPN Momentum : "Harris' QBR #1 in the SEC, #1 FBS D-1" + top Passer Rating
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 10/1/14 at 6:15 pm
Momentum: Harris takes the top ESPN SEC ranking for QBR, and top NCAA Passer Efficiency Rating on the Road to Auburn. (#1 in FBS Div-I for QBs with more than 50 plays) Plus whenever Harris has been in the game LSU has been noticeably more efficient on both sides of the ball, scoring touchdowns in 12 of his 15 possessions. That is 84 pts in less than 3 qtrs of playing time, the highest avg scoring rate in the nation. All that while still calling plays from the sideline, except when Harris went spread option shotgun and HUNH for the last 2 min of the MSST game, almost pulling off a win. After that performance Miles is looking to go with more spread option and up tempo to let Harris make more plays with his arm and his feet, making life harder on defenses. Cam called 30 plays with at least 3 wideouts and only 8 with 2 TEs in the NM State game.
Harris defended Jennings and reminded everyone "it's going to take two quarterbacks to make this thing work this year."
3 games in the SEC West Showdown this weekend match up the top 6 SEC West teams: it is all still out there for the taking. The SEC West has the highest Power Index in history, twice as high as the SEC East but how that will stand after intense divisional play is uncertain.
ESPN Video: Harris Ranked #1 in SEC Brad Edwards, 18 yrs w/ESPN, discusses that there is no experienced "SEC road starter" at LSU and that Harris, ranked #1 in SEC QBR, has not only played better, Auburn is going to try and make LSU pass, and Harris is the better passer.
Harris' NCAA Passer Efficiency Rating is 243 and his QBR is 95.5, both top marks in the SEC.
He has 6 passing TDs and 3 rushing TDs in a little under 3 qtrs of playing time.
LSU has scored in 12 of 15 possessions w/Harris: 84 pts
Jennings' Passer Rating is 137 and his QBR is 37.4. w/ 5 passing TDs 1st 2 games, none since. He has no rushing TDs.
By comparison Prescott has the 3rd highest Passer rating at 178, and 4th highest QBR of 86, with 11 passing TDs, 3 rushing TDs.
Rating vs Ranking: Harris' NCAA Passer Rating, per Jeff Williams, NCAA's Div-1 Stats Analyst, will qualify for official ranking when he averages 15 atts/game, although any passer, even Terrance Magee's one pass generates a rating 469.
ESPN's QBR, has a higher statistical correlation with a team's AP ranking, won/loss record, and Bowl Selection. It takes into account modern spread option offenses and everything a QB does.
Harris defended Jennings and reminded everyone "it's going to take two quarterbacks to make this thing work this year."
3 games in the SEC West Showdown this weekend match up the top 6 SEC West teams: it is all still out there for the taking. The SEC West has the highest Power Index in history, twice as high as the SEC East but how that will stand after intense divisional play is uncertain.
ESPN Video: Harris Ranked #1 in SEC Brad Edwards, 18 yrs w/ESPN, discusses that there is no experienced "SEC road starter" at LSU and that Harris, ranked #1 in SEC QBR, has not only played better, Auburn is going to try and make LSU pass, and Harris is the better passer.
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"People tend to think let's go with the guy who has the most experience in a big SEC game on the road. The problem (with that argument) is although Jennings has 6 starts, 2 were at neutral sites and 4 were at home. So with no road experience edge you go with the guy who is better and Harris has clearly played better. QBR, the metric we use, to evaluate everything a QB does, rushing, passing, sacks, penalties...Brandon Harris, for guys who have a minimum of 50 action plays is ranked #1 in the SEC in QBR, Jennings is ranked 15th or last. ... Our stats show clearly Brandon Harris has played the better of the two. And Auburn is going to try to stack the line and force LSU to throw the ball and Harris is the better passer."
Harris' NCAA Passer Efficiency Rating is 243 and his QBR is 95.5, both top marks in the SEC.
He has 6 passing TDs and 3 rushing TDs in a little under 3 qtrs of playing time.
LSU has scored in 12 of 15 possessions w/Harris: 84 pts
Jennings' Passer Rating is 137 and his QBR is 37.4. w/ 5 passing TDs 1st 2 games, none since. He has no rushing TDs.
By comparison Prescott has the 3rd highest Passer rating at 178, and 4th highest QBR of 86, with 11 passing TDs, 3 rushing TDs.
Rating vs Ranking: Harris' NCAA Passer Rating, per Jeff Williams, NCAA's Div-1 Stats Analyst, will qualify for official ranking when he averages 15 atts/game, although any passer, even Terrance Magee's one pass generates a rating 469.
ESPN's QBR, has a higher statistical correlation with a team's AP ranking, won/loss record, and Bowl Selection. It takes into account modern spread option offenses and everything a QB does.
AUB & Malzahn preparing for return of "Mini Cam" Harris
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 10/1/14 at 7:56 am
Auburn's Kodi Burns, Rhett Lashlee and Gus Malzahn pose with Brandon Harris in 2013. The Tigers recruited him heavily, but Harris ultimately picked LSU.
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In an interesting twist, LSU freshman quarterback Brandon Harris will start his first college football game Saturday at Auburn, a school he seriously considered throughout his recruitment.
Coach Lashlee likes to call me 'Mini Cam' which makes me laugh. I'm obviously not as big as Cam but I do pride myself on my arm strength and my ability to make plays with my feet and I love Coach Malzahn's offense."
Considered one of the nation's top dual-threat quarterbacks in the 2014 cycle, Harris picked up an offer from Gus Malzahn and the Auburn coaching staff May 2, 2013. In doing so, the Tigers entered a heated battle for his commitment with several elite programs.
At times, it seemed Auburn was a perfect fit. Harris, a big fan of former Auburn star Cam Newton, wore No. 1 in high school to honor the Carolina Panthers quarterback. Auburn coaches saw several similarities during their recruitment. Ultimately, the standout from Bossier City, La., chose the Bayou Bengals over fellow finalists Auburn and Ohio State on July 18, 2013. "The reason I made that decision is I like the competition at quarterback at LSU," Harris said after his decision. "I get the opportunity to go in December and compete as a freshman to start as a freshman... When I went to LSU on May 26, it was just a different vibe."
"His arm strength and ability to make plays with his feet" are skills Miles and Cameron have taken note of and look to utilize by running more spread option 4 & 5 WR sets w/ Harris in shotgun.
OL/DL is fine, plan needs a tweak: ." State spread our D more than we wanted":
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 9/22/14 at 2:12 am
If you saw something different, what was it?
IMHO There is nothing wrong with our OL/DL. Miles game plan needs tweaking and he is smart and he will get it done 100%. Chavis is definitely not to blame for the D. Unless it is something along the lines of he and Cam should speak truth to power. Chavis' Mustang D is designed to blitz teams on passing downs that do not have 5 WR spread sideline to sideline, and a spread option 230 lb 4.5 QB free to run against 3 Down Linemen out of an empty backfield. Dak has rushed for over 200 yds in a game and has 3 100+/yd games this year. His 105 yds in this game is more rushing than our entire team.
Dan Mullen runs the most spread offense in the SEC, neutralizing Chavis' spread Mustang D blitz. When AJ/BH throw from the shotgun with 4 and 5 WR we opened the whole field to runs, passes, and QB runs against State and Wisky, late in both games: both decided by 4-5 pts. Without their goal line stand we win.
Mullen has also built a D to stop old school LSU/ALA between the tackles Power running with a 255 LB that earned his keep. Like Wisky, Mullen knows both sides of the ball and has size to negate speed and speed to negate size. Miles, Chavis and Cam have the same player resources but Miles is obviously overruling Cam in the ratio of runs to passes and the "Game Manager" style of offense vs the spread. And without our O sustaining drives and scoring, their O wore down our D. The game announcers talked about how the D was tired. Both units perked up, after 2 TD's in 28 secs. Until the last 3 min of the game State had twice as many yds.
Miles went into the game believing our #2 ranked D with 2.5 games and 33 scoreless series, was meaningful vs MSST's O. Miles looked quiet, no hand claps, no gestures, he was frustrated by State's goal line stand but says he would pound their line again. He said "State spread us wider on D than we wanted". Well, that's what they do. Their O routinely runs sideline to sideline 5 WR sets w/Dak in an empty backfield, forcing man-to-man and DB's backs to the ball. Dak took off for a 56 yd 3rd TD out of this set, and Miles looked stymied. He said without their big plays it's a "different ball game". Except for ARK, the SEC West is running spread up tempo offenses, including LSU and Kiffin's O at ALA, that's 12 of 14 SEC teams, so there is no "different ball game", just better teams running more of the same, so no 9-6 Defensive Games of the Century on the slate.
After watching the game 3x, Dak was never under center making him a constant and frequent Rushing option. Being under center takes a QB out of the run option play and most quick short pass plays. AJ ran more than Hilliard and Magee, 11 times for 6 yds/0.5 yd/rush. LF & BH accounted for 57 of our 89 yds rushing on 9 carries. The O was predictable, that is why LF is never breaking big runs like Robinson. He is pounding the rock against a wall.
Miles: State spread us wider on Defense than we wanted to be
IMHO There is nothing wrong with our OL/DL. Miles game plan needs tweaking and he is smart and he will get it done 100%. Chavis is definitely not to blame for the D. Unless it is something along the lines of he and Cam should speak truth to power. Chavis' Mustang D is designed to blitz teams on passing downs that do not have 5 WR spread sideline to sideline, and a spread option 230 lb 4.5 QB free to run against 3 Down Linemen out of an empty backfield. Dak has rushed for over 200 yds in a game and has 3 100+/yd games this year. His 105 yds in this game is more rushing than our entire team.
Dan Mullen runs the most spread offense in the SEC, neutralizing Chavis' spread Mustang D blitz. When AJ/BH throw from the shotgun with 4 and 5 WR we opened the whole field to runs, passes, and QB runs against State and Wisky, late in both games: both decided by 4-5 pts. Without their goal line stand we win.
Mullen has also built a D to stop old school LSU/ALA between the tackles Power running with a 255 LB that earned his keep. Like Wisky, Mullen knows both sides of the ball and has size to negate speed and speed to negate size. Miles, Chavis and Cam have the same player resources but Miles is obviously overruling Cam in the ratio of runs to passes and the "Game Manager" style of offense vs the spread. And without our O sustaining drives and scoring, their O wore down our D. The game announcers talked about how the D was tired. Both units perked up, after 2 TD's in 28 secs. Until the last 3 min of the game State had twice as many yds.
Miles went into the game believing our #2 ranked D with 2.5 games and 33 scoreless series, was meaningful vs MSST's O. Miles looked quiet, no hand claps, no gestures, he was frustrated by State's goal line stand but says he would pound their line again. He said "State spread us wider on D than we wanted". Well, that's what they do. Their O routinely runs sideline to sideline 5 WR sets w/Dak in an empty backfield, forcing man-to-man and DB's backs to the ball. Dak took off for a 56 yd 3rd TD out of this set, and Miles looked stymied. He said without their big plays it's a "different ball game". Except for ARK, the SEC West is running spread up tempo offenses, including LSU and Kiffin's O at ALA, that's 12 of 14 SEC teams, so there is no "different ball game", just better teams running more of the same, so no 9-6 Defensive Games of the Century on the slate.
After watching the game 3x, Dak was never under center making him a constant and frequent Rushing option. Being under center takes a QB out of the run option play and most quick short pass plays. AJ ran more than Hilliard and Magee, 11 times for 6 yds/0.5 yd/rush. LF & BH accounted for 57 of our 89 yds rushing on 9 carries. The O was predictable, that is why LF is never breaking big runs like Robinson. He is pounding the rock against a wall.
Miles: State spread us wider on Defense than we wanted to be
Update: Jennings was never higher than 7th in SEC Passer Rating (RAT)
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 9/13/14 at 8:21 am
9/14 Updated by cfbstats: 
Jennings' best performance in game 2 was not eligible for a Passer Rating (RAT) because he had only 13 Attempts. The NCAA minimum is 15 passing attempts per game for a Passer, any Passer to receive a Passer Rating (RAT) for a game. ESPN computes their Passer Rating (RAT) and the broader QBR rating which includes running, passing, strength of defense, home or away, SOS, and many other variables using a 20 action play per game minimum to include running and passing quarterbacks and teams using 2 or more quarterbacks.
Note: To qualify, player must have played in 75% of his team's games and have a minimum of 15.0 pass attempts per game played. (posted at bottom of Rating Chart)
Shutouts by big margins are important and generate headlines: LSU has first consecutive shutouts since 1985 (Ole Miss and Kentucky) was in the news.
prior to Game 3:
Kenny Hill has the highest QB Rating (QBR) in the SEC at 93.9 (3rd in the nation) which you would expect since he has the highest overall stats, followed by ALA (Sims 90.0) and AUB (Marshall 80.1). 93.9 is a very high QBR and it means he should win essentially every game he starts. Brandon Harris who is not reported due to limited playing time has the highest you can get at 99.7 with 100 being perfect. The QBR means a given QB would be expected to win that percentage of games he played. 99.7 means that based on Harris's performance in the SHSU game he would be expected to win all of the games he played. It is too small a sample to say that and 2 weeks is too small of a sample for Jennings who has fluctuated wildly.
Jennings is 4th in QBR (77.3) in the SEC and 24th in the nation after 2 games. After the Wisconsin game he had a raw QB rating of 31.9 and an adjusted QB Rating of 52, good for 71st in the nation. So after one game he was near the bottom of the SEC.
As for the RAT or Passer Rating that generated the claim that Jennings had the best QB Rating in the SEC, Brandon Harris actually has a 250 to Jennings 201 so Jennings does not even have the best RAT Passer Rating on the LSU team.
The Ratings QBR and RAT (Passer Rating) can fluctuate with good and bad games and against easy or ranked opponents. And, since college football has imbalanced schedules, QBR adjusts for defenses faced vs RAW QBR that does not.
The scale of QBR is from zero to 100, where 50 is average. Top quarterbacks are in the upper 80s and 90s for an entire season.
Baylor's Russell and Petty are ranked one and four nationally at QBR 96.2 and 93.4. But other than Oklahoma and Kansas St they currently only 2 ranked opponents and don't play any SEC schools.
Jameis Winston ranked first with QBR of 89.4 for 2013. Mett ranked 6th with 85.7 and Nick Marshall ranked 12th with 81.9.
Manziel for example ranked first in QBR in 2012 with a value of 90.5. His unadjusted value was 86.4, also the best among FBS schools. The increase from unadjusted to adjusted reflects that he did face good defenses overall. A&M won 85% of their games so their QBR was a good barometer.
Bottom line: The QBR accounts for everything a QB does, when he does it, how he manages the clock, if he fumbles, has INTs, TDs, third down conversion percentage, and heavy emphasis on running ability, if he gets penalties, or draws the other team off sides, literally every play is weighted as are the strength of opponents and especially the 4 Qtr strength of their defense. Regarding Kenny Hill, he ran an up tempo spread offense that broke all of JFF's records in one game. In that game he ran 99 plays without having one false start penalty or INT.
It is often said that winning the turnover battle usually means you win the game. Winning the turnover battle in college football wins 73 percent of games. Winning the QBR battle wins 85 percent of the games. So QBR correlates to overall quarterback play and winning.
The NFL notices the QBR raw and adjusted because good QBs can end up playing weak SOS in lesser divisions and conferences.
Baylor and BYU want to win out by huge margins and shutouts whenever possible because they have weak SOS. Running up points on a team may seem brutal when it is an FCS school but it shows up in your key stats: Passing Yds, Rushing Yds, Pts For, Pts Against which along with won/loss and SOS influences the playoff committee. Shutouts by big margins are important and generate headlines: LSU has first consecutive shutouts since 1985 (Ole Miss and Kentucky was in the news.
Jennings' best performance in game 2 was not eligible for a Passer Rating (RAT) because he had only 13 Attempts. The NCAA minimum is 15 passing attempts per game for a Passer, any Passer to receive a Passer Rating (RAT) for a game. ESPN computes their Passer Rating (RAT) and the broader QBR rating which includes running, passing, strength of defense, home or away, SOS, and many other variables using a 20 action play per game minimum to include running and passing quarterbacks and teams using 2 or more quarterbacks.
Note: To qualify, player must have played in 75% of his team's games and have a minimum of 15.0 pass attempts per game played. (posted at bottom of Rating Chart)
Shutouts by big margins are important and generate headlines: LSU has first consecutive shutouts since 1985 (Ole Miss and Kentucky) was in the news.
prior to Game 3:
Kenny Hill has the highest QB Rating (QBR) in the SEC at 93.9 (3rd in the nation) which you would expect since he has the highest overall stats, followed by ALA (Sims 90.0) and AUB (Marshall 80.1). 93.9 is a very high QBR and it means he should win essentially every game he starts. Brandon Harris who is not reported due to limited playing time has the highest you can get at 99.7 with 100 being perfect. The QBR means a given QB would be expected to win that percentage of games he played. 99.7 means that based on Harris's performance in the SHSU game he would be expected to win all of the games he played. It is too small a sample to say that and 2 weeks is too small of a sample for Jennings who has fluctuated wildly.
Jennings is 4th in QBR (77.3) in the SEC and 24th in the nation after 2 games. After the Wisconsin game he had a raw QB rating of 31.9 and an adjusted QB Rating of 52, good for 71st in the nation. So after one game he was near the bottom of the SEC.
As for the RAT or Passer Rating that generated the claim that Jennings had the best QB Rating in the SEC, Brandon Harris actually has a 250 to Jennings 201 so Jennings does not even have the best RAT Passer Rating on the LSU team.
The Ratings QBR and RAT (Passer Rating) can fluctuate with good and bad games and against easy or ranked opponents. And, since college football has imbalanced schedules, QBR adjusts for defenses faced vs RAW QBR that does not.
The scale of QBR is from zero to 100, where 50 is average. Top quarterbacks are in the upper 80s and 90s for an entire season.
Baylor's Russell and Petty are ranked one and four nationally at QBR 96.2 and 93.4. But other than Oklahoma and Kansas St they currently only 2 ranked opponents and don't play any SEC schools.
Jameis Winston ranked first with QBR of 89.4 for 2013. Mett ranked 6th with 85.7 and Nick Marshall ranked 12th with 81.9.
Manziel for example ranked first in QBR in 2012 with a value of 90.5. His unadjusted value was 86.4, also the best among FBS schools. The increase from unadjusted to adjusted reflects that he did face good defenses overall. A&M won 85% of their games so their QBR was a good barometer.
Bottom line: The QBR accounts for everything a QB does, when he does it, how he manages the clock, if he fumbles, has INTs, TDs, third down conversion percentage, and heavy emphasis on running ability, if he gets penalties, or draws the other team off sides, literally every play is weighted as are the strength of opponents and especially the 4 Qtr strength of their defense. Regarding Kenny Hill, he ran an up tempo spread offense that broke all of JFF's records in one game. In that game he ran 99 plays without having one false start penalty or INT.
It is often said that winning the turnover battle usually means you win the game. Winning the turnover battle in college football wins 73 percent of games. Winning the QBR battle wins 85 percent of the games. So QBR correlates to overall quarterback play and winning.
The NFL notices the QBR raw and adjusted because good QBs can end up playing weak SOS in lesser divisions and conferences.
Baylor and BYU want to win out by huge margins and shutouts whenever possible because they have weak SOS. Running up points on a team may seem brutal when it is an FCS school but it shows up in your key stats: Passing Yds, Rushing Yds, Pts For, Pts Against which along with won/loss and SOS influences the playoff committee. Shutouts by big margins are important and generate headlines: LSU has first consecutive shutouts since 1985 (Ole Miss and Kentucky was in the news.
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Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 9/12/14 at 12:39 am
They must be sprinkling in typos because they think we are too busy ranting to notice, or they could be oversights like our typos in every thread on this site. (Chicken, where is the spellcheck button?) And, no, I do not think complaining about something that irks you on their "public site" in a thread is going to effect a change, you need to write them.
Look, in the words of the immortal Bluto "we are that "SOMEBODY", we are the RANT, we represent the last bastion of concise, erudite, scholarly, knowledgeable, well-read, well-informed, fact-based logic. Sure we can be polarizing meatheads but notwithstanding the exceptional oxymoron or two, as graduates of this great institution of higher learning we know that the pen is mightier than the sword and we mostly know how to play the game of Chicken without getting banned.
So, when we find something that irks the living daylight out of us on LSUSports.Net, for instance Brandon Harris's Birthday being wrong, what do we do?. We all know that Harris and Dupre were born on the same day. Without that astrological bond how could an effortless back shoulder fade from Harris-to-Dupre for their first touchdowns as passer and receiver be possible? That gliding one second drop back and perfectly lofted touch pass over a blitzing defender into the outstretched arms of Dupre can only be due to having the same birthday. Two firsts for two young Freshmen who will both celebrate their 19th Birthday on 10/12, the day after we play Florida. Their birthdays are the same now on LSUsports. So how did it get fixed?
Solution: Find the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page or simply write: [link=(lsusports@lsu.edu)]lsusports@lsu.edu[/link] – Questions, suggestions and complaints about content on LSUsports.net.
Submit your suggestion and within a day, or three on football weekends, the Webmaster will write you back and say "This is being corrected now. Thank you for writing."
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I know it's trivial, but it just seems that SOMEBODY would proofread a bio before putting it on a public site.
Look, in the words of the immortal Bluto "we are that "SOMEBODY", we are the RANT, we represent the last bastion of concise, erudite, scholarly, knowledgeable, well-read, well-informed, fact-based logic. Sure we can be polarizing meatheads but notwithstanding the exceptional oxymoron or two, as graduates of this great institution of higher learning we know that the pen is mightier than the sword and we mostly know how to play the game of Chicken without getting banned.
So, when we find something that irks the living daylight out of us on LSUSports.Net, for instance Brandon Harris's Birthday being wrong, what do we do?. We all know that Harris and Dupre were born on the same day. Without that astrological bond how could an effortless back shoulder fade from Harris-to-Dupre for their first touchdowns as passer and receiver be possible? That gliding one second drop back and perfectly lofted touch pass over a blitzing defender into the outstretched arms of Dupre can only be due to having the same birthday. Two firsts for two young Freshmen who will both celebrate their 19th Birthday on 10/12, the day after we play Florida. Their birthdays are the same now on LSUsports. So how did it get fixed?
Solution: Find the "Contact Us" link at the bottom of the page or simply write: [link=(lsusports@lsu.edu)]lsusports@lsu.edu[/link] – Questions, suggestions and complaints about content on LSUsports.net.
Submit your suggestion and within a day, or three on football weekends, the Webmaster will write you back and say "This is being corrected now. Thank you for writing."
#1 WDE Lorenzo Carter (GA), #1 SDE Malik McDowell (MI) OVs, Videos
Posted by Quid Pro Quo on 12/21/13 at 5:06 am
Both McDowell (1/24)and Carter(1/17) have LSU OVs scheduled in January. McDowell after his OV to Alabama on 12/9 said they set the bar for the rest of them. He is the #1 recruit from Michigan and in his video interview on YouTube LINK he emphasizes Michigan graduating 100% of their football players and 99% of their African American class. So he is a scholar athlete who plans on playing 4 yrs, my favorite kind - recruit gets a scholarship, a shot at the NFL, and a degree for life. At 6'7" 290 lbs he is ranked #36 on 247, recently voted an All-American, his star is rising, 4 spots below the last 5 star, 8 spots behind recent commit Clifton Garrett. He is ranked #2 in the nation at SDE or DT. IMHO he is so close to earning his 5th star it is likely, especially with a good US ARMY All-American Bowl Game Jan 4th on NBC. On 11/18 it was reported on NOLA: "LSU defensive line coach Brick Haley took a trip to see the prospect a few days ago and word is that it was an outstanding meeting, according to sources. McDowell has family in Louisiana and his coach said the visit from Haley had McDowell giddy in a way that he has not seen. Expect McDowell to make a visit to Baton Rouge in the near future and the Tigers to be a major contender for his services." By the way with the air of uncertainty coming out of TTown recruits, the bar they set a few weeks ago might very well be a whole lot lower if recruits keep de-committing and flipping.
Lorenzo Carter is the #1 recruit in the state of Georgia and the #12 overall recruit in the nation. There has been a lot of chatter on the board about Lorenzo Carter being a long shot. A couple of days ago I Googled him and found an article referencing a video that tells why Carter is 'Hot For LSU'. The Video was posted online by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and I downloaded and saved it to my computer: "No. 1 Lorenzo Carter Unplugged on his recruiting". The ESPN interviewer was shocked when he said his first OV would be to LSU. ESPN asked how did LSU get into it. Carter said "I've always had a good relationship with coach Miles and felt good about him as a coach..and coach Haley came for an in home visit and he had a great impact on on my parents. And I mean that defense They Send Defensive Ends to the League." (Big Smile and smug grin) ESPN, churlish and incredulous asked HOW did this happen, did LSU come out of nowhere or were they there all along. Carter, still smiling "Well I have always had LSU in my top 5, but it was a surprise to me that they jumped like they did (happy smile) because I wasn't expecting to go to Baton Rouge, but I mean Coach Haley did his job (big happy smile)". Then after shrugging off Alabama as having fallen off and really looking disinterested and not really planning to visit them, he said Coach Miles was coming Mid January for a home visit. Although he said it was a Georgia / Florida Gators top two, the door is now wide open for LSU. LINK
Watch the video. The enthusiasm is centered around the new surprise push and opportunity at LSU and the fact that we put Defensive players in the league, impressed his parents and he respects/likes the coaches. All the recruits have to also know the kind of class that is coming together this year. It is important to note how little enthusiasm he showed in the rest of the interview and that whoever wants them the most is a factor for both these men. Clifton Garrett committing so definitively and early, a #1 out of state recruit/recruiter set an example, as well as the outspoken networking of the other recruit/recruiters, some extra chemistry, positive energy, and momentum this year without coaching uncertainty.
At low Tide all sorts of hidden treasures turn up. To Coach Miles and Coach Haley Cheers to Illinois, Michigan, and Georgia #1 in state and top national recruits.
Lorenzo Carter is the #1 recruit in the state of Georgia and the #12 overall recruit in the nation. There has been a lot of chatter on the board about Lorenzo Carter being a long shot. A couple of days ago I Googled him and found an article referencing a video that tells why Carter is 'Hot For LSU'. The Video was posted online by the Atlanta Journal Constitution and I downloaded and saved it to my computer: "No. 1 Lorenzo Carter Unplugged on his recruiting". The ESPN interviewer was shocked when he said his first OV would be to LSU. ESPN asked how did LSU get into it. Carter said "I've always had a good relationship with coach Miles and felt good about him as a coach..and coach Haley came for an in home visit and he had a great impact on on my parents. And I mean that defense They Send Defensive Ends to the League." (Big Smile and smug grin) ESPN, churlish and incredulous asked HOW did this happen, did LSU come out of nowhere or were they there all along. Carter, still smiling "Well I have always had LSU in my top 5, but it was a surprise to me that they jumped like they did (happy smile) because I wasn't expecting to go to Baton Rouge, but I mean Coach Haley did his job (big happy smile)". Then after shrugging off Alabama as having fallen off and really looking disinterested and not really planning to visit them, he said Coach Miles was coming Mid January for a home visit. Although he said it was a Georgia / Florida Gators top two, the door is now wide open for LSU. LINK
Watch the video. The enthusiasm is centered around the new surprise push and opportunity at LSU and the fact that we put Defensive players in the league, impressed his parents and he respects/likes the coaches. All the recruits have to also know the kind of class that is coming together this year. It is important to note how little enthusiasm he showed in the rest of the interview and that whoever wants them the most is a factor for both these men. Clifton Garrett committing so definitively and early, a #1 out of state recruit/recruiter set an example, as well as the outspoken networking of the other recruit/recruiters, some extra chemistry, positive energy, and momentum this year without coaching uncertainty.
At low Tide all sorts of hidden treasures turn up. To Coach Miles and Coach Haley Cheers to Illinois, Michigan, and Georgia #1 in state and top national recruits.
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