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re: Without repeal Obamacare is here to stay
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:27 am to goodbuds
Posted on 3/25/17 at 9:27 am to goodbuds
So according to PolitiFact, it's not a death spiral but a downward spiral. And they rate his claim as false because ObamaCare doesn't meet the "technical definition" of a death spiral.
Nit-picking if I ever saw it.
Nit-picking if I ever saw it.
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:41 am to ellishughtiger
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There are many new ways to earn extra income out there. I know lawyers and guys who work in finance that Uber/Lyft a few days a few hours a week to supplement their income. Granted, I don't have children so I'm doing fine paying my premium but if I did I'll be taking on these ride sharing type jobs to earn extra money for stuff like healthcare and private schooling.
With all due respect, frick You
Why not make those worthless Americans who don't work get a damn job? Why not ship every illegal alien to a remote island to assure they never come back and drain my tax dollars. Why do we have to work for our lifestyle and some other lazy piece of shite?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:48 am to Northwestern tiger
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But why should I care?
Because your ins carrier also underwrites Obamacare (all of them do). When Trump doesn't authorize increases to subsidies, guess what happens to your premiums? So that your carrier can recover their losses?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 10:51 am to BamaAtl
Could care less about Obama care. Unlike the dems and libs I am
Accountable for my health care. Not dependent on the government
Accountable for my health care. Not dependent on the government
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:47 am to LSU alum wannabe
Buying insurance across state lines is a total pipe dream.
48 states have laws against it.
There is no federal law against it.
So this website is a big nothing unless a bunch of states change their laws.
48 states have laws against it.
There is no federal law against it.
So this website is a big nothing unless a bunch of states change their laws.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:51 am to maine82
Politifact didn't say it was in a downward spiral.
A conservative pundit they quoted said that.
A conservative pundit they quoted said that.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:15 am to goodbuds
Obamacare is not sustainable. You are so silly. 
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:17 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Pre-existing out. Lifetime limits out. Those things needed to go and are gone forever.
equals
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And it made it less affordable for everybody else.
can't have one without the other.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:25 am to Homesick Tiger
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So no compassion for those who don't have employer paid premiums? I went on Medicare the first of the month. My and my wife's insurance was thru my ex employer. My part of the premium was about a $160 a month. The wife's premium was $220 a month. Now that I'm no longer affiliated with my past job, the wife is no longer considered a dependent on the company's insurance plan. Her premium jumped up to $965 per month for the same policy even though the deductible increased.
220 out of my pocket one day, 965 the next day. That's why you should care, eventually.
You would have had the same result in the pre-ACA environment.
Healthcare premiums went up more per year under Bush pre ACA than during the Obama terms.
If your wife isn't eligible for a subsidy it's because you make too much money, which is a good thing for you isn't it?
Your wife chooses not to work, you choose not to work, so we're supposed to over turn a law that has helped millions of working class Americans?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:30 am to wryder1
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With all due respect, frick You
Why not make those worthless Americans who don't work get a damn job? Why not ship every illegal alien to a remote island to assure they never come back and drain my tax dollars. Why do we have to work for our lifestyle and some other lazy piece of shite?
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wryder1
ACA subsidies go mostly to working Americans. Single individuals that work can make incomes in the 40s and still qualify for some subsidy, as rightly it drops the more you make.
It's been a great thing for small business with under 50 employees because they don't have to offer insurance under ACA but all their employees that they pay between $7.25 and $20.00 per hour qualify for subsidies, so it's been a way for small business to have employees with health care instead of without it.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:33 am to BBONDS25
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Obamacare is not sustainable. You are so silly.
When you offer healthcare for the first time to 20 million Americans you are obviously going to have pent up demand for services.
That is a lot of what we have been seeing these first couple of years.
This will level out over time as millions of people are now getting preventative care instead of showing up in our emergency rooms half dead for expensive life saving procedures that the Emergency Room Fairy pays for.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:39 am to wryder1
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wryder1
This program has been subsidized by the richest 2% of Americans that continue to widen the income gap between themselves and the middle class by being smarter than us and by paying much less % of their income in taxes than we do as working middle class Americans.
Stupid people like this guy above don't understand that and continues to vote like the millionaires like Limbaugh tell him to, which is completely against his own economic self interest and against the self interest of his family members and friends.
But, but, supreme court judges bro.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:47 am to goodbuds
Not true. I know several executives in the HC industry in both hospital and health insurance and they all say it's failing fast. The Health iansurance companies will not allow themselves to take huge losses because only "sick" people are signing up for Obamacare. It's unsustainable.
The Democrats are celebrating right now but, they won't for long. They still own this disaster.
The Democrats are celebrating right now but, they won't for long. They still own this disaster.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:58 am to LSUwag
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I know several executives in the HC industry in both hospital and health insurance and they all say it's failing fast.
A) No, you don't.
B) They're lying to you because they know you're not capable of looking into their lies.
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It's unsustainable.
This is not a true statement.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:03 am to LSUwag
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LSUwag
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It's unsustainable.
So, let's fix it by removing the 3.8% ACA tax on the richest 2% of Americans who already were paying a lower rate of tax than the working middle class like you and me?
That's all the republicans could think about was taking that tax off themselves. That's why the rest of their Trumpcare plan was shite.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:03 am to BamaAtl
A). Yes, I. Do. My wife is a HC executive and I know several others who are her contemporaries. I have three close friends who are at the VP level of major hospital corporations and one who is VP at Blue Cross.
The program is failing.
I'm not taking any position here. I'm just saying what they have told me.
The program is failing.
I'm not taking any position here. I'm just saying what they have told me.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:04 am to LSUwag
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The program is failing.
Data says otherwise. Guess it's option B, they're lying to you.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:06 am to BamaAtl
GFY!
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:07 am to LSUwag
Good response when you don't have or don't understand an argument.
Probably why they found it so easy to lie to you about the ACA.
Probably why they found it so easy to lie to you about the ACA.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:07 am to LSUwag
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LSUwag
Then why were lobbyists for the Hospital and Medical industries against Trumpcare?
Evidently they thought that was a worse idea than ACA.
ACA needs to be improved, democrats are all agreeing with that.
It's amazing it's worked as well as it has with republicans spending seven years trying to undermine it to fail instead of doing their jobs for middle class Americans and improving upon it.
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