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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:52 am to DelU249
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:52 am to DelU249
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which in 2017 is indistinguishable form cable or network news
this is the real issue if you ask me. I don't watch tv or cable news, but frick when I do I am blown away on how vapid it is. regardless of what network.
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:54 am to montanagator
regardless of what happened i do like that famous people with money are now less inclined to settle bullshite extortion lawsuits because the pubic perception of this has really centered on the fact that he settled
now that settling is an admission of wrongdoing and makes every accusation by the plaintiff the word of god...well, now these people aren't going to settle. people looking for quick pay days are the real loser here.
now that settling is an admission of wrongdoing and makes every accusation by the plaintiff the word of god...well, now these people aren't going to settle. people looking for quick pay days are the real loser here.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:57 am to Hawkeye95
oh please...we all partake in it. right here right now you and i are talking about bill o'reilly scandal which is textbook media deciding what we think is interesting
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:57 am to DelU249
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now that settling is an admission of wrongdoing
settling a lawsuit always has that stench.
Bill CLinton settled with paula jones, does that mean he isn't guilty? What about michael jackson who settled frequently?
This is why settlements often have gag orders on them.
And I will point out that it appears most of the settlements were outside the courts. So it was basically hush money on his part.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:59 am to DelU249
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oh please...we all partake in it. right here right now you and i are talking about bill o'reilly scandal which is textbook media deciding what we think is interesting
eh, a leading anchor getting canned for sexual harrassment is not the media telling me what to think. that shite is news regardless of who reports it.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:00 pm to DelU249
There are a lot of hacks on TV and O'Reilly is an a-hole off the air, but in my opinion he was generally pretty fair in his commentary and his Talking Points were usually right on the money. Hate that is gone now.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:03 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:it's always been a point of consternation for people who want x or y to be true, but I've always felt it was a push
settling a lawsuit always has that stench.
may have done it, but may have settled it to avoid the hassle, just pay the bill and move on with their life
quote:irrelevant. that way it doesn't even make its way into the court of public opinion (in theory) doesn't really move the needle for me, but by now anyone who settles i don't feel sorry for them because public perception has changed or at the very least it's something for your critics and competitors to use to smear you...and i think he probably did most of what he is accused of, but that's because of his age and the industry in which he works.
outside the courts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:03 pm to KiwiHead
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O'Reilly made Fox News
No he didn't.
I'm a loyal Fox News watcher who's very pleased by this recent development.
There are many of us.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:04 pm to Navytiger74
quote:You're ex-Navy. You guys will frick anything, do anything, say anything. If anyone here has offered to rub "a falafel" on her box it'd be a Navy man!
You ever call a female subordinates and offer to rub "a falafel" on her box?
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:08 pm to FairhopeTider
quote:you know it doesn't even matter really. i don't feel bad for anyone, but o'reilly made Murdoch a shite ton of money, put his news channel on the map, made it the number 1 news channel by a mile. i know there's no loyalty with this kind of shite whether it be talent or brass, but i wish for once one of these networks or huge companies would tell people to eat a dick. not all instances, but this is certainly one and i wish abc would've stuck by bill maher just the same even though i think what he said was stupid and his handling of it was even worse. it's all a bunch of fake outrage.
in my opinion he was generally pretty fair in his commentary and his Talking Points were usually right on the money
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:10 pm to DelU249
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it's always been a point of consternation for people who want x or y to be true, but I've always felt it was a push
may have done it, but may have settled it to avoid the hassle, just pay the bill and move on with their life
Eh, I generally believe a settlement means something is there. Especially multiple settlements. This is the court of public opinion, not the court of law.
I believe that michael jackson molested those children. I believe that bill clinton harassed paula jones. And I believe that oreilly is a sexual harasser.
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irrelevant.
Not its especially relevant. WHen its not disclosed it really reeks of hush money when found out, especially if there are multiple settlements.
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and i think he probably did most of what he is accused of, but that's because of his age and the industry in which he works.
So you support his firing? Cause I generally support people who sexually harass coworkers in getting canned.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:11 pm to DelU249
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you know it doesn't even matter really. i don't feel bad for anyone, but o'reilly made Murdoch a shite ton of money, put his news channel on the map, made it the number 1 news channel by a mile. i know there's no loyalty with this kind of shite whether it be talent or brass, but i wish for once one of these networks or huge companies would tell people to eat a dick. not all instances, but this is certainly one and i wish abc would've stuck by bill maher just the same even though i think what he said was stupid and his handling of it was even worse. it's all a bunch of fake outrage.
If so many advertisers hadn't pulled out, Fox News would have done exactly that. And certainly anyone who claims that O Reilly didn't have a LOT to do with what Fox News has became is delusional.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:11 pm to EKG
quote:i don't like the guy and you may not like him (i don't) or think he's literally hitler, but give me a fricking break
No he didn't
if he didn't, who did. who brought in viewers? Hannity? Schneider? you don't even know what you're talking about.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:12 pm to CharlesLSU
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was under the impression its because a serial sexual harasser is being fired
You mean a normal guy except he is loaded.
There is no harrassment here, just whores after free cash.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:14 pm to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:seriously. ailes gets the credit for putting him on...but he's the guy who brought viewers to the channel. a completely new channel, CNN was a giant too, and now o'reilly's rerun beats their highest rated shows.
And certainly anyone who claims that O Reilly didn't have a LOT to do with what Fox News has became is delusional.
larry king was the fricking man and the moment o'reilly went on the air, larry king went from a big fricking deal to a nobody who was eventually replaced by piers fricking morgan
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:14 pm to DelU249
Expect Tucker Carlson to inherit this spot.
He has a higher ceiling to regain the audience and he's cheaper right now.
He has a higher ceiling to regain the audience and he's cheaper right now.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:18 pm to DelU249
Most of the Fox personalities "win" their time slots, so I'd argue many others are also responsible for contributing to Fox's success.
I'm certainly not implying that O'Reilly didn't/doesn't have a following; but one cranky guy hosting an-hour long show didn't build that network.
I'm certainly not implying that O'Reilly didn't/doesn't have a following; but one cranky guy hosting an-hour long show didn't build that network.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:18 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:well now i do because everyone should know as of now that settling will be used against you as an admission of wrong doing. every allegation is now the word of god.
I generally believe a settlement means something is there
quote:that's why many people would settle. who cares if they win in court, this shite gets to the press and now you're guilty until proven innocent and even if you beat the suit, the perception lingers
This is the court of public opinion, not the court of law.
but now the reason for an innocent person to settle is gone. so if someone is extorting you...fight it. if you have something to hide...settle
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:20 pm to DelU249
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. i know there's no loyalty with this kind of shite whether it be talent or brass, but i wish for once one of these networks or huge companies would tell people to eat a dick.
That he had a job after 5 harassment settlements in the first place shows some pretty deep loyalty on Fox's part.
Posted on 4/19/17 at 12:22 pm to DelU249
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It's a victory for them. Their motives couldn't be more superficial and they flexed their media muscle and made it happen even though their motives were so transparent in their insincerity.
Correct.
The base of the Democrat Party is composed of effeminate SJW males, single women, and perpetually butthurt minorities. They can't win at the ballot box these days, so they will make a big deal out of this.
Meanwhile, if I were FOX I would simply bump both Carlson & Hannity up 1 hour each, and take a shot with a young, conservative piece of eye candy like Tomi Lahren in the 3rd hour.
I don't begrudge left-wing snowflakes for making a big deal out of this. The Obama/Pelosi/Schumer Express to nowhere has been derailed, so faux victories like this one is all they have right now.
PS - I wish I had known that Obama's victory in 2012 was going to be the DEMwit's last one for the next 4.5 years. I wouldn't have been so damn devastated.
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