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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:31 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:31 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
look I certainly think he could've been the maniac stalin was...but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt considering stalin had quite the bodycount...
also, I don't view lenin as any kind of intellectual (as he fancied himself) Really I see no difference between he and stalin in terms of moral and ethical fiber
also, I don't view lenin as any kind of intellectual (as he fancied himself) Really I see no difference between he and stalin in terms of moral and ethical fiber
Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:44 pm to DelU249
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I'm waiting for toddy to chime in with Ludwig II of Bavaria
There were probably a few who were more authentically gay than der Märchenkönig (no proof he acted out, right). Also, I don't think his powers approached that of an autocrat. Bavaria was punked by Prussia for siding with the Austrians in the Austro-Prussian war a few years after he succeeded to the throne, and was absorbed into the German Empire some years later (as a de facto client state of Prussia at the time).
Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:45 pm to Navytiger74
it's not just that he had the gay...Ludwig was batshit crazy, incompetent and stuck in perpetual adolescence
Posted on 8/12/14 at 2:49 pm to DelU249
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The Soviet Union could have industrialized without millions of deaths
correct, it's like saying we needed clinton/algore to have the internet, we didn't, and they were the beneficiary of the success it created, not the other way around.
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