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The United Nations: Islam’s Gestapo

Posted on 4/11/08 at 6:57 pm
Posted by Toothpick
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 6:57 pm
Nepotism, corruption, anti-Semitism and now censorship.

While the United Nations has disgraced itself over the years with sporadic eruptions of the first three negatives, it added another one last March 28 when its Human Rights Council passed a disturbing resolution that directs the body’s expert on free speech to report on “individuals and news media for negative comments on Islam.” In effect, the UN will now become the Islamic world’s censorship watchdog, snooping out undefined acts of Islamophobia around the globe.

No other religion is covered by the Muslim-backed resolution that will most likely see the curtailing of free speech in some countries. But perhaps more ominously, although the UNHRC has no power of enforcement, lists of alleged malefactors will be drawn up, giving the Council’s recent action a definite, totalitarian ring.

Motioned by Egypt and Pakistan, not the sturdiest pillars of human rights themselves, and supported by Islamic and African countries, the resolution passed by a 32-0 vote. Muslim countries were upset by the Danish cartoons, published in 2005, depicting the prophet Muhammad and have been demanding limitations on free speech since then. The recent release of the Geert Wilders film, Fitna, reinforced their insistence on such restrictions, which FrontPage Magazine columnist Robert Spencer says are all part of the 57-member Organization of the Islamic Conference’s strategy to protect Islam from alleged defamation.

Journalist Caroline Glick wrote in her column in the Jewish World Review that the United Nations had violated its own Declaration of Human Rights, which guarantees freedom of expression, when it passed the March 28 resolution. Glick also pointed out that it was surprising when the UNHRC’s European members abstained from the vote, since they are such staunch supporters of the UN.

By abstaining, the European nations, those supposed bastions of human rights and free speech (especially when it comes to blaspheming Christianity), simply showed what moral cowards they truly are, putting their dhimmi status on display once more in failing to stand up to Islamic bullying.

Several countries that still have a backbone did speak out against this atrocious violation of human rights and freedom of expression. The United States, which does not have a seat on the 47-nation UNHRC but has observer status, did not stay silent. Warren Tichenor, America’s ambassador in Geneva, told the body: “The resolution seeks to impose restrictions on individuals rather than to emphasize the duty and responsibility of governments to guarantee, uphold, promote and protect human rights.”

A Canadian delegate supported Tichenor’s view with his statement: “The job of a special rapporteur is not to police the action of individuals.”

But that is exactly what is going to happen. Up until now, the duty of the UNHRC’s free speech watchdog was to report on efforts by despotic governments and dictatorships (like many of those on the UN’s Human Rights Council) to restrict freedom of expression. With the March 28 resolution, the tip of the spear has now been turned around against individuals, like Wilders and the Danish cartoonists, who practise their basic right to freely express themselves.

Western observers also believe the resolution will give repressive regimes, both Islamic and non-Islamic, a further excuse to crack down on dissent in their own countries. But even worse, it will give such states an opportunity to meddle in the affairs of democratic countries, using a phoney victim status as cover for their aggression.

In defence of the resolution, Muslim representatives like Pakistan’s ambassador, Masood Khan, said the measure was only trying to make “freedom of expression responsible,” while protecting Islam from its worst practices that only defame the Muslim faith and incite religious hatred and racism.

But if Islamic countries passed this resolution to protect religion from hatred and intolerance, then they and their motion have a severe credibility problem. Muslim discrimination against other religions in Islamic countries has been well documented. For example, in Pakistan and Egypt, the two countries that proposed the anti-free speech motion, Christians are a persecuted minority.

In Pakistan, according to a story in the German newspaper, Die Welt, a form of “religious apartheid” is practised against Christians, who are regarded as “fair game” for those who wish to maltreat them. While Muslim women need four male witnesses to convict a man who rapes them, a Muslim man who rapes a Christian woman is never convicted. As well, the persecution has become so intolerable Christians have committed suicide in Pakistani courtrooms in front of judges out of protest.

Caroline Glick writes that, in Egypt, the persecution of the Christian Coptic Church has been institutionalized and liberal critics of the Egyptian government have been silenced. In both countries, Muslim persecution even extends to fellow Muslims who wish to leave Islam, since this could result in their deaths.

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By abstaining, the European nations, those supposed bastions of human rights and free speech (especially when it comes to blaspheming Christianity), simply showed what moral cowards they truly are, putting their dhimmi status on display once more in failing to stand up to Islamic bullying.


And some Jew hating bigots like CT in particular point to Europe's condemnation of Israel and insist that the USA is wrong for its support of Israel. Europe's willing submission to dhimmitude doesn't have anything to do with their cowardly views and stance on Israel according to CT, especially with all the restive Muslims living inside their countries.

It is exactly because of idiots like CT and his clueless ilk that Muslims can get away with today the bullshite that is described in this article!
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 6:59 pm to
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Islamic and African countries,


Can anyone name a stable democratic, Islamic or African country?

Don't think one exist.

Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:00 pm to
England is pretty stable.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:03 pm to
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Can anyone name a stable democratic, Islamic or African country


the Jews and Christians won't allow it. The Great Satans feed(profit) from the misery of others.

Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:04 pm to
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Can anyone name a stable democratic, Islamic or African country?

Don't think one exist.


It's like naming a non-Muslim country that borders an Islamic country whose borders with the Islamic country aren't very bloody.

They don't exist either! Yet, that's exactly the peace proposal that is being prescribed for Israel! No wonder peace has been impossible for the past 60 years, we have the blind leading the blind!
Posted by specs1
Member since Dec 2005
10015 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:06 pm to
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They don't exist either! Yet, that's exactly the peace proposal that is being prescribed for Israel! No wonder peace has been impossible for the past 60 years, we have the blind leading the blind!


I was at lunch w/ some colleagues one day and one of them posed the question, "Who said Isreal should occupy that land anyway?"

I responded Moses. That's good enough for me.
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:11 pm to
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the Jews and Christians won't allow it.


Why did the Muslim kill 3 million Hindus in a genocide in East Pakistan in 1971? Why do Muslims slaughter Hindus in Jammu and Kashmir? Why did Muslims in Pakistan slaughter a Hindu earlier this week for blaspheming Islam?
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:14 pm to
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Why did the Muslim kill 3 million Hindus in a genocide in East Pakistan in 1971? Why do Muslims slaughter Hindus in Jammu and Kashmir? Why did Muslims in Pakistan slaughter a Hindu earlier this week for blaspheming Islam?
Because they are the misunderstood religion.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:17 pm to
thet were working for the Satans obviously, and have to pay the price.
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:21 pm to
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"Who said Isreal should occupy that land anyway?"


Israel has every right to exist as much as any of the Muslim countries seeking its destruction that surround her, as none of them and Israel would exist today had not the Ottoman Empire been defeated in WWI.

What is going on in Israel isn't a so-called conflict between Jews and Palestians. What is going on is an Islamic Jihad to convert the territory that Israel occupies into the dar al Islam by imposing Islamic Sharia Law on it, just like every where else on the Arabian Peninsula, N. Africa, and most of Southeast Asia. Morons like Kashonly want to sacrifice the Jews to another Holocaust because like an idiot he believes it will appease the Muslims.
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:31 pm to
nope just Israel
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:45 pm to
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nope just Israel


You’re an idiot if you believe that Islam is going to be appeased by sacrificing Israel. To the contrary it will just embolden them further. Indeed, you don’t have a fricking clue; the Jihad has spread its tentacles already throughout Western Europe, Russia, Southeast Asia, China, and North and South America! Do you think that they would be so bold today in the UN if they weren’t so extremely confident that they will eventually win their struggle? Islam intends to turn the entire dar al Harb into the dar al Islam by imposing Islamic Sharia upon it! They are bound by the Koran and the Sunna to perpetually pursue that goal until it is achieved or they are defeated. The only way to stop Islam is to defeat it, just like it was defeated in 732 the first time it tried to conquer Europe, and just like it was defeated in 1683, the last time it tried to conquer Europe!
Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:52 pm to
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You’re an idiot if you believe that Islam is going to be appeased by sacrificing Israel.


more than just Israel, you have to also respect(not agree with) their Belief system, political views, and governance. Stop interference, and treat them as we would any other Christian country. Free trade. What's wrong with fair capitalism?
Posted by Alright
Back in the 225 again
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/11/08 at 7:56 pm to
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"Who said Isreal should occupy that land anyway?"

I responded Moses. That's good enough for me.




Answers like this is why there will never be peace in Israel.

This post was edited on 4/11/08 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 8:38 pm to
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more than just Israel, you have to also SUBMIT (or become dhimmis, feel submissive, and pay the Jizya) to their Belief system, political views, and governance.


Fixed it!

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Stop interference, and treat them as we would any other Christian country. Free trade. What's wrong with fair capitalism?


We don’t interfere in their countries. We don’t even use unfair capitalism. Only moonbats can be this stupid and even if we did and we don’t, it still wouldn’t justify them blowing up the WTC, the Pentagon, and the thousands of terrorist attacks that happened before 9/11 and the thousands of terrorist attacks since 9/11. What…are you a hopeless hate America idiot, Islam has an almost 1400 year track record of constant conquest and vicious terrorist attacks against non-Muslims and other Muslims who are not Muslim enough! Not to mention that unlike Christianity, Islam has never modernized, it’s the same exact religion it was when Muhammad himself was rampaging, pillaging, and raping his way across the Arabian Peninsula almost 1400 years ago! You’re a hopeless blame America mental retard! Muslims commit extreme acts of depravity because their prophet committed extreme acts of depravity, and Muslims will always commit extreme acts of depravity, it’s the way that Muslims emulate their prophet! Why did Muslims kill an estimated 270 million people in their almost 1400 year history, because America interfered with them! Give me a break; you are a hopeless loser!

Meanwhile, why don’t you explain to us why there are no Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or Hindus living in their countries, or if there are, why they are always persecuted? Yet we are supposed to bow down to them! Why are their no churches, synagogues, and temples allowed in their countries? Why are they free to evangelize in our countries, but if we do the same thing in their countries, they kill us? Why can Muslim women prove rape by the testimony of 4 male witnesses, but Christian women raped by Muslims can’t prove rape? Yeah right…you can’t even speak the critical truth about them without putting your life on the line, and this guilt riddled, self-hating loon wants the whole world to become dhimmis to the most backwards culture to ever walk the planet! What a fricking loser!
This post was edited on 4/11/08 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 9:02 pm to
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We don’t interfere in their countries.

why would you even say that?

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Islam has an almost 1400 year track record of constant conquest and vicious terrorist attacks against non-Muslims and other Muslims who are not Muslim enough

And Islam is "unique" in this regard?

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Not to mention that unlike Christianity, Islam has never modernized,

Modernazation is only 100 years old, and the Middleeast has been ravashed by the "modern people" all during this time dissallowing any and all progress.

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Meanwhile, why don’t you explain to us why there are no Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or Hindus living in their countries, or if there are, why they are always persecuted?

they do and are not.

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Why are their no churches, synagogues, and temples allowed in their countries?


Yousef Kohan Hamedani, Iranian Jewish community's rabbi, left, talks with Jewish men as groom Peyman Saketkhu, centre, and bride Sanaz Merivarzadeh, attend their wedding ceremony in a Synagogue in Tehran, Iran, on Thursday Aug. 23, 2007. LINK

Tooth, did you know that most molestors were molested? Why?
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 9:41 pm to
BTW, there are 18 synagogues in Tehran, Iran alone, shite, even Afganistan (Taliban) has a couple.

Seems if this shite was all about "killing all the jews" then wouldn't it be easier to take out the one's under your own roof first before you go after the ones in Israel/US? I guess it's just "conveniently" easier to ignore the obvious.

just google "List of synagogues in Iran" if you're interested, you can also look at synagogues by country and see that Syria has at 13 of them.
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 10:57 pm to
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why would you even say that?


I don’t know…maybe because you said:

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Stop interference, and treat them as we would any other Christian country.


Like a lunatic blame America first loon!

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And Islam is "unique" in this regard?


What other religion has an ummah that has as its highest mandate the conquering of the world via the sword per their holy books and traditions other than Islam? Did Jesus Christ rampage, pillage, and rape his way across the holy land like Muhammad? Did Jesus Christ rape 9-year-old girls like Muhammad did? Has their ever been a Christian empire like there have been several Islamic empires? How about a Hindu empire? How about a Buddhist empire? Did the Jews try to conquer to world, so they could impose the 10 commandants on it? Did all those other religions like Islam also justify their actions by citing verses and hadiths contained in the Koran and the Sunnah? Do other religions like Islam have schools of jurisprudence that lay out the institutions of Jihad warfare and the institutions of dhimmitude? Are all other religions like Islam totalitarian forms of governments as well? Is there no such thing as separation of church and state in other religions? Needless to say, despite your obvious disdain for Christianity, not to mention your utter ignorance, Christianity underwent a reformation and subsequent period of modernization! Again, Islam hasn’t and is still practiced the way it was when Muhammad was still rampaging, pillaging, and raping his way across the Arabian Peninsula.

In any event, by all means please do name another religion other than Islam that has a continuous track record like Islam of constant conquest and vicious terrorist attacks against all other religions to establish supremacy! I mean…you said that Islam wasn’t unique in that regard! Islam is responsible for killing an estimated 270 million people, how many are the other religions responsible for?

Further, whenever has Christians killed other Christians because they weren’t Christian enough? When did Hindus, Jews, and Buddhist also done the same? How about atheist killing other atheist because they weren’t atheist enough? How about agnostics and polytheists?

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Modernazation is only 100 years old,


You’re a fool; the process of modernization began with the Renaissance 14th to 17th centuries and still continues to this day. In any event, Christianity has underwent both the Renaissance and the Reformation, yet moonbats like you still ignorantly attempt to equate Christianity and other religions to Islam, which is both medieval and barbaric. Not to mention that as bad as Islam demonized Christianity, it demonizes atheist and agnostics even worse! For instance, only people of the book can become dhimmis, all others have to convert or die!

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the Middleeast has been ravashed by the "modern people" all during this time dissallowing any and all progress.


Give me a break…people of the Middle East were colonized for a maximum of 60 years by the West, most of them for even less, while Islam colonized parts of Europe for many more years, for instance, Spain was under the thumb of Islam for more than 900 years, Greece for over 350 years, the Balkans for even longer. If anything it should be the West that holds deep resentment and a grudge towards the Muslims since it had to endure Muslim domination for a lot longer!

In any event, what Muslim countries did the USA colonize? Apparently, according to you, that’s why they are targeting the USA. Even though we helped them defeat the Soviet Empire, rescued Quwait from Saddam, who, BTW, wasn’t a Muslim, and killed Orthodox Christians in the Balkans to rescue and save Muslims all in the decade of the 90s just prior to the 9/11 attacks!

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they do and are not.


I didn’t say there weren’t, I said in many Muslim countries like in Quwait, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Oman, Yemen, and Saudi Arabia, for instance, there are no non-Muslim citizens. However, in some Muslim countries there are still small remnant populations of other religions that are more often than not trapped inside Muslim countries, but in every case they are always ruthlessly oppressed and persecuted as a rule. Now per the Dhimma, they can practice their religions, but they must do it below the radar so as not to offend Muslims. They further aren’t allowed to build new churches, synagogues, or temples. Indeed, go to Saudi Arabia and attempt to evangelize or build a church and see how far you get. Indeed, just try to visit Mecca or Medina and see how far you get.

Nonetheless, as a rule those other religions are horribly oppressed. Those Jews in Iran are captives! However, Israel managed to help six of them escape last year anyway, Christians in Pakistan have often committed suicide in courts and before judges in protest because there is no justice for Christians. The Copts in Egypt are subjected to a sort of institutional form of oppression. Muslims constantly harass Christians in Indonesia, when they are not outright slaughtered. In Sudan from 1980 to 2002, 2 million Christians and Animists were slaughtered in a genocide. In 1971, 3 million Hindus were also slaughtered in a genocide in East Pakistan. In Israel, during the second Intifada, Muslims slaughtered 1100 Jewish civilians. In Lebanon, over half of the Christians have fled since the civil war in the seventies. In Jammu and Kashmir hundreds of Hindus are tortured and murdered every year by Muslims. In Iraq since 2003 over half of the Christians have fled, and the ones still stuck in Iraq or victims of attacks all the time by Muslims as a Bishop was just recently tortured and murdered and another priest was found murdered just last week. Indeed, in light of all of the above, I think it’s obvious that you are more than a little insane and more than a little absurd!

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Tooth, did you know that most molestors were molested? Why?


Welp, that explains what must have happened to you!
Posted by Toothpick
Member since Jan 2004
19468 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 11:02 pm to
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BTW, there are 18 synagogues in Tehran, Iran alone, shite, even Afganistan (Taliban) has a couple.

Seems if this shite was all about "killing all the jews" then wouldn't it be easier to take out the one's under your own roof first before you go after the ones in Israel/US? I guess it's just "conveniently" easier to ignore the obvious.

just google "List of synagogues in Iran" if you're interested, you can also look at synagogues by country and see that Syria has at 13 of them.


Why don't you goole up Dhimmitude dumb arse!
Posted by Iona Fan Man
Member since Jan 2006
27462 posts
Posted on 4/11/08 at 11:16 pm to
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Dhimmitude


freedom to live and practice your religion in an Islamic state?

Are Arabs/muslims treated "better" in the "modern" Israel?

eta: going out, we'll continue later.
This post was edited on 4/11/08 at 11:18 pm
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