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re: Texas has more acres of forest than California and currently zero fires.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:14 pm to Frank Black
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:14 pm to Frank Black
Climate Change only happens in Cali and the Caribbean per Gavin
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:15 pm to Frank Black
Almost all of the forests in Texas are planted and managed for profit while about 20% of forests in California are managed to be....forests. Wildfires are GOOD for forests...it is how they exist at all in nature. It ain't good for planted pine and related profitability. Texas has about 170 million of acres of forest with 740 thousand acres of those in forests managed for forestry ONLY...California has 100 million acres of forest with 21 million acres being managed as forests only.
There is no such thing as "same global climate". That is idiotic. There is the same global climate change, if you accept that there is global climate change. Given that it is perfectly natural that wildfires occur in the western US as part of the ecological survival of the area the climatic conditions that promote those fires will increase their frequency and impact when increased. Texas does not have the same climate. While the wind in West Texas certainly blows hard and often it is nothing like what goes on in along the pacific coast during wildfire season...and is part of nature doing what nature does in the area...and the acres of forest in West Texas, in a comparable climate to that of the west coast where fires occur, isn't close to the same acreage.
Wildfires happen and are required for healthy forests. The encroachment of people into forested areas where wildfires occur regularly and as part of the natural management of forests makes them more newsworthy and expensive. It is the same with all natural "disasters"...a Cat 5 Hurricane hitting South Padre Island is devastating but that same hurricane hitting New York dead center would be infinitely more catastrophic. Had Katrina hit Padre Island it would have been remembered as a very bad hurricane...it more or less hitting New Orleans was infinitely worse....
There is no such thing as "same global climate". That is idiotic. There is the same global climate change, if you accept that there is global climate change. Given that it is perfectly natural that wildfires occur in the western US as part of the ecological survival of the area the climatic conditions that promote those fires will increase their frequency and impact when increased. Texas does not have the same climate. While the wind in West Texas certainly blows hard and often it is nothing like what goes on in along the pacific coast during wildfire season...and is part of nature doing what nature does in the area...and the acres of forest in West Texas, in a comparable climate to that of the west coast where fires occur, isn't close to the same acreage.
Wildfires happen and are required for healthy forests. The encroachment of people into forested areas where wildfires occur regularly and as part of the natural management of forests makes them more newsworthy and expensive. It is the same with all natural "disasters"...a Cat 5 Hurricane hitting South Padre Island is devastating but that same hurricane hitting New York dead center would be infinitely more catastrophic. Had Katrina hit Padre Island it would have been remembered as a very bad hurricane...it more or less hitting New Orleans was infinitely worse....
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:17 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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British Columbia has fewer wildfires and they're all near the US border.
Climatic conditions are vastly different. The same is true of Washington State....the wildfires in WA State are not the same as those in California because the climate is as different as night and day....and there is not the same level of encroachment of man....
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:19 pm to mrgreenpants
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is very interesting how fire tend to respect borders...
Someone mentioned a few days ago that the map you've shown is for US only. Hence why the fires "stop".
Not sure if true or not.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:19 pm to Frank Black
21% of the forrested acreage in California is owned and managed by the federal government. If wildfires are indeed caused by mismanagement at least 21% of that mismanagement is out all of our feet.....
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:19 pm to Frank Black
The Today show literally just started a new climate change segment called Planet 2020.
It's first segment focused on CC causing West Coast Wildfires (no mention of intentional arson or accidental/irresponsible human activity) and that CC has also caused 5 simultaneous active Storms that had not been seen since 1971 (no mention of why CC is not responsible for '71 weather catastrophes). Then for the rest of the segment, go figure, proceeded to talk about Trump's science denial.
It's first segment focused on CC causing West Coast Wildfires (no mention of intentional arson or accidental/irresponsible human activity) and that CC has also caused 5 simultaneous active Storms that had not been seen since 1971 (no mention of why CC is not responsible for '71 weather catastrophes). Then for the rest of the segment, go figure, proceeded to talk about Trump's science denial.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 4:11 pm to oilattorney4lsu
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It’s not the same climate, geology or age of forestry. Or types of plants and trees. It’s not the same rain patterns, temperature, humidity, etc.
Or forestry management practices.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:02 pm to Gtmodawg
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..and is part of nature doing what nature does in the area.
So, it's just nature doing what it naturally does NOT global warming.
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:40 pm to Frank Black
Less homeless living in the woods. FACT
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:42 pm to Frank Black
Probably cuz E Texas is plenty wet and W Texas is sand. Few trees in the middle
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:43 pm to SelaTiger
quote:That's because Texas is so big and awesome that it makes its own climate!
Global warming has not made it to Texas yet
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:52 pm to Frank Black
quote:
August 17, 2020
Continued hot and dry conditions across much of the state have resulted in increased wildfire activity, particularly in north central Texas and in areas along the Interstate-35 corridor, the Texas A&M Forest Service reports.
Activity and fuel dryness is expanding north and east into higher population centers, including further east along the Interstate-45 corridor as well.
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Consecutive days of triple digit temperatures across much of the state has accelerated the drying in wildland vegetation and created a conducive environment for the ignition and spread of wildfires.
In a media release, Brad Smith, head of the Texas A&M Forest Service Predictive Services Department, said: “Many of these wildfires are starting late in the day, or early evening, when we observe daily peak heating and an increase in gusty winds.”
A cold front that is forecast to move into the state early this week will likely end the streak of 100-degree days, but is not expected to provide enough rainfall to improve the vegetative dryness that is supporting wildfire activity.
Over the seven days previous to Aug. 13, state and local resources responded to 94 fires that had burned 5,483 acres. This includes many large, multi-day fires including the still-smoldering Pennington Creek Fire in Palo Pinto and Jack Counties at 2,654 acres and 95% containment. Activity in central portions of the state increased this week with new fires in Brown, Mills, Caldwell, Williamson, and Bastrop Counties.
Many of the recent wildfire starts have been attributed to human activities — such as debris burning — and are preventable. So far in 2020, 902 wildfires that have burned 10,994 acres were the result of debris burning. This includes 16 fires that have burned 104 acres recently.
Since Jan. 1, 2020, state and local resources have responded to 3,330 fires that have burned a total of 171,204 acres. Aviation resources have flown 1,510 hours, dropping 1,517,151 gallons of water and retardant on Texas wildfires so far this year.
The majority of wildfires in Texas are human caused. With hot and dry conditions statewide, many counties in Texas are currently under a burn ban.
Source: Texas A&M Forest Service
LINK
Posted on 9/21/20 at 11:58 pm to Jim Rockford
So the OP is fake news?
Posted on 9/22/20 at 12:00 am to GeorgeTheGreek
I report. You decide.
Posted on 9/22/20 at 12:01 am to Gtmodawg
Fun fact: wildfires are necessary for giant sequoia to reproduce
Posted on 9/22/20 at 12:12 am to jmarto1
Ponderosa pines also
Posted on 9/22/20 at 12:48 am to Frank Black
Two possible reasons:
Texas liberals don't set fire to shite.
OR
We manage underbrush and forest management is actually done annually.
Texas liberals don't set fire to shite.
OR
We manage underbrush and forest management is actually done annually.
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