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re: Revenge of the Kurds
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:47 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:47 am to TigerintheNO
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HBO's Vice has a really good piece on the Kurds in Syria. Also a oil tanker with Kurdish crude oil left port with a million barrels of oil earlier this week, they just need to find a buyer.
Everybody says the Kurds are cool. I say it's time to consolidate in the ME. Let's make an alliance with the Kurds. We'll agree to help form and defend their new country in exchange for cheap oil. Everyone else can go frick themselves or kill themselves or whatever. I don't really give a shite.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:48 am to carbola
I see Batman has his own airport.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:00 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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HBO's Vice has a really good piece on the Kurds in Syria. Also a oil tanker with Kurdish crude oil left port with a million barrels of oil earlier this week, they just need to find a buyer.
Everybody says the Kurds are cool. I say it's time to consolidate in the ME. Let's make an alliance with the Kurds. We'll agree to help form and defend their new country in exchange for cheap oil. Everyone else can go frick themselves or kill themselves or whatever. I don't really give a shite.
Not exactly a smart move. They have a fair amount of oil, but the Saudis and Iranians have far more. They also lack money, population, military might, land area, good will, ect. We would be backing a group that by us backing them, would be doomed to failure. However, if we could get a coalition of Kurds and one other group (Sunnis or Shias), then we would be somewhere.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:03 am to kingbob
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Not exactly a smart move. They have a fair amount of oil, but the Saudis and Iranians have far more. They also lack money, population, military might, land area, good will, ect. We would be backing a group that by us backing them, would be doomed to failure. However, if we could get a coalition of Kurds and one other group (Sunnis or Shias), then we would be somewhere.
Are there really any smart moves in the ME?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:06 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Are there really any smart moves in the ME?
Yes. Leave.
However, poor domestic policy begats poor international policy. By having an inefficient and unsustainable energy policy at home, it has led us into inefficient and unsustainable practices with unreliable trade partners abroad. If we truly, efficiently utilized our resources and those of our neighbors (Mexico and Canada), we could leave the Middle East entirely.
However, because of our poor domestic energy policies, we can't. Even if we could, we wouldn't because Europe needs that energy and they don't have the stones to take it. We did all of the dirty work in Iraq so the EU could have the oil.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:08 am to kingbob
We both know that's not going to happen. At least for not another 30 years. So what do we do in the mean time to protect our economic interest and avoid being drawn into a full scale regional war?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:11 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Drill at home. Build the Keystone XL Pipeline. Frak like there's no tomorrow, build more refineries, build more nuclear plants, stop shuttering the coal industry, ect. If we do this, we could be the Saudi Arabia of coal and gas while producing enough oil between ourselves and Canada to supply us endlessly without the Middle East. If this administration had not been so obstructive to these ends, we'd be months away, not decades.
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:12 am to kingbob
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If this administration had not been so obstructive to these ends, we'd be months away, not decades.
But we are decades away. So what now?
Posted on 6/13/14 at 11:55 am to I B Freeman
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I wonder carbola do the Kurds prefer the Iranian supported Shites to control Iraq or the Sunni.
So I asked one of the Kurds sitting next to me here is more or less what he said:
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Neither. Most of the people in Kurdistan are Sunni. Saddam was also a Sunni and he killed a lot of Kurds. Now we have Shite's in power and we are still having lots of issues with the government. Our issue isn't with Sunni or Shite it's with Arabs.
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