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re: Question about our debt ?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:06 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:06 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Who was lied to about the law or mechanisms of payment?
Well, for one thing, the law's title is a lie:
Affordable Care Act.
Yeah, right. Affordable, my arse.
I remember Hussein selling it in the '08 debates as a way to solve our economic woes. LOL.
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:07 pm to texashorn
quote:
Well, for one thing, the law's title is a lie:
Premiums increased at the lowest rate in decades after its passage. I'd call that pretty affordable!
Also, it gave access to insurance for 20M+ Americans who previously couldn't afford it. So win there, too!
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:08 pm to BamaAtl
How about deductibles, dumbass?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:09 pm to BamaAtl
Obamacare is brilliant. Why anyone would want to repeal it is beyond me.
The middle class should pay higher premiums and higher deductibles. They voted for Trump.
The middle class should pay higher premiums and higher deductibles. They voted for Trump.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:09 pm to BamaAtl
Oh, here you are.
Spinning and lying.
Spinning and lying.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:11 pm to BamaAtl
Dems lied to america. Obama said if you like your plan you could keep it. A lie.
Obama said you could keep your dr. A lie.
Dems tax every American with our healthcare. They forgot to mention that. That's why we have preside trump!
Obama said you could keep your dr. A lie.
Dems tax every American with our healthcare. They forgot to mention that. That's why we have preside trump!
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:13 pm to BamaAtl
But healthcare services charges increased at the highest level ever.
Dr. visits up 80% in 2 years
Dr. visits up 80% in 2 years
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:15 pm to goofball
quote:
Obamacare is brilliant. Why anyone would want to repeal it is beyond me.
The ACA needs some tweaks, for sure.
It doesn't need to be nuked from orbit, and thus deprive 20M individuals from access to health care.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:15 pm to BamaAtl
Dems lied to america. Obama said if you like your plan you could keep it. A lie.
Obama said you could keep your dr. A lie.
Dems tax every American with our healthcare. They forgot to mention that. That's why we have preside trump!
Obama said you could keep your dr. A lie.
Dems tax every American with our healthcare. They forgot to mention that. That's why we have preside trump!
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:15 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Premiums increased at the lowest rate in decades after its passage.
I doubt that. You see, you are referring to fake news again. Maybe for the end-user, premiums flattened, but what about for the taxpayer who is subsidizing the rest?
Aren't Dems bleating for more ACA premium subsidy money? Why would that be so if premiums were falling?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:15 pm to FutureRATeammember
quote:
Dems tax every American with our healthcare
So do Republicans. Obviously.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:17 pm to BamaAtl
Does that make it OK to you?
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:17 pm to BamaAtl
Dems lied to america. Obama said if you like your plan you could keep it. A lie.
Obama said you could keep your dr. A lie.
Dems tax every American with our healthcare. They forgot to mention that. That's why we have preside trump!
Obama said you could keep your dr. A lie.
Dems tax every American with our healthcare. They forgot to mention that. That's why we have preside trump!
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Does that make it OK to you?
I would much rather pay taxes to help the weakest and poorest among us do a little better than to pay Exxon for executive bonuses or Raytheon for another $5M missile.
It's more that it wasn't okay to him only because it was Democrats doing the taxing.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:20 pm to FutureRATeammember
From NPR (of all places):
LINK
Everyone loses except deadbeat Dems.
quote:
The cost of health insurance under the Affordable Care Act is expected to rise an average of 22 percent in 2017, according to information released by the Obama administration Monday afternoon.
Still, federal subsidies will also rise, meaning that few people are likely to have to pay the full cost after the rate increases to get insurance coverage.
LINK
Everyone loses except deadbeat Dems.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:21 pm to BamaAtl
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I would much rather pay taxes to help the weakest and poorest among us do a little better than to pay Exxon for executive bonuses or Raytheon for another $5M missile.
Good for you. I'd prefer neither.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Good for you. I'd prefer neither.
We're going to have taxes. Let's use them wisely, instead of to enrich the oligarchs.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:24 pm to BamaAtl
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t doesn't need to be nuked from orbit, and thus deprive 20M individuals from access to health care.
Exactly. Without the genius of Obamacare, these people would have no access to health care at all. It would be like the Bush years all over again.
If it forces a few in the middle class to pay more in premiums than their mortgage....it's worth it. They voted for Trump so they deserve it.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:24 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
We're going to have taxes.
Sure. I'm a reasonable person. Taxes that aren't redistributed to others are mostly OK.
quote:
Let's use them wisely, instead of to enrich the oligarchs.
I'm fine with that. I'd just ask that we include not using them to promote lifelong dependency in large parts of the population.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:25 pm to BamaAtl
Meanwhile, the ACA is heavily subsidizing (you guessed it) the big insurance companies that BamaAtl considers evil.
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