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re: Protestor at Alabama game Saturday
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:16 pm to Elblancodiablo
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:16 pm to Elblancodiablo
quote:I'm not conflicted whatsoever. Feel free to point out any inconsistencies
You are mighty fricking conflicted then. Do you realize that the more palestinians the IDF smokes, the smaller our problems become?
1) I don't think "smoking" innocent Palestinians is morally right
2) I don't think that number with ever rise to the level that it would alleviate legitimate concerns over a refugee crisis
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:19 pm to Pecker
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1) I don't think "smoking" innocent Palestinians is morally right
Your argument is against war then, because its unreasonable to call off a justified war simply because an innocent may die.
This war cannot be won on those terms and Hamas wins.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I'm not against war. I'm not against total war. I know that "just" war can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. But I know right from wrong. And I know when a "just" pretext is being used to commit unjust acts. It's a moral compass thing.
Your argument is against war then, because its unreasonable to call off a justified war simply because an innocent may die.
I'm not going to pretend that Hamas is uniquely evil while hand waving away atrocities committed in the opposite direction. War or no war.
This post was edited on 11/7/23 at 2:51 am
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:26 pm to Pecker
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is being used to commit unjust acts.
Is your belief Israel is purposely targeting civilians with no military interest?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:28 pm to Pecker
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I don't think "smoking" innocent Palestinians is morally right
Then just admit you're soft and let that be the end of the discussion.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I believe that Israel is strategically targeting areas that put the most pressure on Palestinians to collectively move further into Sinai. The locations targeted irrespective of their being civilian or military
Is your belief Israel is purposely targeting civilians with no military interest?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:30 pm to Elblancodiablo
quote:I've addressed this already. I'm a Christian so, yeah I'm at a disadvantage here in that I believe in something more than violence
Then just admit you're soft and let that be the end of the discussion.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:31 pm to Pecker
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But I know right from wrong. And I know when a "just" pretext is being used to commit unjust acts. It's a moral compass thing.
You are in the position to know what is just for the israelis killed by palestinians? Tell me how
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:32 pm to Pecker
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I believe that Israel is strategically targeting areas that put the most pressure on Palestinians to collectively move further into Sinai. The locations targeted irrespective of their being civilian or military
I'm not sure I can disprove that, but I dont think it can be proved either.
I dont think Israel can get away with resettling Palestinians, theres too much global pressure on them to show restraint.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm not sure I can disprove that, but I dont think it can be proved either.
I dont think Israel can get away with resettling Palestinians, theres too much global pressure on them to show restraint.
Time will prove it, either way. But I have no doubt that this is their goal. The global pressure is why they need America's "unconditional" support
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:36 pm to Pecker
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I believe that Israel is strategically targeting areas that put the most pressure on Palestinians to collectively move further into Sinai. The locations targeted irrespective of their being civilian or military
That is a very serious accusation. Any proof of this?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:36 pm to Elblancodiablo
Discussed already. See Bunk Moreland's post
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I dont think Israel can get away with resettling Palestinians, theres too much global pressure on them to show restraint
I don't think they worry too much about global pressure as long as it's not coming from us.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:41 pm to Elblancodiablo
They do. It's what's constrained them to this point. That, and American bribery. Literally
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:46 pm to Elblancodiablo
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I don't think they worry too much about global pressure as long as it's not coming from us.
We've paid them for restraint for a while.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 4:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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We've paid them for restraint for a while.
Correct. It's like a timeshare agreement people get into. It's an open ended contract that you never know how much it will cost. I am tired of our timeshare contract with israel.
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