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re: Not Just An Innocent Jogger!
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:03 am to ljhog
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:03 am to ljhog
quote:
You still can't just chase him down and kill him.
According to Georgia law you may "chase him down" to effect a citizen's arrest. The shooting is a whole other matter.
To affect a citizen's arrest, per Ga statute you must have Immediate (first hand) knowledge of a Felony.
So no, they had no right to chase him down.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 10:04 am
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:05 am to IHateToThinkIDidnt
quote:
Your bias blinds you.
You have clearly shown an unbiased and level headed opinion on this situation as well as many others.
I am sorry I have my eyes blinded to the real truth.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:06 am to TiketheMiger
Last week I thought they deserved a murder 2 charge. After seeing more evidence it appears to be manslaughter at most. It all depends on the current facts and what Georgia law states.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:07 am to jimdog
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Third get a job and work hard and don't be a thief.
Link to evidence of Ahmaud having stolen anything before being murdered?
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Lastly don't jump a person with a loaded firearm and try to take it.
I guess that's one way to frame it, the other would be he was chased and cornered by two armed racists and found himself in a horrible position where he had to fight for his life.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:08 am to More&Les
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To affect a citizen's arrest, per Ga statute you must have Immediate (first hand) knowledge of a Felony.
So no, they had no right to chase him down.
I think a lot of that depends on what Georgia law determines that unoccupied house to be.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:08 am to TiketheMiger
quote:I would like to know why this case gets you so outraged but you have no fricking problem whatsoever with more than twice as many whites being killed by blacks every year in this country than the reverse and that has been true for damn near fifty years consecutively at least.
You have clearly shown an unbiased and level headed opinion on this situation as well as many others.
I am sorry I have my eyes blinded to the real truth
I mean you do understand the concept of population disparities in per capita and how your population percentage of affects crime statistics right
I mean you do understand that 40 million should not commit more of something than 197 million
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:09 am to Tri City Tigers
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Last week I thought they deserved a murder 2 charge. After seeing more evidence it appears to be manslaughter at most. It all depends on the current facts and what Georgia law states.
I was commenting on this other guy talking about a completely unrelated case.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:09 am to IHateToThinkIDidnt
quote:
but you have no fricking problem whatsoever with more than twice as many whites being killed by blacks every year in this country than the reverse and that has been true for damn near fifty years consecutively at least.
Nice deflection and strawman
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:10 am to Damone
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I guess that's one way to frame it, the other would be he was chased and cornered by two armed racists and found himself in a horrible position where he had to fight for his life.
The guy took off running from the house once the neighbor came outside. There are more witnesses that we have not heard from yet in this case. I'm sure Ahmad knew why he was being chased.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:10 am to IHateToThinkIDidnt
quote:I once got banned for pointing out those very stats.
more than twice as many whites being killed by blacks every year in this country than the reverse and that has been true for damn near fifty years consecutively at least.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:11 am to TiketheMiger
quote:
I was commenting on this other guy talking about a completely unrelated case.
I'm just dropping my two cents and it wasn't meant as a reply to you.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:11 am to Captain Crown
Link of her tweets
I probably spoke too soon, candace deleted her tweet and rephrased it... owens twitter page
but I saw videos yesterday...of men entering a home /building under construction...heck I've done this many times, and I've done it jogging in Houston Texas
not sure it's been confirmed he or they took anything...from the site
I did read the owner claimed nothing had been taken
as home builder for 30 years, theft is a reality
it happens more than people think...
I probably spoke too soon, candace deleted her tweet and rephrased it... owens twitter page
but I saw videos yesterday...of men entering a home /building under construction...heck I've done this many times, and I've done it jogging in Houston Texas
not sure it's been confirmed he or they took anything...from the site
I did read the owner claimed nothing had been taken
as home builder for 30 years, theft is a reality
it happens more than people think...
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:12 am to Zarkinletch416
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I notice you said you ask them to leave not chase them down and execute them.... Are you soft?
Are you soft, you ask? Are you trying to trap me into admitting that I'm a racist? For the record I'm not. But I am a guy who once dabbled in real estate, and I had to deal with unauthorized entry on MY properties. I could spend the rest of the day telling you stories about how crooks work. How they attempt to disguise viewings, all the while casing out the joint, and sizing you up. It happens. You learn to deal with it.
I will say this, the crooks are winning.
And Im in construction plus I have a designer for a wife. I am aware of people walking into unlocked unfinished homes on the reg and ive done it myself plus its like a hobby to my wife. Im not aware of this misdemeanor behavior carrying the death Penalty and no, Im not trying to call you a racist.
For the millionth fricking time, idgaf what race anyone involved is. A man was chased down, cornered and summarily executed for possibly walking into an unlocked and unfinished house and the local authorities covered for the murderers likely because the dad used to tote a badge. Just damn.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:13 am to IHateToThinkIDidnt
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I would like to know why this case gets you so outraged but you have no fricking problem whatsoever with more than twice as many whites being killed by blacks every year in this country than the reverse and that has been true for damn near fifty years consecutively at least.
Not outraged at all just sharing my opinion. Why do you think my opinion on this one case some how leads you to know exactly how I would comment and feel on some completely unrelated case with completely different circumstances?
Do you really think because I am sticking up for the black guy who was wrongly killed in this case means I would not ever stick up for a white person wrongly killed?
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:14 am to ApexTiger
quote:
heck I've done this many times, and I've done it jogging in Houston Texas
not sure it's been confirmed he or they took anything...from the site
I did read the owner claimed nothing had been taken
as home builder for 30 years, theft is a reality
it happens more than people think...
I have too, but the guy was spotted in the house and took off running. That's not the correct way to handle the situation if being in the house is considered trespassing.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:14 am to ljhog
quote:
According to Georgia law you may "chase him down" to effect a citizen's arrest. The shooting is a whole other matter.
One more time for the people in the back....
YOU
HAVE
TO
WITNESS
THE
CRIME
FIRST
HAND
The dad's own statement to police was that they only saw him running by. The didn't know who he was or what he may have done.
quote:
TITLE 17 - CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
CHAPTER 4 - ARREST OF PERSONS
ARTICLE 4 - ARREST BY PRIVATE PERSONS
§ 17-4-60 - Grounds for arrest
O.C.G.A. 17-4-60 (2010)
17-4-60. Grounds for arrest
A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest him upon reasonable and probable grounds of suspicion.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:15 am to Tri City Tigers
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I think a lot of that depends on what Georgia law determines that unoccupied house to be.
Its trespassing at most, a misdemeanor. There's no depends on....
There was NO felony for them to have immediate knowledge of.
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:16 am to More&Les
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The media has zero to do with my fricking opinion, i purposefully search youtube for the full video and have watched it about 10 times to make sure im accurately portraying whats on the video. AND I read the actual police report as well as the DA's recusal letter.
The DA lied about the video. Period.
The McRednecks lied to the cops, period.
And the cops apparently lied to Arbery's mother.
From the video, I can plainly see Arbery tried to avoid the confrontation, I can see that Travis moved from his original position to cut off egress and I hear the first shot before Arbery touches Travis or the gun. It was NOT self defense. Period.
Murder.
Cover up.
ok, I take your word for it for now, you are way ahead of me on this case, I haven't even seen 'the video"...
just don't care to see a person die
this will sort itself like they always do....the have the shooters in custody right? so...no more wondering where the murderer is, right?
I've learned over the years to form an opinion after a real journalist gets their teeth in the case...I don't trust what I am fed at this point
it's how these things go...not always but usually....
what is the motive to kill? Running while black? Give me a break
keep researching the case and report back
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 10:19 am
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:17 am to More&Les
What do you call the dead black guy who was a known criminal?
Posted on 5/12/20 at 10:18 am to Hogs78
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What do you call the dead black guy who was a known criminal?
You keep throwing out that he was a known criminal. He had the gun charge in 2013 and a shoplifting charge in 2018. What else is on his rap sheet to make him a known criminal?
eta: And none of this shite matters because the two ole boys broke the law by following him and attempting to stop and talk to him. That was well outside of their rights here.
This post was edited on 5/12/20 at 10:19 am
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