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re: North Koreans lose right to choose.....
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:41 pm to DanTiger
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:41 pm to DanTiger
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Sub-Saharan Africa is pretty bad as well. At least NK os cold enough to limit the number of warm weather diseases seen in Africa.
But at least folks in Africa haven't had their spirit taken away, which is why we always hear stories about coups, revolutions and civil wars in different parts of Africa. Those folks realize they're being governed poorly and they don't peacefully accept it.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:49 pm to Big12fan
Do you even"P'yongwong Pompadour" bro?
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:56 pm to Big12fan
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Men in North Korea
The linked article was wrong. Changed to:
"North Korea: Students required to get Kim Jong-un haircut"
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:05 pm to trackfan
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North Korea is certainly not the first nation with an oppressive totalitarian dictator, but it's the only place that can recall where such an oppressed population is so docile. In other such places, there's constant domestic turmoil or at least a sense of discontent among the populace, and the dictator is always on the lookout for signs of a revolution being fomented. There have been a lot of deposed/executed dictators who wished they would have known North Korea's secret.
NK probably has the best deterrent to insurrection - punish the entire family.
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One of the most striking features of North Korea's philosophy of social control is collective responsibility. Persons who commit crimes may be punished, but so may their parents, siblings, and other relatives, regardless of their individual innocence or guilt. Likewise, persons may be blacklisted, not just for their own political opinions or actions, but for the imputed opinions or actions of relatives, even long-dead ancestors. This notion of guilt by association is inimical to modern conceptions of human rights.
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North Korean law dictates a “three generations of punishment” policy: If you commit a crime, your children and grandchildren will carry the stains of your sin and be punished accordingly. That means that if your grandfather committed a crime, you get to bear the full brunt of his punishment. As mentioned above, this usually leads to entire lives spent inside prison camps. One of the worst offenses that a North Korean can commit is attempting to leave North Korea, which can justify either immediate execution or an extended sentence in one of their labor camps.
Criticizing the government, no matter how slightly, is also considered a treasonous offense. Simply learning about other cultures warrants a death sentence. Recent smuggling between the border of North Korea and China has allowed some people to get DVDs of Western movies—which are illegal. The North Korean National Security Agency has begun raiding villages in the north of the country by shutting off the electricity to a whole village then storming into houses and checking which DVDs are stuck in the DVD player.
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:19 pm to Big12fan
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a “three generations of punishment” policy: If you commit a crime, your children and grandchildren will carry the stains of your sin and be punished accordingly. That means that if your grandfather committed a crime, you get to bear the full brunt of his punishment.
So they are Klingon?
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:33 pm to Big12fan
You would think there would be enough empathy from fellow Asains to implore their governments to do something about North Korea. China could put an end to this nightmare tomorrow if they wanted to without any interference from West or the U.N. Although the Holocaust was perpetrated by the Gemrans, there's still a sense of collective guilt in all of Europe 70 years later because of what they allowed to happen to their fellow Europeans. I wonder if there will be a similar sense of shame in Asian countries if the North Korean regime ever collapses and the true scope of these horrors are laid bare for the whole world to see.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:42 pm to trackfan
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You would think there would be enough empathy from fellow Asains to implore their governments to do something about North Korea. China could put an end to this nightmare tomorrow if they wanted to without any interference from West or the U.N. Although the Holocaust was perpetrated by the Gemrans, there's still a sense of collective guilt in all of Europe 70 years later because of what they allowed to happen to their fellow Europeans. I wonder if there will be a similar sense of shame in Asian countries if the North Korean regime ever collapses and the true scope of these horrors are laid bare for the whole world to see.
What is interesting is what the people of N. Korea might be like if their regime collapsed and suddenly, they had access to all sorts of outside information?
The level of confusion would be enormous. It would be like seeing the results of a massive social experiment with an entire population that wouldn't be greatly different than what has happened in a few of those "captive" children cases. Ya know. The ones where the kid never left their room and had no outside stimuli?
I don't know. It would be interesting to see.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:18 pm to SettleDown
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It would be interesting to see.
100% correct.
Posted on 3/26/14 at 8:31 pm to goatmilker
it's not the worst haircut i've ever seen ...
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:34 am to Big12fan
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Men in North Korea are now required to get the same haircut as their leader Kim Jong-un, it is reported.
He must hate hippies.
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