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re: Nobel Winner to Obama on Global Warming: 'Mr. President, You're Wrong'

Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26295 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:02 pm to
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Is it acceptable if I were to ask Dr. Roy Spencer?


Absolutely. But it would be a little disengenuous to only ask him, id ask as many sources as I could. If you're going to him simply because you know his stance and then to no one else then it might defeat the purpose of broad research.

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Is he an expert in your opinion?


Oh yeah for sure. He's definitely got a different opinion than the majority, but that shouldn't count him out of discussion.

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Or as you say a kook?


Oh this is where you were going with your post.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3171 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:13 pm to
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Oh yeah for sure. He's definitely got a different opinion than the majority, but that shouldn't count him out of discussion. 


But thats exactly what those with the man made opinion did to him. Im not saying hes right or wrong. Im just pointing out that just about every scientist that disagrees has been ridiculed.


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Oh this is where you were going with your post. 


Im not going anywhere, this so called majority of experts went there.

My opinion, as ive already stated, is that we dont know enough to do anything except come up with a THEORY. Theories are proven wrong all the time, but it makes it really hard to prove something when the majority mock and ridicule.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26295 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:21 pm to
There are acclaimed scientists that don't think there's conclusive evidence of evolution. I don't think they're stupid, but I don't think they're right either.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94860 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:22 pm to
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Theories are proven wrong all the time, but it makes it really hard to prove something when the majority mock and ridicule.


And when one hears how various governments are planning to criminally punish climate skeptics, it is hard not to classify it as a dogmatic belief, rising to the level of a religion or at least faith. It's definitely anti-science to even attempt to silence critics.

Critics and skeptics are REQUIRED of science - essential to its well being even.
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3171 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:41 pm to
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 don't think they're stupid, but I don't think they're right either.


Edison thought dc was the way and fired tesla and ridiculed ac. How'd that work out?

I dont think either were stupid or wrong.

How much tax money is spent on trying to prove man made climate change vs how much is spent on trying to prove it isnt man made?

And you call that science?
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15911 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 3:51 pm to
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No. Because the data is falsified.
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Hoax



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It's called 'selecting the conclusion you want.




Hmmmmmm..........
Posted by djmicrobe
Planet Earth
Member since Jan 2007
4970 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 6:26 pm to
ASTROMETRIA Study

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Thus, the observed global warming on the Earth is not caused by human-induced greenhouse gases emission, but mostly by unusually high intensity of the solar radiation during the whole passed century. The coming decrease of global temperature will take place even if the anthropogenic CO2 emission will reach record high levels in the future.

The interesting fact is that in XX century global warming took place on Mars as well as on the Earth. This global warming has been caused by considerable and prolonged increase in TSI in XX century. NASA researches were keeping a track of changes on the surface of our neighbour planet — Mars over the period from 1999 to 2005 and they have discovered a gradual melting of ice on its south pole during three Martian years and a simultaneous global warming on Mars, without, of course any participation of Martians and greenhouse effect caused by them. The same simultaneous global warming as on Mars and on the Earth have also been observed on the Jupiter, Triton (a satellite of Neptune), Pluto and several other planets of the solar system. These warmings can only be consequence of the same and only factor ? a prolonged and unusually high value of the TSI during almost whole XX century. The simultaneous global warmings on the Earth, Mars and in virtually whole solar system are the phenomena of the natural solar origin and are caused by natural ? astronomic reasons and not by industrial activity of the humans.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
39350 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 10:51 pm to
The rate at which the earth is warming is 10 times faster than anything seen in the last 2 million years.

Did Doc Brown fire up the flux capacitor and tell you this? When you throw statements like this out when there is no way to know it doesn't enhance your argument.
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