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re: Nevada county will charge inmates for food and medical care
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:32 pm to novabill
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:32 pm to novabill
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How about we get rid of the ones that tell me what I can and cannot put in my body.
It isn't that simple.
Some people will steal from or rob innocent people in order to get the money to put whatever they want in their body.
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I think we need laws to protect people like you from people like me.
Are you a thief who steals from or robs innocent people in order to get the money to pay for drug of your choice that you want to put in your body?
If you are then I agree with you.
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I do not think we need laws to protect people from themselves.
It depends on how you get your money to pay for the drugs you want to put in your body.
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Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:34 pm to DawgfaninCa
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The inmates no longer have access to their good paying jobs as drug dealers, thieves, pimps, prostitutes, etc. so some on the loony left are upset that a Nevada county is going to make them pay for their own meals and medical care.
Wow. How insane it would be for the state to have to pay for its wards.
I'm sure prisoners have lots of money to pay for everything.
We should just eliminate all taxes - except charge the prisoners $10,000 per meal - then we can fund the entire government off of it!
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:36 pm to SpidermanTUba
Well that makes this train wreck complete, all it needed was ObtuseTUba up in this beotch. 
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:37 pm to MagicCityBlazer
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You sure are angry. Why don't you tell me calmly why I'm wrong about ending prohibition?
Why are you hijacking my thread about making convicted criminals in prison pay for their own food and medical care in order to talk about your pet social cause of making personal drug use legal?
Start your own damn thread on the subject and stop talking about it here!
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:39 pm to DawgfaninCa
Well I think he went to get some more Cheetos so no worries. Oh and Joe Arpaio is my hero.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:41 pm to Jbird
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So where do you draw the line, so let's get rid of banishment of lead based paint, what business is it of mine if you gnaw on your woodwork.
The problem is that you sell the house with the paint and then impact someone else.
The line for me is simple. when you hurt someone else.
There are many things I disagree with and think are wrong, immoral or harmful, but that does not mean I think they should be against the law.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:42 pm to Hawkeye95
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I DO NOT FREEBASE COCAINE
I love that video, Shane Caldwell a great american.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:43 pm to DawgfaninCa
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I know and in your response you used a tactic that the loony left use.
If you care to go back and read what I was responding, you will see the sarcasm.
He was saying that people that skip school and puff the mj become killers.
I was exposing his silly position.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:43 pm to novabill
quote:Ah yes the non violent drug scene.
The line for me is simple. when you hurt someone else.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:44 pm to SpidermanTUba
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I'm sure prisoners have lots of money to pay for everything.
I'm sure most of the prisoners who are convicted drug dealers, thieves, pimps, prostitutes, etc. have more money than you or me.
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We should just eliminate all taxes - except charge the prisoners $10,000 per meal - then we can fund the entire government off of it!
There's that loony left tactic again of making up an absurd example in a feeble attempt to imply that anyone who thinks that convicted criminals in prison should pay for their own food and medical care is crazy.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:46 pm to DawgfaninCa
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You make up an absurd example and imply that I and others who agree with me think people are forced by drug dealers to use drug
No I do not think you are saying that.
I was saying that people are not forced to do drugs. They choose to put them in their body, and I am for allowing them to do so.
I feel so misunderstood
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:48 pm to DawgfaninCa
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It isn't that simple.
Some people will steal from or rob innocent people in order to get the money to put whatever they want in their body.
Some people will use guns to rob people too. Should we outlaw the mode of robbery as well as the motivation for the robbery?
People rob and steal for money for a number of purposes, not just drugs.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:51 pm to Jbird
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Ah yes the non violent drug scene.
Why do you care what I put in my body?
I am not sure what you mean by your post.
When considering all laws, I look for who is being hurt. If one's actions does not harm another, I usually do not see a valid reason to have a law regarding their actions.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:52 pm to novabill
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The line for me is simple. when you hurt someone else.
There are many things I disagree with and think are wrong, immoral or harmful, but that does not mean I think they should be against the law.
Let me try to understand what you are saying.
if someone is poor and stole from or robbed an innocent person in order to get the money to pay for the weed they wanted to smoke then you have no problem making them pay for their own food and medical bills but if someone is rich and didn't have to steal from or rob an innocent person in order to get the money to pay for the weed they wanted to smoke then you have a problem making them pay for their own food and medical bills.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 12:53 pm to DawgfaninCa
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I'm sure most of the prisoners who are convicted drug dealers, thieves, pimps, prostitutes, etc. have more money than you or me.
Prostitutes, really?
You've got less money than a typical street whore?
Sorry you're so down and out man!
I'm doing a bit better than that. I guess I should count myself lucky.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:00 pm to novabill
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Some people will use guns to rob people too. Should we outlaw the mode of robbery as well as the motivation for the robbery?
People rob and steal for money for a number of purposes, not just drugs.
Another loony left tactic.
Muddy up the clear water in an attempt to confuse the issue so people won't know what to do.
It's crystal clear. It doesn't matter what someone uses to rob or steal from an innocent person in order to get the money or something of value that they can sell to pay for the weed they want to put in their body.
This post was edited on 2/12/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:04 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Prostitutes, really?
You've got less money than a typical street whore?
Sorry you're so down and out man!
I'm doing a bit better than that. I guess I should count myself lucky.
I'm not talking about the crack whores who will sell their bodies on the street to pay for their habit.
Can you afford to be driven around in a limo like many prostitutes can?
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:05 pm to DawgfaninCa
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Let me try to understand what you are saying.
if someone is poor and stole from or robbed an innocent person in order to get the money to pay for the weed they wanted to smoke then you have no problem making them pay for their own food and medical bills but if someone is rich and didn't have to steal from or rob an innocent person in order to get the money to pay for the weed they wanted to smoke then you have a problem making them pay for their own food and medical bills.
I was not even in that conversation. I was talking about the legality of drugs.
I think the idea of making them pay is simply a political move. They will not have the funds to pay for their meals. Some will have family that will pay, so that it is possible for the inmate to have some money for snacks and what not. But other than that, where are the inmates going to come up with the proceeds to pay.
Soon guys knowing they are about to be going back to jail will rob so that they can send the money to the jail and have some money in their account on the inside.
Ironic.
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:07 pm to DawgfaninCa
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It's crystal clear. It doesn't matter what someone uses to rob or steal from an innocent person in order to get the money or something of value that they can sell to pay for the weed they want to put in their body
It does not muddy the water.
you want to make something illegal BECAUSE someone may rob to buy it.
yet, you do not want to consider the method by which they commit the robbery.
My point is that robbery is illegal regardless of the method or the motivation.
I agree the argument I used is weak, but no weaker than your argument that drugs should be illegal because people rob to pay for them
Posted on 2/12/14 at 1:08 pm to novabill
quote:They don't need to do that, they get mailing adresses off other inmates mail and have their non violent buddies pay the family a visit, they tell them to cough up some Benjamins for the incarecerated friend, if not your loved one will get a shiv to the ribs.
Soon guys knowing they are about to be going back to jail will rob so that they can send the money to the jail and have some money in their account on the inside.
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