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re: Mexican commits suicide after deportation from the United States

Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:58 am to
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:58 am to
quote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. 


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all men are created equal


The founding fathers didn't think so.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:59 am to
That has nothing to do with business, Chief
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:59 am to
Let's simplify. I'll make a couple of guesses. You tell me if I'm right or not.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:02 am to
Sure I'll play. Gonna go to bed soon so let's make it quick.
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:03 am to
Okay. Let's assume that you are black and that you are midtwenties.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:07 am to
I'm a white male Christian age 25 with a good job and a college degree. I've been to 18 countries and 20 states. I was raised by a southern conservative middle class family. Lived in Texas my whole life. I voted for Johnson in the last two elections because I feel it is important to cast a ballot, but I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils. I'm also ashamed that I voted for Cruz for Senate.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 1:11 am
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:08 am to
I don't believe that. Let's assume it's true, though.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:08 am to
Why would I lie...I have no reason to lie to you...
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:11 am to
Yes you do. Disregarding that, we will assume you are honest. Its a stretch, but we will try. What aspect of personal rights do you find so aggregious?
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:12 am to
I dont lie. Lying is pointless, especially on an internet forum. That's an extremely broad question and I don't know how to answer it.
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:15 am to
Okay. I saw you take an authoritarian bent earlier. Tell me, why do you think most business owners would choose to discriminate?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92880 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:15 am to
If their best and brightest all weren't in the US Mexico wouldn't be such a shithole and this dude would still be alive
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:17 am to
Because it has happened in the past. My "authoritarian bent" you speak of is my desire to protect people from discrimination? I don't think that's the same thing.
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:20 am to
Of course it is. You have to realize that rights are negative, not positive.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266220 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:21 am to
Personal liberty is the foundation on which we were borne. You have to accept that a few things will happen that you disagree with. Government involvement in marriage or business is counter to freedom
Posted by AggieDub14
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Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:21 am to
I'd love to continue this conversation another time, but I really have to get to bed. Gotta be up in less than 6 hours. Good chat.
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:23 am to
Enjoyed it, friend. I'll catch you later.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:23 am to
Posted by DumbCollegeKid
Steens,Ms
Member since Apr 2013
1620 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:24 am to
So Roger.... About that virtue signalling..
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
59503 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 1:45 am to
I'm sad to see anyone kill themselves, and it's horrible that certain countries are so bad that people feel compelled to leave, but I still think we need to enforce our immigration laws.
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