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re: Life w/o parole for 2.4 lbs. of weed + 104 years for 30g of cocaine: welcome to Alabama

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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:38 pm to
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Anyone that is negatively impacted by the addict doing addict things.
Guns kill people. Spoons make people fat.


T D robs employers of Thai economy and should compensate!
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:39 pm to
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Drug deal gone bad leads to first homicide of 2017


If he had bought it from the store, what are the odds that would have happened?

During Prohibition there were plenty of stories of alcohol buys gone bad too.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Drug deal gone bad leads to first homicide of 2017



A voluntary transaction doesn't lead to murder. Robberies lead to murder. Did you read your own link? Sure didn't look like a sale to me
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 3:42 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:41 pm to
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If he had bought it from the store, what are the odds that would have happened?



Pretty low, but since you bring up alcohol and violence: Alcohol Sales and Violence in Philadelphia

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Studies in other cities have shown that neighborhoods that have more stores selling alcohol have higher rates of violence, alcohol-related traffic crashes, and other public health and social problems
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:42 pm to
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A voluntary transaction doesn't lead to murder. Robberies lead to murder. Did you read your own link?



Yes or no, that drug deal had no victims? You're aware being robbed is being a victim, yes?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Yes or no, that drug deal had no victims? You're aware being robbed is being a victim, yes?


A voluntary transaction has no victims.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Insane. You can kill someone and get parole


Rawl tide
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:44 pm to
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A voluntary transaction has no victims.




This one ended up having one.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to
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A voluntary transaction has no victims.



Still not true.
Posted by Blue Velvet
Apple butter toast is nice
Member since Nov 2009
20112 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to
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ORLY?
Homicide =/= drug deal

Try to keep up.

Driving can lead to road rage so driving is not a victimless crime?

It is the illegality that results in the inherent danger of the business. Which is why drug dealers are heroes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to



What does that link have to do with the transaction? You're confused by associated crimei
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:45 pm to
Prison is big business in Alabama. Non-violent offenders should never be locked up for life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Homicide =/= drug deal


Yeah, he's confusing other actions with a voluntary trade
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:47 pm to
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What does that link have to do with the transaction? You're confused by associated crimei




I'm not confused by anything. You're just dancing around an example of a drug deal going bad blowing up your argument.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Pretty low, but since you bring up alcohol and violence: Alcohol Sales and Violence in Philadelphia

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Studies in other cities have shown that neighborhoods that have more stores selling alcohol have higher rates of violence, alcohol-related traffic crashes, and other public health and social problems



All true.

But we tolerate this risk because:

1)People enjoy drinking
2)Prohibition doesn't work
3)We like to think we love freedom

Wouldn't legalization of some/most drugs support 1,2, or 3?

It would also in fact lower crime from the current status quo of homicides during drug deals (as you pointed out).
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:47 pm to
You think legalization would solve that?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:48 pm to
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A voluntary transaction has no victims.


Still not true.


So, wen you purchase vagisil, who's the victim? The clerk? You? The person behind you?
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:48 pm to
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Wouldn't legalization of some/most drugs support 1,2, or 3?


Are you assuming I'm anti-legalization?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:49 pm to
Weak.

You're better than this.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89137 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 3:49 pm to
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So, wen you purchase vagisil, who's the victim? The clerk? You? The person behind you?




Nice edit, Mr Intelligent Argument.
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