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re: Left. once successfully killing of the Christian religon, what's your plan?
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:04 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:04 am to AggieHank86
quote:Some who are hostile to Christiantiy have a plan while others don't.
Because your question is based upon an utterly-nonsensical premise.
It is hard to provide a “plan of action” to take after “killing” a religion, when there is no “plan” to kill it to begin with.
Turning public opinion against Christian principles while removing Christianity from the public sphere seems to be the current course of action.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
quote:I know you think this is ironic, but everyone has a worldview that governs how they perceive and interpret reality. The atheist has one just like the Christian, and while it might not be "brainwashing", worldviews really do impact how people are interpreting things contrary to what some people even think is common sense. You are no exception.quote:
It's like they are brainwashed
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:07 am to Dale51
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Who are "those people"?
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"Hmmm...that's kind of an aggressive way to try and show you don't care at all about something."?
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Can you answer my question?
I did.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:11 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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I did.
My question was what actions would you have to identify in order for those actions to be thought of as militant to you?
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:15 am to Dale51
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My question was what actions would you have to identify in order for those actions to be thought of as militant to you?
Cool, and I answered your question.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:15 am to UPT
quote:What we have today is a heavier preferences towards secular atheism compared to years past, but the information isn't the culprit. There is more evidence today to support the reliability of the Bible than there was 150 years ago.
“The Left” isn’t killing Christianity, you dimwit. Young people are killing Christianity because it’s a preposterous Bronze Age middle-eastern creation myth that makes zero sense.
People have more information and access to the world, and magic stories about rib-man and dust woman just aren’t believable.
The issue isn't with information but worldviews that are used to interpret the information. Naturalistic materialism is what is being presupposed these days, whereby all that exists in the universe are material things that came about naturally. If you assume this from the outset, of course a supernatural-based worldview will appear "preposterous". That doesn't make it so, of course.
What is preposterous is the adherence to a materialistic naturalistic worldview after performing an internal critique of those presuppositions and comparing that to the world we live in. You think you're smart by rejecting God, but you are actually acting like a fool, as the scriptures say.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Cool, and I answered your question.
You need a new game...your shtick is threadbare.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:18 am to Jjdoc
We all know how the plan ends for them
Gonna suck real bad for them when they face that consequence
Gonna suck real bad for them when they face that consequence
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:20 am to Dale51
If my answer confused you, you should've said so.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:22 am to Dale51
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You need a new game...your shtick is threadbare.
Its really sad at this point. And he downvotes you
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:24 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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If my answer confused you, you should've said so.
I asked for examples of specific actions....does this confuse you? If not...and I'm the one confused... humor me and restate those examples.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:28 am to Dale51
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I asked for examples of specific actions
That's nice.
Still, I answered your question.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:29 am to volod
quote:You just want religion to be like someone's favorite ice cream flavor: a pointless individual preference that might be fine for the person holding to it, but irrelevant to everyone else.
There is a big difference between not wanting someone to dominate your life (read blue laws) and destroying them.
Well religion isn't so unimportant as that, and Christianity is the only belief system or worldview that makes sense of reality as we know it and shouldn't be discarded as flippantly.
And yes, orthodox Christian beliefs certainly are the target for destruction since they are incompatible with the atheistic utopia that many want to enact.
quote:1. Many people just don't want atheistic naturalism to dictate the cultural reality we live in and believe the reality of God should be allowed in the public sphere, even if it isn't accepted by each individual.
Many people just dont want religion to control their body or their lives. If others chose to do so, okay.
2. It seems as though you're referencing abortion with your comment about controlling ones body. You should know by now that the issue isn't about controlling anyone's body but preventing another body from being destroyed.
3. You say it's OK if others chose to have religion "control their body or their lives", but what basis do you have to say what anyone does for themselves or others is "okay"? This gets down to presuppositions and worldviews again.
quote:Orthodox, Biblical Christianity does seem to be pretty monolithic with one political party.
The other issue is that this board treats Christianity as monolithic with one political party.
quote:The difference is how seriously people take their faith and/or what they view as acceptable to God within their faith.
We have plenty of Christians in the Democratic party. The difference is what people prioritize. Many Leftwing Baptist prioritize fair and hospitable of your fellow citizen over the issues of abortion for example.
Many professing Christians don't actually know what the Bible teaches. They hear some feel-good stories about helping others and think that all that matters in life is "social justice", as if ethics are exclusive to Christianity (though only Christianity has a rational basis for ethics). God's glory is not priority #1 for these people (and neither is God's truth) and therefore they apply the Christian moral ethic to the state and look to the state to be our savior instead of God through Christ.
quote:If Christian doctrine is true, civilization existed before Christianity but the truth of Christianity existed before civilization.
But if Christianity died, it would just be replaced by a different belief system. Human civilization existed long before Christianity. Actually, many historians agree that Christianity was one if many factors that collapsed Rome.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:31 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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That's nice.
Still, I answered your question.
Yer silly.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:31 am to BayouBlitz
quote:God's timing is not our timing. He could have sent Jesus right after Adam sinned but He decided to glorify Himself through slow, continual revelation until Christ was sent to earth.quote:What took him so long, then?
True, but didn't exist before the founder, Jesus Christ
This thread has me cracking up.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:32 am to xiv
quote:You people are not willing to accept that there is a negative attack on Christianity because you agree with it. You want Christians to sit down and keep their silly religion to themselves so you don't have to be confronted with your sin.
You basically asked them if they still beat their wives. There’s no reason to take you seriously. You’re being mocked, and rightfully so.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:34 am to TopFlightSecurity
quote:You think people are informed today? Not at all. There is just as much misinformation today as ever before. More so, in fact.
Organized religion of all types is dying a slow death as the average person gains more access to information.
Regardless, facts aren't brute and information doesn't mean anything without interpretation. The issue here are the worldviews interpreting the information, not the information, itself.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:36 am to bmy
quote:Logic and science have no basis outside of the Christian worldview.
Replace it with logic, science, and a sense of mortality
For athists especially, they just accept logic and science as mere characteristics of the universe without questioning why they are. From a presuppositional level, there's no reason why logic/reason and scientific discovery should even make sense within the atheistic framework where all that exists is material in motion within nature.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:38 am to Terrific Tales
quote:What revelation did you receive that told you these things? Or are you just offering your personal opinion based on a rejection of any formalized truth?
I tend to think of organized religion as largely unnecessary and to a certain extent a scam. I feel like as long as people have a personal relationship with God and believe in Him wholly, it will turn out fine.
As far as the OP, what exactly are you referring to?
I think anyone can see the death of organized religion is on the horizon but it feels like you are suggesting something more than that, an almost clawing away at the very essence of religion itself. To that point I don’t think there is anything the Left or anyone could do that can take the concepts of Christianity away from the people that believe them.
Posted on 5/27/19 at 11:52 am to FooManChoo
Leftists due to their standing in the media and education are allowed to control language.
We have homophobia. Transphobia. Islamophobia. Anti semetism. Xenophobia.
What is the word of irrational hatred of Christians? Still waiting for that one from progressives.
This situation tells me all I need to know.
We have homophobia. Transphobia. Islamophobia. Anti semetism. Xenophobia.
What is the word of irrational hatred of Christians? Still waiting for that one from progressives.
This situation tells me all I need to know.
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