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Laura Ingraham brought up an interesting point re: Inflation Reduction Act
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:18 pm
Remember when McConnell, Cassidy and other fricking retarded Senate RINOs helped Joe pass the Infrastructure Bill?
Well, because they gave them the 60 votes for cloture to get it passed, it opened the door for the IRA to pass via Reconciliation (otherwise, the Dems were going to have to use reconciliation to pass the infrastructure bill).
So, when people point to no GOP votes in the House or Senate for the IRA, that's pure horseshite. They greased the skids for this (including the 87000 new IRS agents) earlier this year.
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Well, because they gave them the 60 votes for cloture to get it passed, it opened the door for the IRA to pass via Reconciliation (otherwise, the Dems were going to have to use reconciliation to pass the infrastructure bill).
So, when people point to no GOP votes in the House or Senate for the IRA, that's pure horseshite. They greased the skids for this (including the 87000 new IRS agents) earlier this year.
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:19 pm to udtiger
I just don't understand how any of this works. Why couldn't the Republicans filibustered the IRA to require 60 votes?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:21 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I just don't understand how any of this works. Why couldn't the Republicans filibustered the IRA to require 60 votes?
Certain "limited" fiscal legislation can be passed by simple majority without being subject to filibuster. But it's limited in the number of times a Congress can use it.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:21 pm to udtiger
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Well, because they gave them the 60 votes for cloture to get it passed, it opened the door for the IRA to pass via Reconciliation (otherwise, the Dems were going to have to use reconciliation to pass the infrastructure bill).
I don’t understand how that all works, but aren’t they only allowed to use reconciliation on a limited basis?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:25 pm to udtiger
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Certain "limited" fiscal legislation can be passed by simple majority without being subject to filibuster. But it's limited in the number of times a Congress can use it.
So let me get this straight: The Senate filibustered the infrastructure bill. Cassidy, et al, broke the filibuster which means the IRA could simply pass with a majority vote.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:25 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
1 time a year you can bypass the 60 vote threshold by using reconciliation. Congress lady from Florida district 3 was on Wilcow explaining this.
Because this bill was passed into law in this manner. If the Republicans take over the House and Senate. They can defund the whole dang thing.
Because this bill was passed into law in this manner. If the Republicans take over the House and Senate. They can defund the whole dang thing.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:26 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger
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Certain "limited" fiscal legislation can be passed by simple majority without being subject to filibuster. But it's limited in the number of times a Congress can use it.
So let me get this straight: The Senate filibustered the infrastructure bill. Cassidy, et al, broke the filibuster which means the IRA could simply pass with a majority vote
DING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:27 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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Because this bill was passed into law in this manner. If the Republicans take over the House and Senate. They can defund the whole dang thing.
Only if Joe signs it.
Hint...he won't.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:29 pm to udtiger
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DING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:33 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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If the Republicans take over the House and Senate. They can defund the whole dang thing.
It would take very large balls to do this. The Republicans lack balls.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:33 pm to udtiger
Don’t find them and they go away
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:35 pm to udtiger
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Remember when McConnell, Cassidy and other fricking retarded Senate RINOs helped Joe pass the Infrastructure Bill?
Yep! frick Turtle! He is worse than a Dem.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:38 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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If the Republicans take over the House and Senate. They can defund the whole dang thing.
Yes, but don't think Cassidy and Turtle didn't make a fortune stabbing us all in the back.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:38 pm to loogaroo
What's infuriating is that there were many here (myself included) screaming about this and that the GOP should force them to use reconciliation for infrastructure.
But THEY knew better and were SO proud it was SO much smaller than the Dems wanted.
Dumbasses
But THEY knew better and were SO proud it was SO much smaller than the Dems wanted.
Dumbasses
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:40 pm to udtiger
Hmm, cloture is in the panel so to speak, they only need majority there. Thanks n the senate vote if using reconciliation they would need 51.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:41 pm to loogaroo
And since reconciliation was used , after November this can go bye bye
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:42 pm to Nosevens
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And since reconciliation was used , after November this can go bye bye
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:42 pm to udtiger
Man I wish I had a good memory on why the frick I voted for Cassidy when he initially ran.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 9:42 pm to udtiger
I swear they plan all this shite out. It always works out this way. Always!! How many times could Turtle have shut the government down and forced the Dems to the table in the past? 
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:03 pm to loogaroo
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I swear they plan all this shite out
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