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re: "I will take less of your money than I was planning on taking from you."

Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15036 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 6:39 pm to
That richness is in great part due to the government functioning well creating an orderly playing field for the capitalist class.
Posted by Jeff Boomhauer
Arlen, TX
Member since Jun 2016
3552 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:02 pm to

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The mentality of all those involved in the federal government is astounding.

That is OUR money, frickers. You don't get a cookie for not taking as much.


I get what you're saying and agree in principle but without the government all you have is a piece of paper with numbers written on it that isn't backed by anything. Without the US government what could you buy with your piece of paper? I could take a piece of construction paper and write 20 in the corners and it would be worth the exact same thing
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260056 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:26 pm to
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That richness is in great part due to the government functioning well creating an orderly playing field for the capitalist class. 


Myth.

Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:26 pm to
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without the government all you have is a piece of paper with numbers written on it that isn't backed by anything. Without the US government what could you buy with your piece of paper? I could take a piece of construction paper and write 20 in the corners and it would be worth the exact same thing


You just went "You didn't build that" wow

What is it backed by now?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:36 pm to
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Are there really people that don’t understand this? Lol
Roads & Bridges don’t build themselves



Yeah, the roads and bridges…

What was stimulus supposed to be for?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:38 pm to
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You are right, it is your (our) money.


Your entire post is wrong except for this statement.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:39 pm to
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’d like to see how popular Social Security and Income taxes are when ever single person has to cut a check in April


This would be glorious.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:51 pm to
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That richness is in great part due to the government functioning well creating an orderly playing field for the capitalist class


Yeah, that's it :lmao:
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15036 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 7:54 pm to
Just try getting your countries corporations to innovate if you don't have a governmental body protecting patents and copyrights.

Try hiring and firing without civil law.

The Russian reformers now admit that instead of starting with economic reforms they should have started with legal reforms and only then privatized, or at least not at a more rapid rate than legal reforms.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:15 pm to
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economic reforms they should have started with legal reforms


One in the same.

The Rule of Law and equal protection under the law are the foundation of our success. This is achieved with limitations on government, not government management.

You are basically arguing that the US has simply had better managers in government, and has been successful as a result.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15036 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:32 pm to
I am saying government has a role to play. When I said that up top you said "myth".
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:52 pm to
The few republican senators who notice the additional stupendous debt the tax plan generates will be excoriated by trump.
Cut the debt.
Vote no on this tax bill.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:26 pm to
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government has a role to play.


"Necessary evil"

The US government is supposed to be a referee. Statists want the government to be a player or team.
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