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Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:43 pm to
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 10:43 pm to
Forgot to check back.. and yea, I got deep into some Tool/APC when I was younger.

I've also been following Graham Handcock since his first appearance on Rogan's podcast back in 2012, I can't believe there are some on this board that are just discovering him. I will get to reading the rest of thread now, thanks TPI


Oo and the Pink Floyd stuff however, it's foreign to me, look forward to reading more.
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Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 11:21 pm to
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He said James Alefantis is a rothschild
there was some evidence of this being legit, I'll try to find a link. I checked out the woman's (Rothschild) FB page tied to Alefantis and her kids had the same red hair they seem to have an interest in, e.g. Madeleine McCann.

eta: i think james alefantis may be a rothschild
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and that david would die of a heart attack.
from the same heart attack gun that they got Andrew Breitbart with
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Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:52 am to
Thine, I haven't ever looked into PF's lyrics.. This meaning behind their lyrics and album artwork, is it known by many? or did you reach this understanding on your own?

if so, was it the album covers and HLI that started connecting the dots, with Carlson and the lyrics adding further evidence?!

Because you really should entertain the idea of writing a book, even if you're just an aggregator.
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:10 am to
O shite, whoa.. just realized the deeper meaning you're alluding to in Ænema.

It's been a while but I thought it was about nothing more than the mindless blindly following the superficial in celebrities, Scientology, etc.

Right in my face and I didn't see it.. fitting I guess, that's exactly how the mystery schools do it
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:41 am to
Do you have a link to the rest of that Carlson lecture?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:30 am to
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deep into some Tool/APC


wiki

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Maynard James Keenan (born James Herbert Keenan; April 17, 1964),[5] often referred to by his initials MJK, is an American musician, record producer, winemaker, and actor, best known as the vocalist for Grammy Award-winning progressive metal band Tool. He is originally from Ohio, but spent his high school and college years in Michigan. After serving in the United States Army in the early 1980s, he attended Kendall College of Art and Design in Grand Rapids. He moved to Los Angeles, California in 1988 to pursue a career in interior design and set construction. Shortly thereafter, he formed the band Tool with Adam Jones.

Keenan is also the lead singer of A Perfect Circle. In 2003, he created Puscifer as a side project and has subsequently released three studio albums. Since rising to fame, Keenan has been noted as being a recluse; however, he does emerge to support charitable causes.





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Inspired by Bill Murray's performance in the 1981 comedy film Stripes, Keenan joined the United States Army, with the intention of having the G.I. Bill fund his dream of attending art school (Kendall College of Art and Design in Grand Rapids, MI).[5] By this point, he had lived in Ohio, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Oklahoma, Kansas, and Texas.[10] He initially served in the Army as a forward observer before studying at the United States Military Academy Preparatory School (West Point Prep School) from 1983 to 1984. In addition to completing a rigorous math and English curriculum, he wrestled, ran on the cross country team and sang in the glee club.[10] It was during his time in the military that he adopted the sobriquet "Maynard" on a whim.[11] He was distinguished in basic and advanced training,[12] but declined an appointment to West Point and instead chose to pursue a music career because of his disillusionment with his colleagues' values[13] and because he knew West Point would not tolerate his dissidence.[12]





"Maynard" now grows wine in the desert. You think he knows something about the land...

Gilmour (Pink Floyd) also lives a pretty reclusive life on a houseboat....

"Schism"

I know the pieces fit 'cause I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering. Fundamental differing.
Pure intention juxtaposed will set two lovers souls in motion
Disintegrating as it goes testing our communication
The light that fueled our fire then has burned a hole between us so
We cannot seem to reach an end crippling our communication.

I know the pieces fit 'cause I watched them tumble down
No fault, none to blame, it doesn't mean I don't desire to
Point the finger, blame the other, watch the temple topple over.
To bring the pieces back together, rediscover communication

The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance.

There was a time that the pieces fit, but I watched them fall away.
Mildewed and smoldering, strangled by our coveting
I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing.
Doomed to crumble unless we grow, and strengthen our communication.


Cold silence
has a tendency
to atrophy any
sense of compassion
between supposed lovers,
between supposed brothers,

I know the pieces fit [8x]
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:41 am to
Red Rain


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Wolfram in Parzival intimates in which direction we must seek to begin to unravel the riddle that is the Grail and its connection to the ‘royal blood’:





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he 8th chapter of Revelation describes the onset of the Apocalypse by the appearance of Seven Angels, announcing their arrival with trumpet blasts.

“And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.

The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth . . .”

So here, paralleling Wolframs account, we also have angels and the casting, by them, of something onto the Earth, in this case fire, hail and blood commingled.


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The biblical account has echoes in India’s great epic poem, the Mahabharata:

“The air was filled with the shouting of men, the roaring of elephants, the blasts of trumpets, and the beating of drums: the rattling of chariots was like to thunder rolling in heaven. The Gods and Gandharvas assembled in the clouds and saw the hosts which had gathered for mutual slaughter. As both armies waited for sunrise, a tempest arose and the dawn was darkened by dust clouds, so that men could scarce behold one another. Evil were the omens. Blood dropped like rain out of heaven, while jackals howled impatiently, and, kites and vultures screamed hungrily for human flesh.”


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The earliest known references in literature linking blood and the heavens are found in Homer’s Iliad. Zeus foresees that his mortal but beloved son Sarpedon is going to die in the Trojan War and as a tribute “Zeus poured bloody drops earthwards, honouring his own beloved son, whom Patroklos was soon to destroy in fertile Troy far from his homeland.” Chap. 16, v. 459


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This theme of reciprocal terrestrial and celestial discord is reiterated in Chinese mythology wherein we find a tale regarding three tribes perpetrating a great disorder. As a result of their perpetual strife “Heaven decreed their destruction. The sun came out at night and for three days it rained blood. A dragon appeared in the ancestral temple and dogs howled in the marketplace.” (Watson B. 1967. Basic writings of Mo Tzu, etc., Columbia Univ. Press)


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Turning from the mythical to the historical record we find numerous accounts of blood from the sky. For example:

In the Census of Ireland for the year 1851, under the section entitled Table of cosmical phenomenon etc. in Ireland, under an entry for the year AD 1017 it is stated that ‘there appeared a most frightful comet for four months. The same year it rained blood . . .”

One of seven manuscripts of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle “An. DC.LXXXV “In this year there was a bloody rain in Britain. And milk and butter were turned to blood.” p. 444

In the 12th century Irish Book of Leinster, is found an interesting reference for the year 868 A.D: “Showers of blood were poured, and the clots of gore were found.”

Another medieval Irish chronicle, the Chronicum Scotorum, contains a reference to the year 878 A.D: “it rained a shower of blood, which was found in lumps of gore and blood on all the plains . . .”




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In a 14th century work entitled Polychronicon, a universal history from the creation to 1352, the author Ralph Higden, a monk, writes: “In the same time here came a strange token, such as before never came, nor never hitherto since. From heaven here came a marvelous flood; three days it rained blood, three days and three nights. That was exceeding great harm!”


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Last month’s article contained a sample of accounts of ‘blood’ raining from the sky. We have seen how in at least several cases this blood was perceived to be directly associated with comets and meteors. I ended that article with this question: What are we to make of these accounts? Surely it does not rain actual blood from the sky. Or does it?


Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:55 am to
Red Rain continued...

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One of the first attempts to analyze the chemistry or red rain occurred in the late 19th century when it fell over Calabria, Italy. Laboratory analysis led investigators to conclude that it was, in fact, blood. This led one professor to propose that it must have been the result of a flock of birds becoming caught up somehow in a violent wind. However, there was no wind to speak of at the time and no feathers or other bird parts were ever found.

Enter modern science. In recent times two events have provided startling evidence that the ancient accounts may not be untenable at all.

On November 14/15 of 2012 a red rain was seen to fall over several provinces of Sri Lanka. Initial analysis of this rain seemed to indicate that the red color was caused by unicellular micro-organisms, presumed to be terrestrial in nature. Subsequent analysis, however, disclosed the presence of high concentrations of uranium in the outer layers of these cells. In an interview with cosmologist Chandra Wickramsinghe he states: “The concentration of uranium is not typical of earthly life forms and is another pointer to the alien origin of the red rain cells.” In addition the cells lacked phosphorous in the nuclear region which led the scientists studying them to call them extremely unusual organisms. But could there be an extraterrestrial connection? Well, the answer is yes. About 10 days before the actual rainfall there were numerous meteor and fireball sightings in the area. It was concluded by Wickramasinghe that it was entirely possible that the microbial cells could have stayed aloft until changes in atmospheric pressure and moisture were conducive their raining out




pics from Sri Lanka:



MIT article on it....

Nat Geo vid on it....


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In an April, 2013 article in the Journal of Cosmology entitled “Discovery of Uranium in Outer Coat of Sri Lankan Red Rain Cells, the authors state: “The microbial content of the red rain that fell over central Sri Lanka in November/December 2012 shows generic similarities to that of the Kerala red rain.” The Kerala red rain the authors refer to was a similar event that took place in Kerala, India in May of 2001. The rainfall was preceded almost immediately by massive sonic booms, the kind that would be generated by a bolide or large meteor exploding in the atmosphere.

“The concentration of uranium is not typical of earthly life forms and is another pointer to the alien origin of the red rain cells.”

The red cells that were conveyed to Earth in the red rain of Kerala were truly extraordinary. Among their unexpected properties were not only survivability but the ability to reproduce at temperatures up to and exceeding 600 degrees Fahrenheit! Modern cooking ovens usually have a maximum temperature of 500° F. In addition the cells have a double wall structure which serves to protect the nucleus from damage, including from ultraviolet radiation. In other words these cells are ideally suited to survive a journey through space and a fiery passage through Earth’s atmosphere. But from whence come these strange, red bloodlike cells? Patrick McCafferty , a chemical engineer and archeologist, has made an in-depth study of the red rain phenomenon throughout history. He authored an article on red rain for the International Journal of Astrobiology in 2008 in which he writes: “It was concluded that the red particles probably had an extraterrestrial origin, the result of a meteor airburst event on 25 July 2001, just hours before the red rain first started to fall. This conclusion raises the possibility that, in space, there are objects that contain red, blood-like cells. In other words, comets possibly harbour life. Such an image of a comet, containing a liquid interior teeming with red cells, is difficult to imagine and even harder to accept.”


Pink Floyd:

Both instrumental. The Marooned video is very powerful/symbolic. Highly recommend watching...

Marooned - video


Red Sky at Night - vid

Red pilled via the red rain...
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 9:26 am
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:05 pm to
Your theories about science and history are intriguing, but I don't see a valid connection to Pink Floyd. What background or qualifications do any of the PF members have to make such subtle metaphorical references? And no one connected to the band has ever made a claim that there is a link. I can't connect these dots.
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:22 pm to
Their album covers suggest otherwise
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:29 pm to
There is no link between PF and the HLI stuff except inference. In my opinion there needs to be more of a correlation. I think thine's work would have more merit if he left out the PF stuff. Or maybe he will explain below.

The band has almost categorically denied any link. The individual thine should focus on is Storm Thorgersen.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

What background or qualifications do any of the PF members have to make such subtle metaphorical references? And no one connected to the band has ever made a claim that there is a link. I can't connect these dots.



I will elaborate more when I finish with Randall's info first




On this album:

Signs of Life

When the child like view of the world went, nothing replaced it...nothing replaced it...nothing replaced it...
I do not like being asked to.....I do not like being asked to... I do not like being asked to....

Other people replaced it
Someone who knows


(Instrumental)


---

"A New Machine - Part I"

I have always been here
I have always looked out from behind the eyes
It feels like more than a lifetime
Feels like more than a lifetime
Sometimes I get tired of the waiting
Sometimes I get tired of being in here
Is this the way it has always been?
Could it ever have been different?
Do you ever get tired of the waiting?
Do you ever get tired of being in there?
Don't worry, nobody lives forever,
Nobody lives forever

---

"A New Machine - Part II"

I will always be in here
I will always look out from behind these eyes

It's only a lifetime
It's only a lifetime
It's only a lifetime
Posted by zatetic
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:41 pm to
Almost every artist to make tons of money sold their soul to the devil.

There is plenty of video and lyric evidence of different artists admitting this. That occult link could also be a source of profound lyrics.
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

The individual thine should focus on is Storm Thorgersen.

I see what you're saying
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

The individual thine should focus on is Storm Thorgersen.


Yep, but there are some mysteries with regards to the lyrics that I feel are on the band

Storm's company is HIPGNOSIS which could be a clever anagram for PHI GNOSIS or "The knowledge of the Golden Ratio"
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by BurlesonCountyAg
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:06 pm to
Have you looked into Iain Mcgilchrist and how his views relate to Julian Jaynes'?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Have you looked into Iain Mcgilchrist and how his views relate to Julian Jaynes'?


Have not.

The other connecting piece to PF and Randall Carlson is

John Michell

excerpt from a book: Dreaming Worlds Awake

quote:

John Frederick Carden Michell (9 February 1933 – 24 April 2009) was an English author and esotericist who was a prominent figure in the development of the Earth mysteries movement. Over the course of his life he published over forty books on an array of different subjects, being a proponent of the Traditionalist school of esoteric thought.

Born in London to a wealthy family, Michell was educated at Cheam School and Eton College before serving as a Russian translator in the Royal Navy for two years. After failing a degree in Russian and German at Trinity College, Cambridge, he returned to London and worked for his father's property business, there developing his interest in Ufology. Embracing the counter-cultural ideas of the Earth mysteries movement during the 1960s, in The Flying Saucer Vision he built on Alfred Watkins' ideas of ley lines by arguing that they represented linear marks created in prehistory to guide extraterrestrial spacecraft. He followed this with his most influential work, The View Over Atlantis, in 1969. His ideas were at odds with those of academic archaeologists, for whom he expressed contempt. Michell believed in the existence of an ancient spiritual tradition that connected humanity to divinity, but which had been lost as a result of modernity. He believed however that this tradition would be revived and that humanity would enter a Golden Age, with Britain as the centre of this transformation.

Michell's other publications covered an eclectic range of topics, and included an overview on the Shakespeare authorship question, a tract condemning Salman Rushdie during the The Satanic Verses controversy, and a book of Adolf Hitler's quotations. Keenly interested in the crop circle phenomenon, he co-founded a magazine devoted to the subject, The Cereologist, in 1990, and served as its initial editor. From 1992 until his death he wrote a column for The Oldie magazine, which was largely devoted to his anti-modernist opinions. He accompanied this with a column on esoteric topics for the Daily Mirror tabloid. A lifelong marijuana smoker, Michell died of lung cancer in 2009.
Posted by Boudin
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:13 pm to
I wish it didn't take an anchor, but this is so much better than having shite posts every time the thread is bumped.

Carlson and Handcock need to have their own podcast..

I have some RC YouTube videos to post when I get a chance.. Didn't know he was into the mystery schools/forgotten history, I thought he was just about geological studies
This post was edited on 3/29/17 at 7:14 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:21 pm to
He is a Mason....

I linked some of his vids in a post on page 10

I am watching some different ones currently. Will update the thread with them. Still have a good bit more of his info to summarize here.
Posted by HailFreezusOver
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Posted on 3/29/17 at 8:49 pm to
wish i had a full breakdown of that gilmour rattle that chain video.
I understood part of the metaphors and locations and events but to have it all interpreted scene by scene.
if someone has a site or other wise thanks

ineresting breakdown thine


eta*
one breakdown i found

if one takes the fallen angel as asteroid/comet as well
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