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re: Governor Inslee Demands ICE Stay Away From Polling Places

Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:47 pm to
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It tells me that you don’t understand procedure very well and dismiss “only” 102 affidavits.


What's wrong with my description?

I didn't dismiss only 102 affidavits/declarations because the number of affidavits was low. I said the Trump campaign lied about how many there were. And when they were faced with opposing evidence, they folded, and then lied about why they were folding. Oh, I also dismissed the 102 affidavits because most of them were stupid.

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Were votes counted illegally in Georgia? Yes or no?


I think you mean "not counted". But yes, I believe there were approximately 1200 votes for Trump were not counted, and that the law in Georgia likely states that all votes must be counted.

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Wrong. It cannot. Name one other election where the bellwether overwhelming winner lost the election. I’ll wait.


Can you actually explain what you mean by the "the bellwether overwhelming winner"? You mean the guy who seemed to be winning overnight but ultimately lost? That's not the same statistical issue as the Paxton suit, but if you explain what you mean, I can address it.

I take it from your selective silence that you don't want to go through the specifics of the Wayne County lawsuit or Paxton expert declaration, that you do not, in fact, have evidence of widespread voting by illegal immigrants (much less for whom they voted), and have no real affirmative evidence that the 2020 election was stolen based on your research. But please feel free to correct me. Remember to be specific.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59466 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 1:51 pm to
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I said the Trump campaign lied about how many there were


Completely irrelevant to the suit.

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And when they were faced with opposing evidence, they folded


Give us some examples of this opposing evidence.

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I think you mean "not counted". But yes, I believe there were approximately 1200 votes for Trump were not counted, and that the law in Georgia likely states that all votes must be counted.


Wrong. You don’t even have the basic facts correct. So frustrating to argue with someone. That doesn’t have a. Grasp of the facts. Do some research. Even google will help on this one.

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Can you actually explain what you mean by the "the bellwether overwhelming winner"?


You need an explanation for that? Are you a teenager?. Jesus. Google can help you there too. I didn’t realize you have no knowledge of anything. Let me help:

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In politics, a bellwether is a district, state, or voting bloc that accurately predicts the overall winner or outcome of an election. These areas, such as specific counties or states (e.g., Ohio, Missouri historically), tend to mirror national voting trends, making their results an early indicator of the final result.


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that you do not, in fact, have evidence of widespread voting by illegal immigrants (much less for whom they voted),


Define “widespread” and why that is important. Then I’ll post you some evidence.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 1:53 pm
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
562 posts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 4:12 pm to
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Completely irrelevant to the suit.


Irrelevant to the proceedings there, to be sure. But nonetheless true, and you and I didn't have to run that litigation, we just have to decide who's telling the truth. And it is absolutely relevant to that.

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Give us some examples of this opposing evidence.


Here you go. Affidavit of Christopher Thomas

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Wrong. You don’t even have the basic facts correct. So frustrating to argue with someone. That doesn’t have a. Grasp of the facts. Do some research. Even google will help on this one.


Can't find anything substantial after Googling. Just cut to the chase and tell me what you're talking about, maybe? ChatGPT concludes with "There is no verified evidence that illegal votes were counted in a way that meaningfully affected the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia. Isolated procedural issues were investigated, but they did not rise to the level of widespread illegal counting or overturning the certified outcome."

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You need an explanation for that? Are you a teenager?. Jesus. Google can help you there too. I didn’t realize you have no knowledge of anything. Let me help:


You're kind of salty, aren't you? I know what a bellwether county is. I just don't know what you mean by "overwhelming bellwether winner", particularly when you tie it directly to the Paxton lawsuit declaration, with which it has literally nothing to do. So I looked it up, and it seems like more bellwether counties than usual went to the overall loser of the 2020 election. That must be what you're referring to? So now, complete the thought. How does that make the Paxton declaration irrefutable?

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Define “widespread” and why that is important. Then I’ll post you some evidence.


Sure. By widespread, I mean something that can be shown with statistical significance. So it is a phenomenon en masse, not an individual or two. Furthermore, if you think elections are actually being stolen by means of organizing illegals to vote, then give something that shows in a specific election it could have tipped the balance. I concede, and have no doubt, that there have been individual cases where illegal immigrants have voted.

It's important because the OP is talking about ICE being deployed to polling stations, and infers from former Gov. Inslee's objection to that policy that Democrats want/need illegal immigrants voting to win more elections. That seems justified to a lot of people here, because (1) they believe ICE is only doing their statutorily authorized job and (2) believe that illegal immigrants vote in sufficient numbers, for Democrats, that it is worth protecting their ability to do that. I don't think (1) or (2) is true, but I'm open to hearing about it.

By the way, although you're a bit salty, I appreciate the fact that you're open to discussing it.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 4:14 pm
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