re: F You LBJ

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Ronald Reagan is responsible at about the same level.

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on the face of it, this seems to be an insanely stupid take. but i'm always up for hearing someone's opinion. i read your post, but i fail to see how any of that implicates Ronald Reagan at the same level of Lyndon fricking Johnson for the state of the nation today.

don't forget RR let the CIA flood the streets of America with cocaine to fund his off the books wars.

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investigate what he did to our education system. This new wave of student incompetence that plagues us today begins in his first term BY HIS ACTIONS

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Wrong. Reagan ran on 'the new federalism'. He wanted to leave states to their own business. States ran the show with schools prior and during Reagan. Since then Democrat initiatives have gradually increased federal control.

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Zach

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You are wrong.

You are not getting it.. snowblind

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Reagan was not the movie trailer version most conservatives believe

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oh you mean he was a human with complexities and nuance? like literally every single president? like literally every single human to ever walk the earth?

this new ultra-pure conservatism hot take on how Ronald Reagan (and pretty much every single republican president in the 20th century) was actually an evil progressive in disguise is so tiresome.

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I am not into contrast and compare here

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your exact words:

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Ronald Reagan is responsible at about the same level.

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this new ultra-pure conservatism hot take on how Ronald Reagan (and pretty much every single republican president in the 20th century) was actually an evil progressive in disguise is so tiresome.

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it is not 'pure' - stop with the dramatic theatrics

I am simpley saying behind the curtain - and his VP - the man was different, the degree to which I do not know nor care about. I am saying he created things in the early 1980s that are a massive part of what is happening since and NOW.

Your resistance to honest conversation is likely a part of his damage; and honest discussion is all I am interested in..

Bush was a total POS

Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt

"Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt was born in Brooklyn, New York on October 26, 1930. She graduated from Dana Hall Preparatory School in Wellesley, Mass., and Katharine Gibbs Business School in New York City. Iserbyt’s father and grandfather were Yale University graduates and members of The Order of Skull and Bones, a secret society at Yale University. [1][2] She married Jan Iserbyt of Belgium in 1964 (deceased 2009) and has two sons, Robert Lieven Iserbyt (1966) and Samuel Thomson Iserbyt (1968).

Engagement and Marriage Announcements – New York Times

Iserbyt is an American freelance writer who served as the Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first term of U.S. President Ronald Reagan. Iserbyt also served as a social worker with the American Red Cross during the Korean War (stationed at SAC airbases on Guam and in Japan), in the U.S. Dept. of State (Middle Eastern and Soviet Union Affairs), and as Admin. Asst. to Ambassadors Philip Crowe, Republic of South Africa (1959) and to Douglas MacArthur II in Belgium (1961-1963). She and her husband, Jan, lived in Grenada, West Indies from 1968-1974 where Jan operated a yacht charter business. Upon returning to the United States in 1974, Iserbyt served as an elected school board member in Camden, Maine 1976-1979 Iserbyt also founded the Maine Conservative Union, an affiliate of the national American Conservative Union, and Guardians of Education for Maine.

Publications

She is the author of Back to Basics Reform or OBE Skinnerian International Curriculum, 1985 (58 pages) and The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, 1999 (700 pages) and the 2011 updated/abridged version. [3]

Back to Basics Reform or OBE Skinnerian International Curriculum, 1985, documents her experiences working as Sr. Policy Advisor, U.S. Dept. of Education, where she was privy to past and future plans to restructure American education from traditional academics to values clarification (change from traditional moral values to humanist values) and global workforce training, using tax-funded private education /charter schools without elected boards, and the Skinnerian mastery learning/outcomes-based methodology in conjunction with computers. Her 700-page The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, 1999, and the updated/abridged version of 2011, contains a chronological record starting in the 1800s, of the “deliberate dumbing down” of not just the USA, but of the world. [4]

Much research in Back to Basics Reform and The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America relates to the expenditure of hundreds of millions of tax dollars a year on non-academic programs geared to changing students attitudes, values, and beliefs from those taught in the home and by the church. Iserbyt, while working for several weeks at the National Institute of Education, U.S. Dept. of Education, uncovered a major tax-exempt foundation project, under the supervision of the late Professor John Goodlad, entitled The Goodlad Study. This project resulted in publication by McGraw Hill Publishers of four books: “Schooling for a Global Age”; “Communities and their Schools”; “Arts and the Schools”, and “Goodlad’s A Place Called School”. [5]

The goal of the Goodlad Study, which was made available to all fifty state commissioners of education, was/is to change United States education in order to merge it into the global education system. Iserbyt later came across a federally-funded grant entitled Better Education Skills through Technology (Project BEST). Having served as a local school board member, she was shocked by one page marked CONFIDENTIAL which stated “What we (U.S. Dept. of Education) can control and manipulate at the local level,” which listed (to be controlled) selection of members of task force, content of curriculum, etc. Iserbyt leaked the entire grant to Human Events, a D.C. weekly journal, but not before she had removed all other controversial anti-family/anti-American curriculum plans/documents from her office to her apartment. Many of these confidential documents are included in her two books listed above. Iserbyt was subsequently removed from her position in the Department of Education and returned to Maine. Iserbyt considers the Carnegie Corporation as the primary tax-exempt foundation involved in changing the USA from a capitalist economy to a planned economy in the system. In her internet interviews, Iserbyt reads from Carnegie’s Conclusions and Recommendations for the Social Studies, 1934, (page 264 in the PDF of her book) which details how education would be used to bring about not only a planned economy for the United States, but also the necessity of, in some cases, the seizing of private property for public use. Iserbyt is also the author of “Soviets in the Classroom… America’s Latest Education Fad”, 1989, which exposes the U.S.A.- U.S.S.R. Education and Cultural Agreements signed by Presidents Reagan and President Gorbachev, as well as the Carnegie-Soviet Academy of Science Agreement (both negotiated in 1985 and still in effect 2017). [6]

In an interview concerning secret societies and the elite agenda she disclosed that in the early 1980s she had a chance to meet with Norman Dodd [7] [8] who had been the chief investigator for the United States House Select Committee to Investigate Tax-Exempt Foundations and Comparable Organizations commonly known as the B. Carroll Reece Committee. [9][10] In her interviews she quotes Dodd regarding the ‘network’ of individuals and foundations, including Carnegie, whose goal was/is to bring about world peace by means of war and rapid changes in society. She discusses Dodd’s “off-the-record” discussions with the late Rowan Gaither, president of the Ford Foundation, during which Gaither states:

“Mr. Dodd, all of us here at the policy making level of the foundation have at one time or another served in the OSS (the Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the CIA) or the European Economic Administration, operating under directives from the White House. We operate under those same directives… The substance of the directives under which we operate is that we shall use our grant making power to so alter life in the United States so that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.”

~ Rowan Gaither, President Ford Foundation – 1953, Norman Dodd – friend of Iserbyt version 2011.

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Try being a big boy and checking for yourself instead of whatever the hell foot stomping fit you are having

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oh settle down. you come in here, make an outrageous claim, dont back it up other than a couple vague one-liners, and then when you get push back you tell people to go educate themselves? that's weak shite by any metric.