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re: Brennan and Clapper -Still have Top Security Clearance

Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:12 am to
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:12 am to
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This is the technical piece but ignores reality. The reality is that these guys are given high side information all the time. Those that give it to them rationalize it by saying they occupied a position and still have a clearance. Also, leaving them in the system makes it very easy for them to get or retain access to people and places.

Let's not pretend 'need to know' is a great barrier. Manning proved that.

There needs to be a hard line - you leave, the clearance is gone. Period.

And this business about it lasting for 5 years is incorrect. The investigation gets renewed but the clearance doesn't automatically last. It can be suspended and cut at any time for any reason a commander or adjudicator feels is proper. (I realize you know this already)

We classify way too much stuff and we classify it way higher than it needs to go - this breeds complacency and leads people to rationalizing a loose approach to safeguarding the information. We also have too many people with clearances. This all contributes to the amount of leaks.




I don't disagree with anything you have written here, I'm simply saying that they are not receiving current classified material above board. I , of course, realize there are no doubt scum who are still providing them intel.

And you are dead on in your assesment of how we classify things . A perfect example of this is the FBI classifying the fact taht McCabe bought a $30K conference table and kept it from Congress. Give me a break, there is ony one reason to classify that and it sure doesn't have anything to do with national security.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 6:41 pm to
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Way too many people keep these clearances after govt work is done. And the number of contracting gigs, aside from instructors embedded within DoD or an agency, is ridiculous.


Totally agree mang.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 6:47 pm to
It should be temp suspended until they get rehired into a position that allows it...

Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4503 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:59 am
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59834 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:52 pm to
Isn't Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice's clearance still active, too? Jarrett is holed up in Hussein's pad so they can communicate face-to-face and not be intercepted by the No Such Agency white hats.
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18184 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:00 pm to
Commey's card key still works at the FBI gym and Toastmasters meeting room.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1609 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 9:18 pm to
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This is the technical piece but ignores reality. The reality is that these guys are given high side information all the time. Those that give it to them rationalize it by saying they occupied a position and still have a clearance. Also, leaving them in the system makes it very easy for them to get or retain access to people and places.


Bingo. The IC’s are still slam full of Clapper and Brennans’ buddies and cohorts. They all still have the same goal of stopping Trump at all costs. To outright deny that these guys still have access to TS intel bc they don’t meet the “need to know” requirement, is laughable.

As we learned last week, Strzok failed an FBI polygraph test in January of 2016- which should have resulted, at a minimum, in a temporary loss of his TS clearance. But somehow, not only did he retain his TS clearance, he continued leading the most important FBI investigation in recent history- all of Hillary’s crimes, and after cleaning up for her, he then managed to land the top job again - for the faux Trump investigation.

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