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re: Breaking: Mosque Shooting - New Zealand
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:22 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:22 pm to crazy4lsu
I promise you I know plenty about history and Islam. History has always been a passion of mine. The mongols were very tolerant of religions except the muslims. Why was that? What happened to 4 of the 5 centers of Christianity? Muslims have been at war with nonbelievers since the beginning of their religion. The future Jesus (Issa) that they're waiting for is the prophet that will stand by the antichrist. They're waiting for the antichrist and they will worship him. It's all in revelation. They worship evil
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:23 pm to crazy4lsu
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:28 pm to WesternChauvinist
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Period. Full stop. End of discussion.
Yet Islam will still be here, and we will still be discussing it.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:37 pm to Pdubntrub
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he mongols were very tolerant of religions except the muslims.
This isn't true. 3 of the 4 principal khanates embraced Islam, the Ilkhanate, the Golden Horde and the Chagatai Khanate. Only the Yuan Dynasty didn't convert. They did destroy the Abbasids, but the Abbasids didn't represent the entirety of the Islamic world at that point.
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Muslims have been at war with nonbelievers since the beginning of their religion.
I have never suggested anything otherwise.
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:46 pm to Boatshoes
quote:You've stepped in it now.
No, Islam is the past, present and future problem.
Iran = not Wahhabi.
Hezbollah = not Wahhabi.
Large sections of Pakistan = not Wahhabi.
It's cool that you learned a new word and all, but your ignorance of both history and geopolitics is profound.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:01 pm to northshorebamaman
I read the dudes manafesto. He is a troll on a global scale, and i pretty much disagreed with him 100% besides remove kebab (peacefully in my view though)
He is right about remove kebab. It is an invasion. They see it this way, and plan to out breed us. They believe our kindness is weakness. What they under estimate is the west's lust for bloodshed when pissed. We dropped atomic bombs on our enemy. We deep down are so committed to destroying our enemy we will radiate generations of them. We know no limit. They can not, and will not expect the neocrusades if it comes to that.
He is right about remove kebab. It is an invasion. They see it this way, and plan to out breed us. They believe our kindness is weakness. What they under estimate is the west's lust for bloodshed when pissed. We dropped atomic bombs on our enemy. We deep down are so committed to destroying our enemy we will radiate generations of them. We know no limit. They can not, and will not expect the neocrusades if it comes to that.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 9:08 pm to OleWar
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when Chechens were fighting Russians
So generally the first Chechen War the Russians fought mostly secular opponents, though Islamists did support the Chechens. The second war had explicit Islamist support, which had varying reactions. Turkey was interested in the war, as they had a large population of Chechens who used Istanbul and other Turkish cities as a home base. Turkey, Russia and Iran have always competed over the Caucuses, and thus you would expect some geopolitical positioning, regardless of religion. Turkey and Russia have been rivals for a long time, a rivalry that the US in particular has found beneficial. This article from 2001 discusses some of the issues with Turkey and Russia with regards to Chechnya. LINK
That said, after the Istanbul Airport attack in 2014, there was a degree of rapprochement between the Turks and Russians about Chechnya, as the Islamists, as they did in Afghanistan, turned on groups who supported them.
Iran, who was Russia's ally, and also head of the OIC, stated that it was an internal Russian affair, which made the Chechens angry. On a tour of Muslim states (all of whom were US allies btw), courting the ever elusive and important, Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev, who had served as acting president of the Chechen Republic, announced that he would not visit Iran, who he accused of "having betrayed the interests of the Muslim world" by not supporting the Chechen cause.
The Bosnian situation is much more complicated, as again it was a proxy conflict about ending Russian aims in the Balkans, there was far more explicit Muslim support, as well as Western support in general. The CIA, in fact, funded, trained, and supplied the Bosnian Army, and there is a strong suspicion that the US organized arms shipments to the Bosnians through Muslim allies, a similar situation to Syria (and Afghanistan in the 80's).
For the most part, Muslim countries, as split as they are, are generally geopolitical pawns, as the major powers use the relative youth of many of those nations for their own ends. Given that the issues in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq are ending, I think you'll find that more of the geopolitical positioning will return to the big power dynamic, as the US still has aims on Central Asia, and has no means to get there.
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