re: Are these numbers accurate? Tally of who voted to shut down the govt

yeah i don't get how the DEMs can try to spin this one in the way they are, or the GOP try to act like they're shocked at the DEMs

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Conservatives seemed to enjoy this sort of thing in the Obama years and Dems condemned it. Now roles are reversed and naturally opinions are reversed.

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i dunno if it's a full reversal

i mean hell the main argument is just for CHIP

conservatives get to "enjoy it more" b/c they rally against big government...publicly at least

if the media was slanted in the opposite direction, the DEMs would be slaughtered for refusing to allow CHIP to continue. that's exactly the type of program that they build their entire platform with

oh there is a lot of hypocrisy, but the coverage is even moe

the GOP gets blamed by the major media regardless, even though this time it's 100% on the DEMs

the DEMs aren't even negotiating anymore

Remains to be seen. Cant pass it without dems so the onus is on both sides to compromise.

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Not voting:
McCain AZ

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I think he should not vote for the next 15 years. If dead people can vote then Senate turncoats should be able to be there posthumously to.

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And DACA isnt everything the dems want.

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they will not negotiate at this at all and is why there is a shutdown

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Obstructionism was praised by this board during Obama

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and the Trumpkins are primarily asking the DEMs to own this

I’ll accept it. People talk about compromise like it’s a good thing, especially when they’re in the minority.

I voted on principle, so I’d prefer it if they fought tooth and nail to vote the way they told me they’d vote.

Now that we’re getting a taste of our own medicine, maybe it’s time to realize Reid was right about going nuclear. Both sides need to dump the supermajority or nothing will ever get done whether you like the bill or not.