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Are all of these people really seeking asylum?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:37 am
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:37 am
Let’s think about this
The families that are being seperated cross the border illegally THEN claim asylum. And this happens because you have someone who initially broke the law then claiming innocence so the case has to be heard in court, which takes longer than the allotted time a child can be held (20 days).
Which begs the question, if you were truly an asylum seeker, if you were fleeing a horrible situation, why wouldn’t you present to a legal port of entry and plead your case?
I think most of these people are just trying to enter illegally then decide to “seek asylum” when they are caught
The families that are being seperated cross the border illegally THEN claim asylum. And this happens because you have someone who initially broke the law then claiming innocence so the case has to be heard in court, which takes longer than the allotted time a child can be held (20 days).
Which begs the question, if you were truly an asylum seeker, if you were fleeing a horrible situation, why wouldn’t you present to a legal port of entry and plead your case?
I think most of these people are just trying to enter illegally then decide to “seek asylum” when they are caught
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:38 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Are all of these people really seeking asylum?
Yes but they're trying to get in anyway possible
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:39 am to WaWaWeeWa
yep. i dont blame them for trying to leave their shitholes but they need to follow the proper route. it sucks for them but too bad
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:40 am to WaWaWeeWa
Shouldn't matter if they are. Not our problem!
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:41 am to WaWaWeeWa
Of course al these people aren't really requesting asylum because they know they don't qualify, ultimately something like 80% of all asylum requests that are heard are rejected by immigration judges.
The asylum request was nothing more than a ruse to get here, get that little slip of paper that says "promise to show up to court on THIS date" and then just disappear into the country and hope you never got arrested and deported. Also , hopefully drop a few anchor babies so you can collect some welfare.
Anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature, this leaves out Democrats, knows this is the case.
The asylum request was nothing more than a ruse to get here, get that little slip of paper that says "promise to show up to court on THIS date" and then just disappear into the country and hope you never got arrested and deported. Also , hopefully drop a few anchor babies so you can collect some welfare.
Anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature, this leaves out Democrats, knows this is the case.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:41 am to Wtodd
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Asylum has three basic requirements. First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution in their home country.[3] Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group. Third, an applicant must establish that the government is either involved in the persecution, or unable to control the conduct of private actors.
This is what the law says. So you are saying most people are coming to the border meeting the criteria? If their situation is that bad wouldn’t it be an easy story to tell at a legal port of entry? Why would you feel like you need to risk your life being smuggled across by coyotes?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:42 am to WaWaWeeWa
I think much of this assault on the border was organized and initiated by progressive groups in this country urging those who might want to migrate to do so now in unison.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:44 am to WaWaWeeWa
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So you are saying most people are coming to the border meeting the criteria?
No....I'm saying they will do and say anything to get in. Hell they are KNOWINGLY being separated from this own kids to get in.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:44 am to Jay Quest
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I think much of this assault on the border was organized and initiated by progressive groups in this country urging those who might want to migrate to do so now in unison.
Possibly. Or they are being encouraged by legal counsel to seek asylum (when counsel knows damn well they will never get it) just to tie all this up in court and exacerbate the problem.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:46 am to Wtodd
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No....I'm saying they will do and say anything to get in. Hell they are KNOWINGLY being separated from this own kids to get in.
Exactly. So they are making a false claim for asylum after trying to illegally cross the border.
And because of that false claim are being seperated from their children do to a law passed in 1997 by the liberal 9th circuit court.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:48 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Possibly. Or they are being encouraged by legal counsel to seek asylum (when counsel knows damn well they will never get it) just to tie all this up in court and exacerbate the problem.
THIS
illegals flood our immigration courts, and then liberals cry "well those who try to get in here legally can't , because the system is broken" the system is broken because it's flooded with illegals.
We have a six month backlog to hear asylum cases. That backlog is caused entirely by illegal aliens. We need a law preventing illegals from having access to the judicial system, they simply get a deportation. They can't request asylum.
Do that, and build a god damned wall and this is fixed.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:49 am to WaWaWeeWa
If it lets them stay, sure.
Of course, the posts today from my leftists friends are "but the ACLU says families who show up at the checkpoint and declare asylum are STILL being split up!"
Of course, the posts today from my leftists friends are "but the ACLU says families who show up at the checkpoint and declare asylum are STILL being split up!"
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:49 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Exactly. So they are making a false claim for asylum after trying to illegally cross the border.
Yep
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And because of that false claim are being seperated from their children do to a law passed in 1997 by the liberal 9th circuit court.
Also correct
Posted on 6/21/18 at 8:56 am to Wtodd
I’m making a distinction between someone fleeing a horrible situation meeting the already outlined criteria for asylum
Vs
Someone just wanting to come to the country and then after they get caught attempt to abuse the policy of asylum
I guess the point is what is their intention when they left? I guess we will never know but it’s an interesting question. My thought is if you truly are in an asylum type situation you don’t have anything to hide. Just present to the port of entry and tell your story
Vs
Someone just wanting to come to the country and then after they get caught attempt to abuse the policy of asylum
I guess the point is what is their intention when they left? I guess we will never know but it’s an interesting question. My thought is if you truly are in an asylum type situation you don’t have anything to hide. Just present to the port of entry and tell your story
Posted on 6/21/18 at 9:07 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I’m making a distinction between someone fleeing a horrible situation meeting the already outlined criteria for asylum
80+% of the asylum seekers are lying about their situation
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