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110 Confederate monuments removed since 2015
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:02 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:02 am
From Nola.com LINK
The article is based on a report from Moris Dees' and Joseph Levin's SPLC and authored by Heidi Beirich who is pictured below. Link to report
The report, titled "WHOSE HERITAGE?", identifies more than 1,700 remaining memorials for removal. Link to Map
They have also published a comprehensive set of spreadsheets on google docs that includes data on removed and remaining memorials. Notice one of the names included is US President Zachary Taylor who died before the Civil War began. Link to Google Docs doc
I'm a native Midwesterner with no real family roots or history in the South, my family fought for the Union, but even I find this shite disgusting. "Whose heritage?", even the title is insulting.
These people want to erase our collective history and the inclusion of Zachary Taylor shows that the Confederate monuments are just the beginning.
The whole thing presuposes two points:
1. The War and the Confederacy were about Slavery. We can argue all day about this but it is irrelevant on the personal level, like any war the average Soldier cared very little for the macro political machinations and motivations of the elite. The average Southerner was not fighting rabidly to defend Slavery, he was fighting to defend his neighbors, his home, and his family.
2. These monuments are memorials to that cause of Slavery and to racist Villains which is also false. Look at some of these monuments they list...
Monument to the Women of South Carolina on the Capitol grounds in Columbia:
Monument to Confederate War Dead on the Capitol Grounds in Raleigh NC:
Are you kidding me? With how traumatic the war was, how many people died, we're saying that that loss cannot be remembered? Those people can't be mourned? Their sacrifice can't be recognized?
Screw the SPLC and anyone that supports these people.
The article is based on a report from Moris Dees' and Joseph Levin's SPLC and authored by Heidi Beirich who is pictured below. Link to report
The report, titled "WHOSE HERITAGE?", identifies more than 1,700 remaining memorials for removal. Link to Map
They have also published a comprehensive set of spreadsheets on google docs that includes data on removed and remaining memorials. Notice one of the names included is US President Zachary Taylor who died before the Civil War began. Link to Google Docs doc
I'm a native Midwesterner with no real family roots or history in the South, my family fought for the Union, but even I find this shite disgusting. "Whose heritage?", even the title is insulting.
These people want to erase our collective history and the inclusion of Zachary Taylor shows that the Confederate monuments are just the beginning.
The whole thing presuposes two points:
1. The War and the Confederacy were about Slavery. We can argue all day about this but it is irrelevant on the personal level, like any war the average Soldier cared very little for the macro political machinations and motivations of the elite. The average Southerner was not fighting rabidly to defend Slavery, he was fighting to defend his neighbors, his home, and his family.
2. These monuments are memorials to that cause of Slavery and to racist Villains which is also false. Look at some of these monuments they list...
Monument to the Women of South Carolina on the Capitol grounds in Columbia:
Monument to Confederate War Dead on the Capitol Grounds in Raleigh NC:
Are you kidding me? With how traumatic the war was, how many people died, we're saying that that loss cannot be remembered? Those people can't be mourned? Their sacrifice can't be recognized?
Screw the SPLC and anyone that supports these people.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:06 am to KSGamecock
I’m pretty sure the SPLC was founded by the KGB.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:07 am to Eli Goldfinger
Morris Dees is a race pimp and child molester
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:13 am to Strannix
...and unsurprisingly, Ms. Beirich is from Southern California. Whose heritage indeed. Clearly not hers.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 5:14 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:15 am to KSGamecock
So the South wants to keep its participation trophies?
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 9:44 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 5:18 am to CollegeFBRules
quote:
So the south wants to keep its participation trophies?
Odd coming from a cuck like you
Posted on 6/5/18 at 6:40 am to KSGamecock
Statue Destroying Olympics:
1) Gold Medal - SPLC
2) Silver Medal - Taliban
3) Bronze Medal - ISIS
1) Gold Medal - SPLC
2) Silver Medal - Taliban
3) Bronze Medal - ISIS
Posted on 6/5/18 at 6:41 am to SCLibertarian
That is both hilarious and depressing.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:07 am to KSGamecock
Another good example to post would be the monument on the Ole Miss campus. It is of a confederate soldier that isn’t a particular person. It was erected because the entire OM student body enlisted in the confederate army at the outbreak of the war and suffered 100% casualties. That monument gets a lot of heat, and I look at it as a very intimate memorial for kids that paid the ultimate sacrifice.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:12 am to KSGamecock
Drop the CURRENT crime stats (post removal of these offensive edifices) on top of the same map and I’ll bet the high crime areas overlay nicely. Much ado about nothing, maybe the Democratic leadership and spokespeople for certain groups decrying these pieces of history should focus on the group they are trying to protect from non-harmful pieces of concrete and marble to protecting them from very harmful pieces of lead they are slinging at one another.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:15 am to OBReb6
There's a similar one on SC's state grounds, just a statue of the average Soldier, no one in particular but representative of all of them. I didn't check for that one in particular but I'm sure it's on the list.
These rat people are disgusting with their disregard for the history and actual heritage of the people of the South. I used to stroll the SC state grounds frequently when I was in college, one semester I did it almost every day at lunch between classes, and I got to know every statue and monument well. It would be a shame to lose them.
These rat people are disgusting with their disregard for the history and actual heritage of the people of the South. I used to stroll the SC state grounds frequently when I was in college, one semester I did it almost every day at lunch between classes, and I got to know every statue and monument well. It would be a shame to lose them.
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 7:30 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:15 am to KSGamecock
quote:It is what it is.
Are you kidding me? With how traumatic the war was, how many people died, we're saying that that loss cannot be remembered? Those people can't be mourned? Their sacrifice can't be recognized?
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:17 am to KSGamecock
And unemployment is down and the economy is up..........should’ve removed them when Bush was in office we might have missed that whole recession thing......and all these years the right has said all of our ills were due to God getting his arse banned from the schoolhouse.....when it was blocks of granite carved into the likeness of former slave owners, usually astride a horse, that was the problem all along.
Most of those monuments were erected to honor traitors and terrorists. Good riddance to bad rubbish. The south’s problem is the same as Germany after WW1...... the Union should have kept its foot on their traitorous necks for about 3 generations but instead they fricked around and let them think they were human and not the enslaving animals they were.
Most of those monuments were erected to honor traitors and terrorists. Good riddance to bad rubbish. The south’s problem is the same as Germany after WW1...... the Union should have kept its foot on their traitorous necks for about 3 generations but instead they fricked around and let them think they were human and not the enslaving animals they were.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:20 am to OBReb6
quote:
the entire OM student body enlisted in the confederate army at the outbreak of the war and suffered 100% casualties
The most successful class of Ole Miss alums ever!
frick that traitorous scum......
This post was edited on 6/5/18 at 7:21 am
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:25 am to Eli Goldfinger
quote:
I’m pretty sure the SPLC was founded by the KGB
Biggest hate group in the country.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:31 am to KSGamecock
The average confederate soldier was fighting because he was mislead by southern capital. When our dim witted ancestors began to realize that they were being used by wealthy planters in a pissing contest with wealthy industrialists they quit and went home. When you combine the number of southerners who deserted the confederate army with those who remained loyal to the United States and those who fought for the union you will realize that those monuments are monuments to a minority of traitors to the US. They aren’t heroes. The heroes are the deserters and those from the south that fought for the union.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:37 am to germandawg
quote:
mislead by southern capital.
Ok so you're an actual communist.
Go be a Marxist somewhere else.
I never said they were heroes or moralized it like you're trying to do. War is shitty, it always is, but anyone who's spent more than a few months in the Military understands that service, especially in times of war, is rarely motivated by the political motivations that caused the war. You fight for your very survival and for your friends next to you. Even if you go full libtard and think the war was entirely about slavery, racism, capitalism, oppression, whatever the frick you think, you should still be able to recognize that Soldiering and memorializing the sacrifice of Soldiers is something else entirely.
I get that you look at the post war denazification of Germany as some great thing. That's fine. Go live there and don't come back.
Posted on 6/5/18 at 7:56 am to germandawg
Hoping someone could shed light on how these monuments were taken down without referendums.
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