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Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:06 pm
Is there any way someone that drills a water well on your property will know they will hit good water at a certain depth or is it all a gamble? I hate the thought that you could spend a lot of money on a hole with no water or dirty water.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:28 pm to
I don't think any well is a sure thing. If the driller is familiar with a certain area and good water is abundant then it's obviously a good thing. My grandfather had a well drilled a few years ago for the purposes of watering his garden/orchard. They went 175ft and hit a vein of coal. His water is absolutely undrinkable and has an extremely high iron content. Still uses it to water the plants but he can't get any on the leaves or it will burn them. His neighbors have successfully had great wells drilled FYI. Just bad luck I guess.
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:29 pm to
Could they have gone deeper looking for better water?
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Could they have gone deeper looking for better water?



Yes but there was no guarantee they would find it and costs were adding up of course.
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:36 pm to
Yeah that's the dilemma, how deep do you go trying for good water.
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:38 pm to
We have a current well that is 115 deep and it has a lot of iron. It's enough that you can smell it heavily when showering and of course it stains the toilets and such. Considering doing a new deeper one but I hate to waste the money.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:40 pm to
Water softener will remove that iron.
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:50 pm to
We get like 2 gpm from the above ground pump could you recommend something that would work?
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 9:53 pm to
We installed 2 filters like this LINK but it didn't do much good at all.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:02 pm to
I used to have an iron water well, too. Still have it, but I use it for garden irrigation only now. City water line finally came through here and I tapped on it quick as I could. Iron water really makes a mess of everything. Clogs up waterlines, any household filters, dishwashers, washing machines, hot water heaters, and you are always fighting iron bacteria. Not to mention iron water discolors clothes and dishes. Two gallons a minute with an above ground is about what I had. I assume you have some kind of holding tank? Iron water will eat up those galvanized tanks, too. I'd get a bladder tank and install the water softener between the house and the holding tank. That softener will really reduce significantly the iron coming into your house. But it won't do anything to reduce the iron residue (rust) that's already in your pipes and plumbing. Also, you will have the same problem I had in that you have to use the raw iron water to recharge or clean out your softener. But it's still much better than NOT having a softener. Stay away from Culligan. Overpriced and not any better than anything you can get from Lowe's or Home Depot. Hope this helps? Edited to add: You have to have a minimum water pressure to recharge the softener, so you have to adjust that pressure on your above ground pump and be sure your holding tank can handle the pressure.
This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 10:07 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:04 pm to
Tried the filters first, also. Yep, you're right. They don't work. Edited to add: I even installed filters between the pump and the holding tank and filters between the tank and the house. It kept me hopping just changing the filters between the pump and the tank ever 48 hours. That got expensive real quick. There was so much iron in those pre tank filters that water couldn't go through them, so I know they removed SOME of the iron, but that approach wasn't feasible. My neighbor still uses his iron water well, but he also has a water softener. He changed out his plumbing pipes and has minimal water problems now. I forgot to add that you will probably need to add a chlorinator to your system as well to kill the iron bacteria. That bacteria is what causes the iron water smell. It really accumulates, especially in your toilet tanks and water heater.
This post was edited on 8/11/18 at 9:47 am
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

Is there any way someone that drills a water well on your property will know they will hit good water at a certain depth or is it all a gamble?


Yes, it is a gamble, but hedge your bet by speaking with your local county agent or geologist. They have information and data showing where iron water, sulfur water, and good limestone water is predominate in your area and at what depth.
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:10 pm to
I don't have a holding tank just the charge tank maybe 20 gallons then on to 2 rvs.
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:11 pm to
I should of clarified charging tank then 2 filters then on to the rvs
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

They went 175ft and hit a vein of coal. His water is absolutely undrinkable and has an extremely high iron content.


Not surprised at this. Iron water and sulfur water are often found in close proximity to coal veins. Got that same situation here in Virginia. But a mile south of me, there is no coal, only limestone, and the well water is just fine.
Posted by Redlos
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
1044 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:13 pm to
Where is the well?
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:14 pm to
What Parish?
Posted by feverish
Member since Oct 2014
337 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Edited to add: You have to have a minimum water pressure to recharge the softener, so you have to adjust that pressure on your above ground pump and be sure your holding tank can handle the pressure.


Pressure or gpm? Our pressure goes up to like 60 then kicks on at like 30 I think. Think the gpm is most we can get.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:30 pm to
Minimum pressure. Your GPM on the discharge side is limited by the size of your discharge pipe, the amount in your tank, and your pump pressure settings. If your water softener recharge cycle requires a minimum of 40 lbs. pressure, for instance, you must reset the low side of your pump to activate at no less than 40 lb. Check the discharge pressure on the holding tank to see what you have when your pump kicks on and go from there.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 10:38 pm to
Replacing those foot valves is a PITA, too. Stay away from the brass foot valves. Iron water eats them alive. Get a "plastic" type foot valve. And be sure to save enough water to prime the pump when you change out that foot valve. My old well is only 60 feet deep, but hauling 60 feet of double well hose was still difficult and nasty. I'd hate to haul out 115 feet of well hose...
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