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Revo S Baitcasting Question: Why it no cast far?
Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:42 pm
Ok, so I bought a Abu Garcia Revo S and have been casting it a ton. I also found an Abu Garcia Record 50 baitcaster (was dirty on the outside just from oil and dust) and an Ambassadur (that was so dirty inside i couldn't cast it 30') that I had bought in years past (both less than 10 years old). I thoroughly cleaned both barrel type reels.
Anyway, using similar baits between the three (1/4oz spoon 1/4oz jig head w/ plastic & 1/4oz jig head spinner bait), I can cast the Record and Ambassadur at least twice the distance as the Revo S.
The only difference I can tell mechanically between the three is that the Revo S's line guide doesn't move back in forth, whereas the other two do. Also, the other two have mono and the Revo S has Power Pro. Note1: the brake on the Revo S is on only tight enough the keep the cap on, no more, but I feel that this may be slowing it down.
Note2: I (may) have seen the light. F ME but these things are DEADLY accurate. Taking the three above named reels out on the water for the first time tomorrow so we'll see how they actually fare.
Anyway, using similar baits between the three (1/4oz spoon 1/4oz jig head w/ plastic & 1/4oz jig head spinner bait), I can cast the Record and Ambassadur at least twice the distance as the Revo S.
The only difference I can tell mechanically between the three is that the Revo S's line guide doesn't move back in forth, whereas the other two do. Also, the other two have mono and the Revo S has Power Pro. Note1: the brake on the Revo S is on only tight enough the keep the cap on, no more, but I feel that this may be slowing it down.
Note2: I (may) have seen the light. F ME but these things are DEADLY accurate. Taking the three above named reels out on the water for the first time tomorrow so we'll see how they actually fare.
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Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:47 pm to Coon
Might need to adjust the brakes
Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:48 pm to Tino
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Might need to adjust the brakes
how do i do this other than loosening the break knob thing? i mean, it's on the last thread as it is.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:52 pm to Coon
Open the Revo's side panel and pull the little white plugs(brakes) in the out position. You ll cast further but have more backlaches
Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:53 pm to Coon
You talking about the knob on the right of the reel?
Boats n hoes should be able to help you more when he gets on here, he knows a good bit about the revo's
On most reels, there is another brake or whatever on the left side, I'm thinking that one is the one you need to adjust for the casting distance, but I could be wrong
Boats n hoes should be able to help you more when he gets on here, he knows a good bit about the revo's
On most reels, there is another brake or whatever on the left side, I'm thinking that one is the one you need to adjust for the casting distance, but I could be wrong
Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:55 pm to Coon
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how do i do this other than loosening the break knob thing? i mean, it's on the last thread as it is.
If it's like most "modern" reels there is a cluster of "brake shoes" on the opposite side of the spool. They can be "pegged" so that they don't apply friction to the spool, or can be "released" so that they apply friction based on the centrifugal (?? may be improper term) forces applied to the brake shoes during the cast.
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Posted on 2/20/12 at 6:59 pm to dawg23
so looking at that picture, you want the tabs closer or farther to the word "pitch"?
Posted on 2/20/12 at 7:01 pm to Coon
farther
Posted on 2/20/12 at 7:02 pm to Coon
Posted on 2/20/12 at 7:46 pm to Coon
With the revos, the 3 brake tabs marked "pitch" are spring loaded, and are simply to stop a terrible backlash in case the spool free spins when pitching heavy baits, pretty much only bass fishing, so it's a little more forgiving. They can't be adjusted. The other 3 should be clicked toward the center of the spool to cast farther, or "turned off". If you look at them, you can see how if you push them till they click "out" towards the words pitch and away form the center, that when you cast they will slide out until they hit the ring that's on the side plate you pull off, and provide friction to slow the spool. So you want to push them all the way towards the center of the spool or the shaft or whatever you wanna call it.
Also, loosening the spool tension knob will help, but if it's on the last thread like you said then it should be far from putting any pressure on the spool anyway.
The revo S is a solid reel, but it's no SX or Curado, and it doesn't cast as far as those.
Also, loosening the spool tension knob will help, but if it's on the last thread like you said then it should be far from putting any pressure on the spool anyway.
The revo S is a solid reel, but it's no SX or Curado, and it doesn't cast as far as those.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 7:51 pm to Boats n Hose
Knew you would be able to help him
Posted on 2/20/12 at 7:52 pm to Boats n Hose
Is there any way to disengage the brake completely?
I understand this but am disappointed that a years old ambassadur that was completely rebuilt outcasts the crap out of it.
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The revo S is a solid reel, but it's no SX or Curado, and it doesn't cast as far as those
I understand this but am disappointed that a years old ambassadur that was completely rebuilt outcasts the crap out of it.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 7:58 pm to Coon
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Is there any way to disengage the brake completely?
What I said is about as close as you can come to completely disengaging it. Clicking the 3 adjustable brakes in will make it so they don't hit the ring, but the 3 pitch brakes will when the spool spins fast enough to overcome the little spring. Unless you somehow take the springs out and find a way to jam those orange tabs down, but I'm not sure this would really make that much of a difference.
Also, if you haven't done so yet, take the spool out and put one drop of reel oil of your choice on the shaft, one on the spool bearing, one on the other end of the shaft (where it contacts that side plate), and unscrew the spool tension knob until the cap comes off and put one drop on that bearing. Only one drop each, as too much oil attracts crud. It won't work miracles, but it will make it noticeably smoother and "looser" and may help it cast farther.
They don't come from the factory well oiled typically.
ETA also a small drop spread around the ring the centrifugal brakes hit against (on the side plate) would help as well
This post was edited on 2/20/12 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 2/20/12 at 8:26 pm to Boats n Hose
Thanks Boats...
I think I got it figured out. I didn't realize that the spring loaded breaks actually could be locked at the "in" position so I oiled it up like you said, locked everything "in" and went cast. WAYYYY too loose. It was birdnesting while the bait was still in the air. So I clicked the non-spring loaded ones "out" and left the spring loaded ones "in" and now I'm getting great distance. The spring loaded ones were cutting off my back end distance because they were engaging late in the cast. Either way, hopefully the drag gets tested tomorrow...
I think I got it figured out. I didn't realize that the spring loaded breaks actually could be locked at the "in" position so I oiled it up like you said, locked everything "in" and went cast. WAYYYY too loose. It was birdnesting while the bait was still in the air. So I clicked the non-spring loaded ones "out" and left the spring loaded ones "in" and now I'm getting great distance. The spring loaded ones were cutting off my back end distance because they were engaging late in the cast. Either way, hopefully the drag gets tested tomorrow...
Posted on 2/20/12 at 8:33 pm to Coon
Well shite, I never even tried to click in the spring loaded ones. Maybe that's why mine don't cast as far as I'd like with lighter baits. 
I'll try it when I go fish wednesday
You might want to put at least a little tension on the spool tension knob, especially when it's windy, otherwise you have to be almost perfect with your thumb to stop a birdnest.
ETA also, to anyone else reading this, the oiling thing is generally a good idea with any new baitcaster you get. They go light on the oil and heavy on the grease from the factory for the most part, wiping and reoiling those parts usually helps a new real. I know some people who get intense about it will completely break down and completely clean and flush bearings and regrease and reoil a new reel, but I'm not gonna do that
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I don't think you'll have any issues with the drag, if you tighten that drag down and have some heavy braid on there you can pull a damn log off the bottom. I know because I've done it.
I'll try it when I go fish wednesday You might want to put at least a little tension on the spool tension knob, especially when it's windy, otherwise you have to be almost perfect with your thumb to stop a birdnest.
ETA also, to anyone else reading this, the oiling thing is generally a good idea with any new baitcaster you get. They go light on the oil and heavy on the grease from the factory for the most part, wiping and reoiling those parts usually helps a new real. I know some people who get intense about it will completely break down and completely clean and flush bearings and regrease and reoil a new reel, but I'm not gonna do that
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hopefully the drag gets tested tomorrow
I don't think you'll have any issues with the drag, if you tighten that drag down and have some heavy braid on there you can pull a damn log off the bottom. I know because I've done it.
This post was edited on 2/20/12 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 2/20/12 at 8:37 pm to Boats n Hose
With the "pitch" ones out it gives a good amount of breaking for far casting with the tension knob probably 3/4 loose (for me). With all the tabs "in" there's no way you can put any muscle behind the cast without it tangling mid air.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 8:40 pm to Coon
Yea, I did it once when I forgot to check the brakes before throwing a new reel and had to respool the reel after the first cast
Posted on 2/20/12 at 9:45 pm to Boats n Hose
What are the benefits of the HS version of the Revo reels vs the normal version? I've always used spinning reels for saltwater fishing and don't have any experience with baitcasters. I never felt like dealing with the birdnest headaches.
Posted on 2/20/12 at 9:49 pm to LSU Tigershark
HS just stands for high speed. Higher gear ratio, it reels in faster than the other version. I think normal ones are 6.something to 1 and hS are 7.something to 1. Same as the difference between the Curado 200E5 and 200E7 (except the E5 has a lower gear ratio than most revos).
Posted on 2/20/12 at 10:11 pm to Boats n Hose
What are the benefits of higher speed that would make the regular version inadequate in the same situation? I know it is just user preference, but I didn't know if it was specific for different types of fishing
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