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re: Hunting Club - Buck restrictions?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 9:08 am to upgrade
Posted on 10/30/22 at 9:08 am to upgrade
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You are an Ole Miss fan
So, you want me to be a fair weathered fan, and quit rooting for an organization that isn’t like Alabama? Sorry, I have integrity and unless the organization does something catastrophic/shameful (like stealing money from a children's hospital) I’ll stick with them.
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Posted on 10/30/22 at 9:38 am to Shabath227
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We did not fire a shot on that property for four years because we let young bucks walk. We have another property that we shoot does on.
How big of a property are we talking about? Not killing a doe on a couple hundred acres or larger is a problem. Scheduled to kill 127 deer this winter (70 does and 43 bucks on 2900 acres and that is just maintain heard numbers and not reduce any). No, it isn’t fenced.
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Tons of acorns on my property. Low pressure
This doesn’t creat a 230lb. deer. I would assume it is at least 4.5 unless you are in the Midwest or farther North.
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Land and Legacy and Mississippi Deer Lab podcast are two of my favorites
I listen to plenty of podcasts and learn from them time to time. I heard the one you are talking about, but I wouldn’t blindly follow everything they say. Like the most common phrase used is “it depends”. Not all properties/locations are the same.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 10:26 am to Shabath227
SWMS across 61 from the river. Lots of hardwoods. I’m telling you we are killing 235lb young 8 points. Unless their racks are that malnourished
This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/30/22 at 11:28 am to The Levee
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Unless their racks are that malnourished
Makes more sense than 3.5 year old 230lbs. Teeth should get you a better age estimate than horn size.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 11:34 am to Outdoorreb
I wish I knew how to post a pic
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:22 pm to The Levee
Posted on 10/30/22 at 12:51 pm to Outdoorreb
Can’t get it to work
This post was edited on 10/30/22 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:04 pm to The Levee
Works for me. Copy the “direct link” and then paste it in the image tab. (It doesn’t work when I copy and paste just the link)don’t resize the image either.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:06 pm to Outdoorreb
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:39 pm to The Levee
I was hoping to see teeth but I would definitely say 4.5 plus and tend to say 5.5.
P.s. I wonder what people would say about that jaw I posted looks like. Both jaws look the same. Wounded if y’all have seen that before or how often.
P.s. I wonder what people would say about that jaw I posted looks like. Both jaws look the same. Wounded if y’all have seen that before or how often.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 1:50 pm to Outdoorreb
How can I get those racks bigger. I have a bunch of big deer like that. Should I kill that one?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 2:36 pm to The Levee
our club has the following rules
buck must be
135 for 8 points
140 for 9 points
155 for 10 points plus
points are main frame, for example a mainframe 8 that has split g2's has 10 scoreable points but is classified as an 8 by our rules. avoyelles parish. bucks must be mature 4.5 or better
buck must be
135 for 8 points
140 for 9 points
155 for 10 points plus
points are main frame, for example a mainframe 8 that has split g2's has 10 scoreable points but is classified as an 8 by our rules. avoyelles parish. bucks must be mature 4.5 or better
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:39 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Drunken Tiger,
I never mentioned kids. I’m assuming he’s a grown man. The simple fact is it’s much more difficult to kill a 5 yr old bucks than it is a 2.5 yr old buck.
I personally have a 90-100 inch 8 pt that I’m chasing this year because he’s a 5 plus yr old deer.
I would personally rather a kid shoot a small buck as his first deer and work up to the bigger bucks.
IMO, It makes them appreciate each level of success more.
As for buying the land around me, that’s my plan, but right now I’m doing all I can to work with my neighbors to help create a strong habitat and a quality deer herd. Why, so our kids and grandkids have something better to hunt than I did at their age!
I never mentioned kids. I’m assuming he’s a grown man. The simple fact is it’s much more difficult to kill a 5 yr old bucks than it is a 2.5 yr old buck.
I personally have a 90-100 inch 8 pt that I’m chasing this year because he’s a 5 plus yr old deer.
I would personally rather a kid shoot a small buck as his first deer and work up to the bigger bucks.
IMO, It makes them appreciate each level of success more.
As for buying the land around me, that’s my plan, but right now I’m doing all I can to work with my neighbors to help create a strong habitat and a quality deer herd. Why, so our kids and grandkids have something better to hunt than I did at their age!
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:40 pm to Outdoorreb
Not sure. How big of a property is it? What is the buck:doe ratio? What is the deer:acre ratio? Are you on DMAP?
2,800 acres
1:1.6(buck:doe)
1:7.4(deer:acre)
Goal is to remove 45-50 bucks (all age groups) and 70-75 does
Bucks:(age-cull/harvest/remove)
1.5-10
2.5-7
3.5-5
4.5-7
5.5+-19(all of them)
Goal is to remove all bucks in age classes from 1.5-4.5 that are in the bottom 33% of said age class, and remove all bucks 5.5+.
That is this year and this property. Not every property could do this and I’m sure others could even be managed harsher. You have to know that there will be mistakes made. I’m sure there will be a couple bucks shot that didn’t need to be shot and others let go that should have been shot.
And again this property isn’t high fenced, so crappy deer can and will move on here and every once in a while better deer will come on it.
2,800 acres
1:1.6(buck:doe)
1:7.4(deer:acre)
Goal is to remove 45-50 bucks (all age groups) and 70-75 does
Bucks:(age-cull/harvest/remove)
1.5-10
2.5-7
3.5-5
4.5-7
5.5+-19(all of them)
Goal is to remove all bucks in age classes from 1.5-4.5 that are in the bottom 33% of said age class, and remove all bucks 5.5+.
That is this year and this property. Not every property could do this and I’m sure others could even be managed harsher. You have to know that there will be mistakes made. I’m sure there will be a couple bucks shot that didn’t need to be shot and others let go that should have been shot.
And again this property isn’t high fenced, so crappy deer can and will move on here and every once in a while better deer will come on it.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 3:57 pm to Outdoorreb
OutdoorReb,
This property is in southern Missouri in the Ozarks where there isn’t an over abundance of deer. There are years where we average seeing 1-2 deer per hunt, and see very little population growth.
It’s a very poor area and everyone hunts. I’m talking, husband, wife, and kids. I’m talking every family. Missouri has a 10 day gun season and opening morning on the second Saturday of November sounds like a war zone. None of us have ever seen more than 3-4 does in a food plot at one time.
The property we used to lease, we would each tag out on does and would see plenty of does.
This property is in southern Missouri in the Ozarks where there isn’t an over abundance of deer. There are years where we average seeing 1-2 deer per hunt, and see very little population growth.
It’s a very poor area and everyone hunts. I’m talking, husband, wife, and kids. I’m talking every family. Missouri has a 10 day gun season and opening morning on the second Saturday of November sounds like a war zone. None of us have ever seen more than 3-4 does in a food plot at one time.
The property we used to lease, we would each tag out on does and would see plenty of does.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 4:11 pm to The Levee
Levee, I agree with outdoor Reb, that deer is at least 4.5, but probably 5.5 or older.
My place that I purchased this year has a few like that. I do have a 9 pt that’s 5.5 (or older) and pushing 140 inches, and a 4.5 yr old 8 pt that’s about 130/135 inches. I have 3-4 deer just like yours that are 5 plus yrs old. I have more of those mature scrub bucks than I do young bucks.
I have a 3 yr old 8 pt that’s 130/135 inches. He has great potential. I then have a couple of potential 2 yr olds on my lease property that next door.
I feel like the guys that leased the property for 20 years shot there better 2/3 yr old bucks because they are easier to kill.
My place that I purchased this year has a few like that. I do have a 9 pt that’s 5.5 (or older) and pushing 140 inches, and a 4.5 yr old 8 pt that’s about 130/135 inches. I have 3-4 deer just like yours that are 5 plus yrs old. I have more of those mature scrub bucks than I do young bucks.
I have a 3 yr old 8 pt that’s 130/135 inches. He has great potential. I then have a couple of potential 2 yr olds on my lease property that next door.
I feel like the guys that leased the property for 20 years shot there better 2/3 yr old bucks because they are easier to kill.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 5:56 pm to Shabath227
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I’m doing all I can to work with my neighbors to help create a strong habitat and a quality deer herd. Why, so our kids and grandkids have something better to hunt than I did at their age!
The point is that your definition of a strong habitat and quality deer herd are subjective and based around your goals. Nature doesn’t care. There’s nothing natural about managing a deer herd for the upper quadrant of antler score the genetics of the area are capable of, which is what a lot of us are trying to do. There is nothing wrong with managing for high density and opportunity as long as it’s legal. People hunt deer for different reasons than waiting 5 years to pull a trigger.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:03 pm to Outdoorreb
I’ve got 600 acres. What should I do?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:04 pm to Shabath227
What about this one?
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:03 pm to The Levee
IMO, that’s at most a 3 yr old deer. Look at the body size of that deer compared to the bruiser of a body that you showed earlier.
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