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re: CCA has really lost its way….
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:12 pm to lsuson
Posted on 6/11/25 at 10:12 pm to lsuson
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They haven’t lobbied hard against the pogie boats. Wonder why? Hmmm
Wtf are you talking about. We lobbied hard against Pogie boats for 3-4 straight years. There was no solution but a compromise.
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 6:21 am to Motorboat
Yeah you can hate on CCA for also merging else but pogy boats isn’t one of them. They have been very vocal on that issue but it does not matter if the LWFC doesn’t step in
Many many issues have been brought up in front of the Commsion with expert opinions and it falls on deaf ears
The north La commissioners don’t know enough about the issues and aren’t going to rock the boat so they essentially side with the others
Many many issues have been brought up in front of the Commsion with expert opinions and it falls on deaf ears
The north La commissioners don’t know enough about the issues and aren’t going to rock the boat so they essentially side with the others
Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:50 am to Tiger Prawn
If they were truly concerned about coastal habitat, they would be taking a stand on the spotlighting redfish guides spending all night running through shallow marsh on giant barges with multiple surface drives.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:48 am to Icansee4miles
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If they were truly concerned about coastal habitat, they would be taking a stand on the spotlighting redfish guides spending all night running through shallow marsh on giant barges with multiple surface drives.
Then CCA alienates another faction of fishermen. They can never make everyone happy, as shown in this thread. Any political organization must pick its battles. If you want a certain battle fought, then join CCA and participate or start your own focused organiztion. I can promise you that CCA is welcoming to many views and offers many levels of participation.
But if you want to stand on the sidelines and point fingers, that is also your right.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:18 am to Motorboat
Pretty disingenuous comment, trying to compare what one person has done compared to an organization that receives millions of dollars on the alleged promise of helping fisherman/the resource and has some of the largest political capital in the state.
Regardless, CCA started out with a noble cause, and still does some good work, but has largely turned into an organization of who's who that cares more about the prestige of being on the board, running a cool banquet, etc, than care about burning some political capital/doing the work. It's been 10-15 years now and the pogie industry is still raping our redfish/tarpon populations, our structure that has made LA a staple for nearshore/offshore are being cut down, there has been little to no action to establish reef zones (unlike our neighbors to the East), and water access to navigable waters still doesn't even appear to be on CCA's task list.
Not to say CCA hasn't done good work, they have, including helping put out some reefs in Lake P. But at the end of the day, CCA rakes in big money every year just to turn around and say year after year that "we tried."
I say all of this as a member of CCA, because let's be honest--we all want to catch a Chevy Silverado.
Regardless, CCA started out with a noble cause, and still does some good work, but has largely turned into an organization of who's who that cares more about the prestige of being on the board, running a cool banquet, etc, than care about burning some political capital/doing the work. It's been 10-15 years now and the pogie industry is still raping our redfish/tarpon populations, our structure that has made LA a staple for nearshore/offshore are being cut down, there has been little to no action to establish reef zones (unlike our neighbors to the East), and water access to navigable waters still doesn't even appear to be on CCA's task list.
Not to say CCA hasn't done good work, they have, including helping put out some reefs in Lake P. But at the end of the day, CCA rakes in big money every year just to turn around and say year after year that "we tried."
I say all of this as a member of CCA, because let's be honest--we all want to catch a Chevy Silverado.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:48 am to SilverPoon985
What is disingenous? You are the one flip flopping all ovet he place trying to justify an opinion for which you have no knowledge.
You appear to be a STAR member and have likely never participated in CCA in any meaningful way other than for purposes of personal enrichment (the chance to win a truck).
I have given much time and money and can assure you that the organization works very hard to say "we tried". Again, what else do you want them to do? we cannot form a militia to fight with violence over these issues.
CCA has members on the LDWF, the gulf council, the LA legislature, etc. Our board members are on conference calls about menhaden TODAY.
You appear to be a STAR member and have likely never participated in CCA in any meaningful way other than for purposes of personal enrichment (the chance to win a truck).
I have given much time and money and can assure you that the organization works very hard to say "we tried". Again, what else do you want them to do? we cannot form a militia to fight with violence over these issues.
CCA has members on the LDWF, the gulf council, the LA legislature, etc. Our board members are on conference calls about menhaden TODAY.
This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 10:51 am
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:49 am to Motorboat
I used to be very active. Assisted with events, took legislators fishing during their annual event, never missed a banquet, bought auction items…I felt they were waffling too much and have cut way back.
Look, there are two legislators holding up running the Pogie boats off, like every other GOA state has-Pat Connick and Joseph Orgeron. If we cannot muster up enough muscle to push these two miscreants aside, we’ve got no chance for moving other important issues through.
Look, there are two legislators holding up running the Pogie boats off, like every other GOA state has-Pat Connick and Joseph Orgeron. If we cannot muster up enough muscle to push these two miscreants aside, we’ve got no chance for moving other important issues through.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:57 am to Icansee4miles
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I felt they were waffling too much and have cut way back.
be specific and offer the solution besides unseating sitting legislators, which is noble, but these legislators also have special interests (pogies) propping them up. What do you want?
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:40 am to Motorboat
Spend money defeating the two obstacles. We would be doing the whole state a favor, they are two of the worst legislators, out of a pretty poor bunch
Posted on 6/12/25 at 12:45 pm to Motorboat
Have to be a CCA member to be in the STAR. So yeah, happy to be a CCA member. As for meaningful, that a little vague and subjective.
Also, have you ever heard the expression too many chiefs and not enough indians. I am happy to pay/give money (being an indian) to an organization/group that aligns with my values and proactive uses those dollars tofurther those values (the chiefs). CCA aligns with some of those values as they do some good work, which justifies my measly money I give them every year. Other groups are more in line with my values, i.e. they receive more.
Also if CCA hates the idea of people entering a tournament for the purpose of winning something--maybe they shouldn't have a tournament? Just hope I win that Silverado!
Also, have you ever heard the expression too many chiefs and not enough indians. I am happy to pay/give money (being an indian) to an organization/group that aligns with my values and proactive uses those dollars tofurther those values (the chiefs). CCA aligns with some of those values as they do some good work, which justifies my measly money I give them every year. Other groups are more in line with my values, i.e. they receive more.
Also if CCA hates the idea of people entering a tournament for the purpose of winning something--maybe they shouldn't have a tournament? Just hope I win that Silverado!
Posted on 6/12/25 at 1:20 pm to SilverPoon985
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As for meaningful, that a little vague and subjective.
Have you attended a local chapter meeting? Have you volunteered to trash pick ups, kid outreach, or marsh planting? Have you volunteered to help organize a banquet? Have you attended an information session? Have you been to a ldwf hearing? Have you voted in a board meeting?
I can assure there are many ways to participate and have your voice heard within the organization. Better to be present than criticize from a keyboard.
Anyone can attend a banquet or join a tournament. Which is appreciated, but you need to be aware of your options.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 2:59 pm to Motorboat
Appreciate the insight.
Most of which I have done and continue to do as a member (more so just a decent outdoorsman), including being present to criticize--albeit this keyboard stuff is fun and seems to be getting directly to many CCA higher ups.
Happy Fishing this Summer.
Most of which I have done and continue to do as a member (more so just a decent outdoorsman), including being present to criticize--albeit this keyboard stuff is fun and seems to be getting directly to many CCA higher ups.
Happy Fishing this Summer.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:02 pm to SilverPoon985
I’m not a higher up by any means. Just a humble servant hoping for the best for my state and fishery. It’s a losing batte.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:08 pm to Motorboat
Your work is appreciated.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:20 pm to Motorboat
bullshite. What about the hatchery in SWLA? Who gave funds to that said hatchery???
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:22 pm to lsuson
I have no idea what you are talking about. Not my area.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 3:31 pm to Motorboat
Maybe it was LDWF that owns one but I remember seeing a donation to that said hatchery from the pogie industry. Talk about a conflict of interest if I’ve ever seen one. They like to buy politicians. CCA has enough damn money. They should do the same to fix this pogie industry abuse.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 4:30 pm to Motorboat
Care to comment on why CCA supported the joint committee's opposition to a reduction in redfish limits in line with the initial fact-based NOI issued by LDWF? Doesn't seem very "conservation-y."
Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:07 pm to bluemoons
I’m not familiar with that. Link?
Also, if it was done, it was done by membership/board approval. Member ship wanted to keep 5 fish. Pretty simple baw.
Ha. This means nothing anymore.
Also, if it was done, it was done by membership/board approval. Member ship wanted to keep 5 fish. Pretty simple baw.
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fact-based NOI
Ha. This means nothing anymore.
Posted on 6/12/25 at 5:15 pm to Motorboat
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Member ship wanted to keep 5 fish. Pretty simple baw
The members
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