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re: The Battle of Lookout Mountain was waged on this day 160 years ago...

Posted on 11/25/23 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Mushroom1968
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Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 8:26 am to
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The kicker, the common foot solider was actually fighting against his own interests as slavery depressed wages for lower class white southerners



I agree, slave owners had a big advantage over most everyone else in the South. Saying that, I imagine the news your typical rural southerners got back then, they probably didn’t understand all the details of the war, just thought they were being invaded, believed their local politicians, etc.
Posted by greenbean
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 8:47 am to
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I agree, slave owners had a big advantage over most everyone else in the South. Saying that, I imagine the news your typical rural southerners got back then, they probably didn’t understand all the details of the war, just thought they were being invaded, believed their local politicians, etc.



No doubt most didn't fully understand the war, their frame of reference came from the elites. Just like many elites now who are trying to destroy this country.
Posted by F1y0n7h3W4LL
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Member since Jul 2019
4119 posts
Posted on 11/25/23 at 8:56 am to
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Looking like time for another civil war.


The last time we had a civil war, the losing side was 100 years in recovery.

If we have one, I'm thinking it will be guerilla.
Posted by greenbean
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:07 am to
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Looking like time for another civil war.



The last time we had a civil war, the losing side was 100 years in recovery.

If we have one, I'm thinking it will be guerilla.




Concur, folks are too fat, lazy and comfortable now. Few folks are going to "volunteer." Additionally probably half of income for lower class southerners comes from the federal government.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:21 am to
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Grant epitomizes the American dream as far as I'm concerned. He's a man of blue collar, middle class upbringing who absolutely fails at everything in life aside from marriage prior to the outbreak of the American Civil War. When Lincoln was elected in November 1860, he was a book keeper working for his younger brother at their father's store. Eight years later he himself would be getting elected President of the United States.

Dude loses all of his money thanks to the Bernie Madoff of his day and survives on other peoples' charity before finding out he's dying of throat cancer. Worried that he will leave his family destitute and homeless upon his death, he embarked on a race against time to write and publish his memoirs, sometimes writing more than 10,000 words in a single day. He finished writing them quite literally one week before his death. When they were finally published, they were among the best selling works of American literature of the 19th century, guaranteeing that his family would not have to want for anything for the remainder of their lives.

What's crazy about the man's memoirs is how so well-written they are. There were accusations from some critics that Mark Twain must have ghostwritten them because of how eloquent and well put together the text as. However, Twain swore until his dying day that all he did was publish and never once polished or re-wrote Grant's words.


Hell yeah
This post was edited on 11/25/23 at 11:07 am
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 11/25/23 at 9:27 am to
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Looking like time for another civil war.

The fat chuds who say this always do so with the understanding that they won’t have to do the fighting or be inconvenienced in any way.
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