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re: Hyundai's Genesis will now be an all new luxury brand. First model: The G90

Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:40 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:40 am to
I guess all those f250s and suburbans and denalis just appear out of nowhere around here.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:42 am to
God damn you are stupid. I am done.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:43 am to
Yea, I'm stupid for noticing the costs of vehicles that are common in his area and commonly posted on this forum.
Posted by mmonro3
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 11:43 am to
I just saw you bickering and decided to join in. The bickering part you do everyday on here, so its pretty easy for me to accomplish my task. Enjoy your dart and prius lol. Two cars with zero soul.
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:01 pm to
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The G90 is Genesis’s full-size flagship, but unlike some luxury cars based on non-luxury counterparts, the G90 isn’t a Hyundai with a fancy badge slapped on. It uses its own dedicated platform and is powered by one of two exclusive engines: either a 3.3-liter twin-turbo V-6 or a 5.0-liter V-8, both available with rear-wheel or all-wheel drive.
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LNCHBOX: Which Honda, Nissan and Toyota are the RLX, Q70, and the LS based on again?


The RLX is built on the Accord platform.

https://wardsauto.com/test-drives/looks-aren-t-everything-rlx
"Honda builds the RLX in Sayama, Japan, on the same R-Large sedan platform that supports other FWD sedans, namely the Honda Accord and Acura TL and TSX"

Q70:
https://www.star-telegram.com/cars/g-chambers-williams/article71968622.html
"The QX70 rides on the rear-drive chassis of the Infiniti Q50 sport sedan. The only Nissan-branded vehicle that uses that same architecture is the rear-drive 370Z sports car."

I'm sure the Nissan "Z" cars have been around much longer than the Infiniti brand.

The LS has it's own chassis but the Lexus ES is built on the Toyota Camry/Avalon chassis.
https://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/2013_lexus_es
"Lexus ES is the 6th generation of the brands entry-level luxury stalwart. And, while it has evolved greatly over the years, never before has it seen such substantial change, as it is now based on the stretched Camry chassis of the upcoming full-size Toyota Avalon"

Oh, I found this little tidbit of information that will make you dislike Toyota now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS
"A domestic-market version of the LS 400 and LS 430, badged as Toyota Celsior was sold in Japan until the Lexus marque was introduced there in 2006.

I guess what you said here doesn't hold water:
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The difference is that those manufactures didn't just come out of nowhere and try to pass off a significantly more expensive car as direct competition for the established luxury brands. They did it under a different name from the get go. Hyundai tried that, and clearly they've decided it isn't working, hence the rebrand.


It's pretty obvious you are full of shite and are arguing despite the fact you don't have a clue about the subject.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:07 pm to
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Toyota, Nissan, GM and Ford all sell 60k vehicles.


Nissan actually has a 150K vehicle that they sell.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:07 pm to
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The RLX is built on the Accord platform.



But it isn't a rebadged Accord, which was the argument being made.

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Q70:
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"The QX70 rides on the rear-drive chassis of the Infiniti Q50 sport sedan. The only Nissan-branded vehicle that uses that same architecture is the rear-drive 370Z sports car."



You're really gonna try to tell me you're saying the Q70 is a rebadged Nissan Z? That article was saying that the only rwd Nissan vehicle is the Z, not that the Q is built on the Z's exact chassis.

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Oh, I found this little tidbit of information that will make you dislike Toyota now.
LINK
"A domestic-market version of the LS 400 and LS 430, badged as Toyota Celsior was sold in Japan until the Lexus marque was introduced there in 2006.



Zero relevance to the discussion.

You really tried to get me, and you failed. I'm sure you'll still get upvotes though.

This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:31 pm to
Slackster posted this:
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The G90 is Genesis’s full-size flagship, but unlike some luxury cars based on non-luxury counterparts, the G90 isn’t a Hyundai with a fancy badge slapped on. It uses its own dedicated platform

You posted this:
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Which Honda, Nissan and Toyota are the RLX, Q70, and the LS based on again?

Slackster's post states "unlike some luxury cars based on non-luxury counterparts, the G90 isn’t a Hyundai with a fancy badge slapped on". Are you arguing this point?

Or is this another one of your weird tactics of arguing a small meaningless point? Like when it appeared you were a total idiot for not knowing that most if not all auto manufacturers had luxury lines. But, you were stupidly only arguing about the timing of Hyundai's introduction of their luxury line.

BTW, remember the ridiculous comment you stated as fact that ALL manufacturers had re-badged from the very beginning? How about Toyota, of all companies doing the same damn thing Hyundai is doing? Amazing huh?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:36 pm to
There is more than a badge slapped on to the cars you posted. You are wrong, it's ok.
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 12:59 pm to
Again, Slackster's post stated: "The G90 is Genesis’s full-size flagship, but unlike some luxury cars based on non-luxury counterparts, the G90 isn’t a Hyundai with a fancy badge slapped on. It uses its own dedicated platform"

The G90 has it's own platform that isn't shared with any other car that is manufactured. That makes it unique and not a car sharing a chassis of a Hyundai or Kia. It is not a re-badge, it is the only car in the world with that chassis.

And again, your post in response to Slackster's stated: "Which Honda, Nissan and Toyota are the RLX, Q70, and the LS based on again?"

I pointed out that the RLX shares a chassis/platform with the Honda Accord and the Q70 as you said, or QX70 as it is really known, shares the same platrorm with the Nissan 370Z and the long line of "Z's" that have come before it.

So yes, if any autos mentioned above could ever be possibly considered a re-badge it would be the two from your post. But, now that you are proven wrong once again, you are probably going to say that you are arguing that the QX70 or RLX don't offer the same colors that are available on the Honda Accord or Nissan 370Z and that was the point you were arguing the entire time.

Just like this conversation earlier when you dropped these fascinating bits of information https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/display.aspx?sp=64933770&s=2&p=64927196#64933770
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:03 pm to
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So yes, if any autos mentioned above could ever be possibly considered a re-badge


The frick they can.

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Just like this conversation earlier when you dropped these fascinating bits of information LINK




What exactly ion that wall of text went against what I posted? None of those manufacturers did what Hyundai tried with the Genesis and Equus. If you had listed VW and the Phaeton, you might have a point.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:12 pm to
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None of those manufacturers did what Hyundai tried with the Genesis and Equus.


"A domestic-market version of the LS 400 and LS 430, badged as Toyota Celsior was sold in Japan until the Lexus marque was introduced there in 2006. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_LS
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:13 pm to
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"A domestic-market version of the LS 400 and LS 430, badged as Toyota Celsior was sold in Japan until the Lexus marque was introduced there in 2006.


Because Lexus didn't exist in Japan. Holy shite, are you really using that as an example?

ETA: And regardless, we're talking about this market. I guess next you're going to tell me that the NSX is a rebadged Honda because it's the Honda NSX is Japan.
This post was edited on 8/25/16 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:23 pm to
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Because Lexus didn't exist in Japan. Holy shite, are you really using that as an example?


Can you read? The LS 400 and LS 430 were sold as Toyota cars.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Can you read?


Sure seems you can't. Here is the important part from your own quote you clealry missed.

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until the Lexus marque was introduced there in 2006
Posted by Tiger Ree
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:31 pm to
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Sure seems you can't. Here is the important part from your own quote you clealry missed.

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until the Lexus marque was introduced there in 2006


So you agree with the Lexus marque being introduced n 2006 and the LS 400 and LS 430 being sold as Toyota until that happened.

Uh, it was you who posted this, not me:
quote:

The difference is that those manufactures didn't just come out of nowhere and try to pass off a significantly more expensive car as direct competition for the established luxury brands. They did it under a different name from the get go.


Maybe you need to argue with yourself for a while.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 2:51 pm to
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So you agree with the Lexus marque being introduced n 2006 and the LS 400 and LS 430 being sold as Toyota until that happened.



Not in this country, no.

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Uh, it was you who posted this, not me:

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The difference is that those manufactures didn't just come out of nowhere and try to pass off a significantly more expensive car as direct competition for the established luxury brands. They did it under a different name from the get go.



Maybe you need to argue with yourself for a while.


If you don't see how that has nothing to do with what you've posted, I don't know what to tell you. You should probably just let the other guys call me names.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:02 pm to
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People don't buy luxury cars for their reliability.


most people might not buy them for reliability but that doesn't mean they don't consider it when purchasing.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
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Posted on 8/25/16 at 3:15 pm to
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Not in this country, no.


Ha, I knew you would try to pull some shite like this. I thought it would be the colors offered by the different car lines. But NO, now it depends on what country it happened in. As long as it happens in another country it's is okay, but don't let that shite happen in the good ole US. And since it didn't happen in the US Lnchbox is correct about everything he has posted in this thread !!!

You argue ridiculous stuff for 3 or 4 pages THEN start crawfishing and make up stupid shite that people are supposed to believe is what you were arguing about the whole time.
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