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re: How do you help an alcoholic friend
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:41 am to mikeboss550
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:41 am to mikeboss550
I guess everyone is different in their counseling, but to me the only way to quit is cold turkey. I come from a family a alcoholics and the ones that quit did not do it in their own accord. At the same time I'm not talking about jail time or a court order. It always been straight up intervention style. I've visited palmetto too many times.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 2:42 am
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Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:43 am to CuseTiger
I'm dealing with the same thing. It blows.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:44 am to CuseTiger
First thing you need to know is no matter what you do (dont drink around him, ask him to quit, intervention) he will not quit drinking unless he wants to. Be there for him in whatever way he needs/asks & encourage him; go to meetings with him, in lieu of the crawfish boil, offer him alternative plans, listen to him & encourage him. That's really all anyone can do, it's very painful to watch a friend go down that road.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 2:44 am to tigersownall
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I guess everyone is different in their counseling, but to me the only way to quit is cold turkey
I agree that is the best way, there is no doubt, but if people have a job and a family my way is better IMO. Again...just my opinion based on experience.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:16 am to mikeboss550
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be there for him and when you are be the "a-hole" and have him set a limit for the night once he hits it, dont under any circumstances let him go over
Holy shite. I hope you're kidding.
While I don't really understand the whole phenomenon of being an addict to something, I would say:
#1. Suggest he go to AA meetings or else take some other form of decisive action.
#2. Don't be one of the persons in his life who encourages his bad behavior.
#3. Try your best to keep a healthy distance from him, while at the same time not disowning or embarrassing him.
P.S. -- The "rock bottom" concept is one of the most bullshite ideas out there. It doesn't really exist for anybody. I'm not necessarily talking about addiction, but just in general. Things can always get worse unless you take decisive steps to stop them from getting worse.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:18 am to Doc Fenton
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Holy shite. I hope you're kidding.
What he suggested isn't the worst idea as long as his friend is on board and agrees to lower his "limit" every week.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:22 am to lsu480
I'm sorry, but that's an absolutely terribly fricktasticly bad idea. You have a friend who is an alcoholic so you are going to play mommy to him when he goes out to save him from himself? GTFO.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:29 am to Doc Fenton
quote:Sure it exists - just not everyone reaches it. A better name is, the day you decide to turn your life around.
P.S. -- The "rock bottom" concept is one of the most bullshite ideas out there. It doesn't really exist for anybody.
It's the day you have had enough and decide not to live that way anymore.
For some it's the day you realize what you lost and you stop the behavior that got you there. For others, it's the day you empty a pistol into your piece of crap car when it dies again and you start working your arse off to never drive a pos car again.
But never doubt hitting Rock Bottom is a real day. A real awakening - when you decide you had enough and change.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:33 am to Doc Fenton
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I'm sorry, but that's an absolutely terribly fricktasticly bad idea. You have a friend who is an alcoholic so you are going to play mommy to him when he goes out to save him from himself? GTFO.
Did you miss the part where I said "as long as his friend is on board"????? Yes I would play "mommy" or do ANYTHING to help a loved one get past that if they really wanted help.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:34 am to Bullfrog
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A better name is, the day you decide to turn your life around.
Yes, therefore it's not really rock bottom.
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A real awakening - when you decide you had enough and change
Yes, therefore it's not really rock bottom.
frick, man, what do you think the term "rock" is supposed to imply? Both things you described above are of somebody finally getting angry enough to do something, which when you think about it, is the exact opposite of having some outside barrier stopping them from dropping any lower.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:36 am to lsu480
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Did you miss the part where I said "as long as his friend is on board"?????
No.
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Yes I would play "mommy" or do ANYTHING to help a loved one get past that if they really wanted help.
Well that's just ridiculous. I can't fathom a system like that actually making things better for someone rather than worse.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:42 am to Doc Fenton
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Well that's just ridiculous. I can't fathom a system like that actually making things better for someone rather than worse.
Well in my experience it has worked, if it hasn't for you so be it. How many times have you tried it and what is your success and failure rate? Im not calling you out, I am just curious. If someone wants support, and you are there for them, things can change pretty quickly.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:46 am to Doc Fenton
You misinterpret. Your point is not mine. Rock Bottom is your internal barrier or limit and its different from person to person.
It's not the ground at the bottom of a cliff you can see. It's an event. And what you think is Rock Bottom for someone else, they may feel is fine with them.
You actually come off as a pretty miserable fellow with a ton of growing up to do. Splitting hairs that don't need splitting. Good Luck.
Now get off my lawn.
It's not the ground at the bottom of a cliff you can see. It's an event. And what you think is Rock Bottom for someone else, they may feel is fine with them.
You actually come off as a pretty miserable fellow with a ton of growing up to do. Splitting hairs that don't need splitting. Good Luck.
Now get off my lawn.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 4:50 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:48 am to lsu480
Was this the same guy who switched to Xanax and pot?
I would never try it, because it's dumb.
Would you agree to help manage your friend's calories if he were getting too fat? Tell him to stop eating mid-meal when you were at a restaurant? Of course not. You'd tell him to take care of his own fricking business.
It's one thing if you have a friend who asks you to give feedback on when he crosses a line, and it's another thing entirely to start playing the roll of a hall monitor.
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How many times have you tried it and what is your success and failure rate?
I would never try it, because it's dumb.
Would you agree to help manage your friend's calories if he were getting too fat? Tell him to stop eating mid-meal when you were at a restaurant? Of course not. You'd tell him to take care of his own fricking business.
It's one thing if you have a friend who asks you to give feedback on when he crosses a line, and it's another thing entirely to start playing the roll of a hall monitor.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:50 am to Bullfrog
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You actually come off as a pretty miserable fellow with a ton of growing up to do. Splitting hairs that don't need splitting. Good Luck.
The funny thing is he is actually pretty old IIRC, I just don't think he has much real world, first hand experience in dealing with addiction. I could be totally wrong about all of this but its just the impression that I get based on his posts.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:50 am to Bullfrog
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Rock Bottom is your internal barrier or limit and its different from person to person.
Well then it shouldn't be called "Rock Bottom" then, and whomever came up with that term should be punched in the face, because the term implies something completely different from the phenomenon it attempts to describe.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:54 am to Doc Fenton
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Would you agree to help manage your friend's calories if he were getting too fat? Tell him to stop eating mid-meal when you were at a restaurant? Of course not. You'd tell him to take care of his own fricking business.
If a friend asked me to I would 100% help them!
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It's one thing if you have a friend who asks you to give feedback on when he crosses a line, and it's another thing entirely to start playing the roll of a hall monitor.
For the third or fourth time, I would only offer to help if they ASKED! Read bro.....read! I know you aren't stupid based on your posts so you are either drunk at the moment or just totally ignorant on the subject. I am not mad at you either way but come on......reading comprehension and your brain should be able to but 2 and 2 together and allow you to understand what I am saying.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:55 am to Doc Fenton
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Well then it shouldn't be called "Rock Bottom" then, and whomever came up with that term should be punched in the face, because the term implies something completely different from the phenomenon it attempts to describe.
I can agree with that
Posted on 4/26/14 at 4:56 am to lsu480
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For the third or fourth time, I would only offer to help if they ASKED! Read bro.....read!
Excuse me, but where do you see in my posts where I am not getting this point? I never missed it once.
I'm just saying, it's one thing to observe and report, but if you start having to move into the role of an "enforcer", then that just sounds like a very weird idea to me.
This post was edited on 4/26/14 at 4:59 am
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:01 am to Doc Fenton
Fine then, you are just a pretentious a-hole that knows NOTHING about the subject we are discussing. You obviously have no experience in this field and are basing your opinions on what you have heard or read, not real life experience.
People who do that are ignorant and come off as assholes but I guess that is just how you roll. Congrats!
People who do that are ignorant and come off as assholes but I guess that is just how you roll. Congrats!
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