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re: Due to the Heroin epidemic in the white community

Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:30 pm to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:30 pm to
Come on man hook me up with Herron I suck yo d
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:34 pm to
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Because prohibition, of anything, does nothing but make the problem worse. Making pain pills harder to get simply upped their value and pushed more people into heroin to feed their addiction.


I know what you're trying to say, but let me show you some statistics on another view point when it comes to smokers. The tax has gone way up on cigarettes and millions of dollars have been poured into anti-smoking campaigns. I don't think any one particular thing made society stop smoking, but you can't deny that by making them less accessible by making them more expensive while educating the public, has done something. Take a look at the stats.

LINK
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:34 pm to
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Not all addicted to opiates are white

Stupid thread

No one said they were. But it is well documented the drug is increasing in use every year largely by whited.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2522 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:35 pm to
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I agree with you. I think drug addicts are degenerate pieces of shite. But I downvoted you anyway because you are racist. frick you, StrongSafety.


I'm here to keep the balance
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:39 pm to
I understand what you're saying. But we haven't seen nearly as much education on the dangers of opioids. Hell you can't turn the TV on without having 15 truth commercials shoved down your throat.

Maybe if instead of criminalizing it so much we'd focus as a society on treatment and education and rehab, we'd be in a better shape.


I recall the opium wars fought in the 1800s.

It's one hell of a drug.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:39 pm to
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No one said they were. But it is well documented the drug is increasing in use every year largely by whited.

No link?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:42 pm to
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Maybe if instead of criminalizing it so much we'd focus as a society on treatment and education and rehab, we'd be in a better shape.


Yep.
Like the war on poverty has created generations of dependent people, so is the drug war.
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2522 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:45 pm to
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90%
Of First-Time Heroin Users Are White
Researchers have found that prior to the 1980s, whites and nonwhites were equally represented among first-time heroin users. But that’s changed as heroin use has expanded across other parts of the country.

Now, nearly 90 percent of the people who tried heroin for the first time in the past decade were white. And a growing number are middle-class or wealthy.

In a July report, the CDC found “significant increases in heroin use were found in groups with historically low rates of heroin use, including women and people with private insurance and higher incomes. The gaps between men and women, low and higher incomes, and people with Medicaid and private insurance have narrowed in the past decade.”

LINK
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:45 pm to
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Not all addicted to opiates are white

The OP is correct. It's increased mostly in whites. Almost double vs. all other minorities. White folk are more at risk by far. Also, Whites are more likely become addicted to drugs in general, although whites and blacks use any drug about the same. We already know who gets arrested about 10 times ore though.

This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:53 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:53 pm to
So, what would absolve white folks for you two? If we say all drug addicts are bad people and worthless, will you be happy?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:55 pm to
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So, what would absolve white folks for you two? If we say all drug addicts are bad people and worthless, will you be happy?

The OP was talking about personal responsibility and I agree. Also, treat it like crack. And why would the OT say another race is bad and worthless? They already do it for one race.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted by 504ByrdGang
Member since Nov 2013
2522 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:55 pm to
No one said that, there just seems to be a "Its not our fault it's the government fault excuse used here" the same excuse a lot of oter's accused other races of using all the time.
This post was edited on 1/3/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:58 pm to
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No one said that, there just seems to be a "Its not our fault it's the government fault excuse used here" the same excuse a lot of oter's accused other races of using all the time.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/3/16 at 11:59 pm to
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"Its not our fault it's the government fault excuse used here"


White folk don't identify as a "community."
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1357 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:00 am to
You may also notice the timeline for smoking to have gone down by more than 50% took roughly 50 years. During that time, education and statistics weren't nearly as readily available. Today we can quantify things much easier and statistics show that pain meds can not only be harmful to the intended end user, but to family members of those who were prescribed the meds. What's interesting is the amount of opioids the US population consumes compared to the rest of the world
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 12:03 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:01 am to
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White folk don't identify as a "community."


But it's okay for the OT'ers to call out the black "community" all the time for problems?
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33222 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:03 am to
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But it's okay for the OT'ers to call out the black "community" all the time for problems?

Black people call themselves a black community
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:04 am to
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But it's okay for the OT'ers to call out the black "community" all the time for problems?



If black folks wouldn't consider them some monolithic community, it wouldn't happen. I have about as much in common with some junky in Seattle as I do with you.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
135036 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:05 am to
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But it's okay for the OT'ers to call out the black "community" all the time for problems?


Don't we constantly hear about the "black community" from their self appointed leaders?



Personally, I don't see blacks as some monolithic group.

For me, it goes like this. There's the hardworking guys on one side of the levee busting arse to make a living and support their families, and the guys that sit on the stoop of the convenience store and drink and smoke all day on the other side.


Both are black, but they sure as hell aren't equal in my eyes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 12:07 am to
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Both are black, but they sure as hell aren't equal in my eyes


Yep, but they want to be represented as "black."

People are people. They'll stop being judged as a bloc once they stop being referred to as one.
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